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Offline Crybertrance

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Hey guys, does anyone know about any game friendly AV? I tried, AVG, MSE, Trend Micro.... All with no luck.

To be more specific, when I run games withe any of the AV's above running I get ENORMOUS stuttering.... Its all fine after I UNINSTALL them... AVG's "Game Mode" did not help with the stuttering at all. MSE (Im currently using) is pretty good if you disable all the Real Time scanning settings, but it becomes a real chore to enable/disable them each time I run a 3D application...

Any Ideas?

EDIT- running Windows 7 64bit...
« Last Edit: March 23, 2012, 03:22:50 am by Crybertrance »
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Offline Jeff Vader

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I use avast.

EDIT- running Windows 7 64bit...
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Offline headdie

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Using avast myself and it seems to work ok, though it causes merry havoc with Minecraft for some reason.  Also what firewall are you using just the windows one or are you using a 3rd party as well?   I ask because i just switched from Zone Alarm to Comodo (using win XP atm so want the extra peace of mind) and ZA was a resource hog and one of its components was a CPU whore when downloading and some other stuff.
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I've been using Avast for a while as well, no complaints.  It also has an easy-to-enable silent/gaming mode so it wont interrupt you when you're in a game unless for a darn good reason.

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Using avast myself and it seems to work ok, though it causes merry havoc with Minecraft for some reason.

Weird, I've never had any conflict between the two.  What sort of problem is it giving you?  Maybe try updating if it hasn't already (mine updated just this week) or reinstalling.
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Offline Nuke

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i have a fairly modern but modest computer and i use avg with 64 bit win 7 and never have any performance issues in games.
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Offline Fury

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Hey guys, does anyone know about any game friendly AV? I tried, AVG, MSE, Trend Micro.... All with no luck.

To be more specific, when I run games withe any of the AV's above running I get ENORMOUS stuttering.... Its all fine after I UNINSTALL them... AVG's "Game Mode" did not help with the stuttering at all. MSE (Im currently using) is pretty good if you disable all the Real Time scanning settings, but it becomes a real chore to enable/disable them each time I run a 3D application...

Any Ideas?

EDIT- running Windows 7 64bit...
If all mentioned AV's cause heavy stuttering, it sounds like the issue is more likely somewhere else. Possibly another application combined with an AV is the real culprit. Unless you want to go and hunt for the real culprit thoroughly, I'd just reformat and reinstall Windows. Then install minimum amount of applications and drivers, then a game and an AV like MSE. See if stuttering still occurs.

 

Offline LHN91

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Running either Avast or MSE on all my computers here, no issues, except that you might want to disable auto-sandboxing in Avast. However, I've had issues lately with my internal wireless card on my desktop - When it gets warm and there's any network traffic at all everything stutters.

EDIT: Which goes to show that it may not be the AV on yours necessarily.

 

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Using avast myself and it seems to work ok, though it causes merry havoc with Minecraft for some reason.
Weird, I've never had any conflict between the two.  What sort of problem is it giving you?  Maybe try updating if it hasn't already (mine updated just this week) or reinstalling.

not sure but if i disable it the game runs ok if I leave it running I get an error about JVM not being able to initialise
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Offline LHN91

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Using avast myself and it seems to work ok, though it causes merry havoc with Minecraft for some reason.
Weird, I've never had any conflict between the two.  What sort of problem is it giving you?  Maybe try updating if it hasn't already (mine updated just this week) or reinstalling.

not sure but if i disable it the game runs ok if I leave it running I get an error about JVM not being able to initialise

Might Avast be auto-sandoxing Minecraft on your box?

 

Offline BloodEagle

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Comodo Firewall has a 'game mode'.  But it kind of defeats the purpose of a firewall, and you have to remember to turn it back off because there's no indicator for when it's on.

 

Offline jr2

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Update your sound card and video drivers to the latest versions (sometimes old versions have problems like eating a lot of CPU, which then becomes noticeable when you're playing a game, and quitting the AntiVirus may give you that little edge you need to actually play, or perhaps the drivers are misbehaving and causing your AV to use a lot of cycles monitoring them).

Also, you could try GameBooster Free and see if it has an option to automatically quit your AV and re-launch when you stop playing.

 

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Using avast myself and it seems to work ok, though it causes merry havoc with Minecraft for some reason.
Weird, I've never had any conflict between the two.  What sort of problem is it giving you?  Maybe try updating if it hasn't already (mine updated just this week) or reinstalling.

not sure but if i disable it the game runs ok if I leave it running I get an error about JVM not being able to initialise

Might Avast be auto-sandoxing Minecraft on your box?
I did wonder about that but i still have auto sandbox on ask and i have minecraft.exe in the exceptions list so not a clue.  anyway i am waiting for some new PC bits so i am going to wait for them to arrive before looking too seriously into it and WCS:DD is taking up a lot of my time atm ;D
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Offline Crybertrance

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Ohkay...By popular demand, my full system specs...

