[Aardwolf]

Also, don't forget the effect it had on general public, sending a clear message that CIA and other intel agencies can do something against them. This directly counteracts the terrorists efforts to, well, terrorize the population.

Eh... Up until the "he was a double agent" bit, it sounded like "The CIA is doing a good job". But considering he was a double agent... unless the CIA or Saudi intelligence plans to infiltrate Al Qaeda so hard that every damn person who volunteers to be a suicide bomber is actually a double agent... meh.

[Dragon]

Still, it shows a successful infiltration and intercepting a bomb. That shows people that terrorists can actually be infiltrated. You can't just arrest them and foil their plans, hoping they'll give up someday. This shows that action against terrorists is possible, not just reaction. It also shows it very clearly, unlike blowing up some rocks or a shootout somewhere in the mountains. I don't remember hearing of such successful infiltrations before (doesn't mean there weren't any, but not as publicized). I think it's good for overall morale.

[Unknown Target]

Pretty much all the plots the CIA h as stopped recently have been goaded on by themselves; the last couple attempted bombings were all orchestrated by the CIA (this isn't a conspiracy thing); some easily-influenced civilian is goaded into doing something, given fake "training" and fake bomb equipment, then apprehended later. It's a cycle of fear that gets the agency more funding and keeps the populace at large at "Threat Level Orange".

[NGTM-1R]

Pretty much all the plots the CIA h as stopped recently have been goaded on by themselves; the last couple attempted bombings were all orchestrated by the CIA (this isn't a conspiracy thing); some easily-influenced civilian is goaded into doing something, given fake "training" and fake bomb equipment, then apprehended later. It's a cycle of fear that gets the agency more funding and keeps the populace at large at "Threat Level Orange".

Which is why the bomb actually came from the hands of the head of the Yemeni organization the Saudis are pissed with, and the EU passport, and the instructions...

Care to back that up or are you spouting gibberish?

[General Battuta]

(this isn't a conspiracy thing)

(this isn't a conspiracy thing)

(this isn't a conspiracy thing)

(this isn't a conspiracy thing)

(this isn't a conspiracy thing)

seems legit

[General Battuta]

lol:

    A January 2011 letter from Gadahn to an unknown recipient discusses al-Qaida's media strategy ahead of the tenth anniversary of the Sept. 11 terror attacks, and explains where the group might focus its press efforts.

    "From the professional point of view, they are all on one level—except [Fox News] channel which falls into the abyss as you know, and lacks neutrality too," Gadahn wrote. "I used to think that MSNBC channel may be good and neutral a bit, but is has lately fired two of the most famous journalists—Keith Olberman and Octavia Nasser the Lebanese—because they released some statements that were open for argument."

    Gadahn continued: "In conclusion, we can say that there is no single channel that we could rely on for our messages. [They] may ignore them, and even the channel that broadcast them, probably it would distort them somehow. Or they may ignore the message and conduct a smearing of the individuals, to the end of the list of what you know about their cunning methods."

    He added: "As for Fox News, let her die in her anger."

[MP-Ryan]

Even Al-Qaeda, who probably has most similarity in thought process to the network as anyone, can't take Fox News seriously.  That's hilarious.

[Unknown Target]

Pretty much all the plots the CIA h as stopped recently have been goaded on by themselves; the last couple attempted bombings were all orchestrated by the CIA (this isn't a conspiracy thing); some easily-influenced civilian is goaded into doing something, given fake "training" and fake bomb equipment, then apprehended later. It's a cycle of fear that gets the agency more funding and keeps the populace at large at "Threat Level Orange".

Which is why the bomb actually came from the hands of the head of the Yemeni organization the Saudis are pissed with, and the EU passport, and the instructions...

Care to back that up or are you spouting gibberish?

I'm not talking about this incident. I'm specifically thinking of the thwarted White House bombing from a few weeks back.

EDIT: Can't find the link for all this that I saw on Reddit. *Shrugs* Oh well.

[NGTM-1R]

I'm not talking about this incident. I'm specifically thinking of the thwarted White House bombing from a few weeks back.

Which apparently wasn't picked up by the news here, or by any other news source I have access to, so the whole idea behind your statement doesn't work.

