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Yes.
The Psamtik is part of the 14th13th Vasudan BG.
(iirc)
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My point was that there are a number of ways that Vasudan fleet structure could differ from Terran fleet structure.

 

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TEI is Tev only. The Zods have new toys (for which the game assets haven't been selected/completed yet, which is why we have nothing to show), but the fleet organization is vastly different and doesn't follow the same tiers as the Tevs and their TEI.
I was just going about the point, that Zods use another organisation thiny, not more or less
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Re: Warships of the TEI (GTD Titan WIP)
The only canonically known vasudan fleet organization in FS2 is the 13th Battlegroup, based in Deneb, of which the Psamtik was the command ship until it met its end.
(source: FS wiki)
So they did, at least at the time of FS2.
Terrans have always just had "fleets", with no mention of battlegroups if i recall correctly.

Given that's all we ever hear of vasudan fleet structure (that they have a 13th battle group)...discarding it entirely saying "Vasudans don't use battlegroups anymore, but now Terrans do!" feels a bit strange.
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Re: Warships of the TEI (GTD Titan WIP)
Bwhuh wuw what is happening

Vasudans still use battle groups

 
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I'm also a bit confused. I think people misunderstood what MatthTheGeek said about the Tev and Vasudan fleet structure. And now some people think that the other people think Vasudan's don't use BattleGroups. Which isn't what was said.

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I was talking mostly about technological tiers, Terrans have quite obvious lines drawn between Capella-era tech and TEI tech, with very little blending between the two.

Zods are more diffuse, and more prone to keep retrofitting and upgrading to modern standards their older designs way past the point Terrans would have decommissioned them (remember how the appolo and valk were already decommissioned by Capella, but Seth and Horus upgrades are still in use by the Zod military in the WiH era, and they even deploy Aten cruisers in militarily contested areas). They do not have an equivalent to TEI because they do not think of fleet organization in term of design generations with an expected operational lifetime, scheduled to be replaced every X years (this sentence is obviously an oversimplification of the way Tevs operate, but I think it carries the point across).

Although this is only relevant to the mainstay Zod fleet. The Medjai is an entirely different story.
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In terms of the Vasudans upgrading old designs rather than creating new ones...didn't Freespace 2 say the upgraded Typhon class was kind of a mess?

 

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Vasudan development in general is quite idiosyncratic. Check out the new techroom.

 
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In terms of the Vasudans upgrading old designs rather than creating new ones...didn't Freespace 2 say the upgraded Typhon class was kind of a mess?

I suspect that "power grid issues" were actually the shenanigans pulled by Kames Admiralty as they did with Mentu.

 

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So a rough analogy to ship development would be:
Terrans make Windows 10
Vasudans keep issuing service packs to Windows 7/8.1?

 

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Terrans would have a fleet comprised of aging win7 machines and newer win10 machines. They've ditched all the winXP machines.

The Zods would have a haphazard fleet composed of very old (they still have late 90s and early 2000s machines running) to very new machines, sporting various flavours of (mostly) recent linux kernels, and try to keep driver compatibility all around. This may seem suboptimal to a Terran, but they still manage to keep all their software running and can gather more processing power than the Terrans can.

And then there's the Medjai server farm hidden somewhere in the corner.

In this metaphor the hardware represents the age of the ship design and the software the tech level used in the ship.
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Is the... Shepsekaff or however that DD is written a Hatshepsut Amaru?
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Terrans would have a fleet comprised of aging win7 machines and newer win10 machines. They've ditched all the winXP machines.

The Zods would have a haphazard fleet composed of very old (they still have late 90s and early 2000s machines running) to very new machines, sporting various flavours of (mostly) recent linux kernels, and try to keep driver compatibility all around. This may seem suboptimal to a Terran, but they still manage to keep all their software running and can gather more processing power than the Terrans can.

And then there's the Medjai server farm hidden somewhere in the corner.

In this metaphor the hardware represents the age of the ship design and the software the tech level used in the ship.

Would Shivans be Apple then?

 
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No, shivans would be pure hax.
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The Shivans would be a supercomputer from the future running every virus in existence.
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