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System Information report written at: 03/23/12 22:34:25
System Name: DEEPTHOUGHT
[System Summary (C:\Users\Daniel Misquitta\Desktop\1.nfo)]

Item Value
OS Name Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate
Version 6.1.7601 Service Pack 1 Build 7601
Other OS Description Not Available
OS Manufacturer Microsoft Corporation
System Name DEEPTHOUGHT
System Manufacturer Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd.
System Model GA-880GM-UD2H
System Type x64-based PC
Processor AMD Phenom(tm) II X4 945 Processor, 3000 Mhz, 4 Core(s), 4 Logical Processor(s)
BIOS Version/Date Award Software International, Inc. F8, 11-10-2010
SMBIOS Version 2.4
Windows Directory C:\Windows
System Directory C:\Windows\system32
Boot Device \Device\HarddiskVolume1
Locale India
Hardware Abstraction Layer Version = "6.1.7601.17514"
User Name DeepThought\Daniel Misquitta
Time Zone India Standard Time
Installed Physical Memory (RAM) 8.00 GB
Total Physical Memory 8.00 GB
Available Physical Memory 6.43 GB
Total Virtual Memory 16.0 GB
Available Virtual Memory 14.1 GB
Page File Space 8.00 GB
Page File C:\pagefile.sys
Graphics adapter ATI HD 5770 1GB

Now I believe that the AV is causing the stutter because if I uninstall it then everything runs smooth as silk... But cant risk the computer running w/o an AV. So, is there any AV out there that doesn't cause so much pain to my good 'ol games? (even FS un-modded stutters , BADLY)
<21:08:30>   Hartzaden fires a slammer at Cybertrance
<21:09:13>   Crybertrance pops flares, but wonders how Hartzaden acquired aspect lock on a stealth fighter... :\
<21:11:58>   *** The_E joined #bp [email protected]
21:11:58   +++ ChanServ has given op to The_E
<21:12:58>   Hartzaden continues to paint crybertrance and feeding the info to a wing of gunships
<21:14:07>   Crybertrance sends emergency "IM GETING MY ASS KICKED HERE!!!!eleventy NEED HELPZZZZ" to 3rd fleet command
<21:14:50>   Hartzaden jamms the transmission.
<21:14:51>   The_E explodes the sun

 

Offline jr2

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It's not your AV.  There is something configured wrong software-wise -- that rig is perfectly capable of running both your game and AV.  I use MSE, and I've used Avast! and AVG Free; they all work very well with games on systems much, much weaker than yours.

 

Offline samiam

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I don't have antivirus, but I don't have a functioning desktop, either. So it's not really a problem.

 

Offline LHN91

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It definitely shouldn't be the AV with those specs. I'm running an Athlon X4 620 on an Asus AM2+ board with 4GB of RAM and a 4870, and AV has never been an issue. It sounds more like a piece of hardware failing, it's just that AV happens to put that particular part through stress.

 

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If a backup/format/re-install doesn't fix it, I'd then agree and say it's a hardware issue.

 

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No way in hell it's a resource issue with antivirus giving you grief.  Try Avast, especially if you're not happy with the others you've tried.  It's probably more a matter of driver conflict (potentially with your antivirus) than a true hardware problem.  As someone said, update your audio and video drivers.  It doesn't help to make sure your chipset drivers are up to date at the same time.

Out of curiosity, what games in particular are stuttering?
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Offline Nuke

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Update your sound card and video drivers to the latest versions (sometimes old versions have problems like eating a lot of CPU, which then becomes noticeable when you're playing a game, and quitting the AntiVirus may give you that little edge you need to actually play, or perhaps the drivers are misbehaving and causing your AV to use a lot of cycles monitoring them).

Also, you could try GameBooster Free and see if it has an option to automatically quit your AV and re-launch when you stop playing.

fix ****ty software config with more ****ty software! what can possibly go wrong! :lol:

seriously you are making piss poor utility writers cream in their pants. i remember some time ago, a company released a commercial utility which cost actual money that would "boost performance" for any computer. some hackers disassembled the program and found that it worked by placebo effect only, in that the program just displayed a fake scroll bar saying it was doing something, when in fact it did nothing.
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Offline Klaustrophobia

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game booster isn't QUITE useless.  if you have a well-maintained system with minimal background tasks running even when not gaming, it won't really do anything, but it CAN be useful if you've got a lot of bloat and aren't good enough with computers to clean it up in a more permanent manner.  and it has a nice little game defragger that can save you from doing the whole disk when you want to play NAO! 

don't use their "system care" though.  that one IS worthless and can actually be detrimental.
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