[Unknown Target]

Well maybe my memory's bad. I can't find any reference to the White House bomb plot at all anyway, all the results are saturated with this Yemeni one. Like, literally I can't find any mention of it because all results for "white house bomber" or "white house bomb plot" redirect to this. :\

[redsniper]

Reddit.

Don't go to Reddit.

[General Battuta]

Reddit.

Don't go to Reddit.

[Unknown Target]

Here we go, a friend of mine found the article I was talking about;

http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120430/02112518698/nytimes-realizes-that-fbi-keeps-celebrating-breaking-up-its-own-terrorist-plots.shtml

The United States has been narrowly saved from lethal terrorist plots in recent years - or so it has seemed. A would-be suicide bomber was intercepted on his way to the Capitol; a scheme to bomb synagogues and shoot Stinger missiles at military aircraft was developed by men in Newburgh, N.Y.; and a fanciful idea to fly explosive-laden model planes into the Pentagon and the Capitol was hatched in Massachusetts.

But all these dramas were facilitated by the F.B.I., whose undercover agents and informers posed as terrorists offering a dummy missile, fake C-4 explosives, a disarmed suicide vest and rudimentary training. Suspects naïvely played their parts until they were arrested.

[Unknown Target]

*Bump* Here's another article from the Rolling Stone;

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/blogs/national-affairs/how-fbi-entrapment-is-inventing-terrorists-and-letting-bad-guys-off-the-hook-20120515

The guy who convinced the plotters to blow up a big bridge, led them to the arms merchant, and drove the team to the bomb site was an FBI informant. The merchant was an FBI agent. The bomb, of course, was a dud. And the arrest was part of a pattern of entrapment by federal law enforcement since September 11, 2001, not of terrorist suspects, but of young men federal agents have had to talk into embracing violence in the first place. One of the Cleveland arrestees, Connor Stevens, complained to his sister of feeling "very pressured" by the guy who turned out to be an informant and was recorded in 2011 rejecting property destruction: "We're in it for the long haul and those kind of tactics just don't cut it," he said. "And it's actually harder to be non-violent than it is to do stuff like that." Though when Cleveland's NEWS Channel 5  broadcast that footage, they headlined it "Accused Bomb Plot Suspect Caught on Camera Talking Violence."

Read more: http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/blogs/national-affairs/how-fbi-entrapment-is-inventing-terrorists-and-letting-bad-guys-off-the-hook-20120515#ixzz1v4Cz8o2K

[Bobboau]

you know this has the effect of sowing fear in the minds of would be plotters that their trusted bomb supplier could be a double agent.

[Aardwolf]

*Bump* Here's another article from the Rolling Stone;

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/blogs/national-affairs/how-fbi-entrapment-is-inventing-terrorists-and-letting-bad-guys-off-the-hook-20120515

The guy who convinced the plotters to blow up a big bridge, led them to the arms merchant, and drove the team to the bomb site was an FBI informant. The merchant was an FBI agent. The bomb, of course, was a dud. And the arrest was part of a pattern of entrapment by federal law enforcement since September 11, 2001, not of terrorist suspects, but of young men federal agents have had to talk into embracing violence in the first place. One of the Cleveland arrestees, Connor Stevens, complained to his sister of feeling "very pressured" by the guy who turned out to be an informant and was recorded in 2011 rejecting property destruction: "We're in it for the long haul and those kind of tactics just don't cut it," he said. "And it's actually harder to be non-violent than it is to do stuff like that." Though when Cleveland's NEWS Channel 5  broadcast that footage, they headlined it "Accused Bomb Plot Suspect Caught on Camera Talking Violence."

Read more: http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/blogs/national-affairs/how-fbi-entrapment-is-inventing-terrorists-and-letting-bad-guys-off-the-hook-20120515#ixzz1v4Cz8o2K

Oh yeah, I saw this on teh Anon news tweet place.

[Klaustrophobia]

Oh yeah, I saw this on teh Anon news tweet place.

Because nothing validates an idea more than having Anonymous agree with it.

[General Battuta]

Oh yeah, I saw this on teh Anon news tweet place.

Because nothing validates an idea more than having Anonymous agree with it.

It doesn't automatically invalidate it, either