[mandobardanjusik]

ok so I had this crazy idea this evening, that what would happen if 2 mysterious factionw appeared out of nowwhere at the hind end of 1942 and declared earth a temporary neutral research planet, gave both the aaxis and the allies advanced space tech, carved out the solar system between them and gave them 6 months to intergrate this tech into their fighters and other aircraft, and some seacraft. and then the battle for the solar system begins. so I decided to feed this fanasty of mine as a pet project. I am currently letting fallout10mm put together a basic shipset for me, and then I will start putting together WW2 aircraft that have been updated and modified with advanced tech and engines. there will be plenty of favs, and quite a few that never got to see the skies, like the german jet flying wing, and the XP-67 moonbat. hope to have some of my first concepts up soon, and if other modelers want to chip in after I set a style standard, I would be glad if you did, and hopefully we can get an interesting mini-mod out of this idea of mine

[Nuke]

SPACE NAZIS!!!!!

[mandobardanjusik]

yes, I was actualy thinking of a mission called: rise of the space riech. also the russians get pluto

and oh yes, the german carrier craft will proably be space dirigibles

[General Battuta]

Wasn't this a Harry Turtledove book

[mandobardanjusik]

coulda been never heard of him. I just came up with the idea after playing some SA:DX today

[Legate Damar]

Odd... but interesting

[jr2]

Don't forget the stealthy flying-wing bomber that we scrapped 'cause "meh, who needs stealth??"

EDIT: http://www.century-of-flight.net/Aviation%20history/flying%20wings/Northrop%20bombers.htm

[mandobardanjusik]

yes the grumman flying wing is a possible option, but first I would like to announce the first 2 aircraft I hope to attempt at tomoorow to start attempting a standard, though these arent nesseceraliy what you could call 'normal' conversions.
first allied craft is the XP-67 Moonbat  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McDonnell_XP-67

and the first axis is the HO/GO-229 a fighter/bomber flying wing http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horten_Ho_229  by the way, if the appearance doesnt strike fear into you the armenant will, it carrys 4 30mm machine guns, 2 500 pound space bombs, and rockets
yes I know both were prototypes that never saw full service, however they are perfect for the mod

so here is another ship I may start on tomorrow that did see service in the war, though the 2 later variants I also plan to do did not, the HE-162   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heinkel_He_162

so fallout is still working on the main unit list but to sait your curioustity here is a little info: each faction will have at least one carrier type, wheter it be converted ship or other vehicle types, like an asteroid base, but the plan is to have the Germans have giant space dirigibles.

[Trivial Psychic]

You should check out THIS website, if you're looking for odd or off-the-wall German designs.

[headdie]

From Trivial Psychic's link



This thing is jarring just to look at, it is just wrong.

[NGTM-1R]

There is insufficient flying pancake in this thread.

[lostllama]

Reminds me a little of the Dawn of Victory mod for Sins (which was inspired by Harry Turtledove's work).

Speaking of dirigibles here are a few I found available on some model websites: http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php?topic=72062.msg1541452#msg1541452 - if you're interested.

You might be interested in some of the assets from here too:
A few models: http://www.oxygino.com/site/?cat=49
Air force roundels/insignia: http://www.oxygino.com/site/?p=320
Camo schemes (Photoshop swatch format; but I doubt you'd need camouflage in space): http://www.oxygino.com/site/?cat=56
All these assets are free, but it would probably be best to ask for the artist's permission if you're intending to utilize any of them for your mod.

EDIT: Some pics from the above site, just because I think they are kind of cool.

http://www.oxygino.com/site/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/oxygino_wallpaper_mep1112.jpg
http://www.oxygino.com/site/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/oxygino_wallpaper_lip13.jpg
http://www.oxygino.com/site/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/oxygino_im__0037_vtol-05.jpg
http://www.oxygino.com/site/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/oxygino_im__0036_vtol-06.jpg

[mandobardanjusik]

thanks for the links, but the plan is to use assets made specificly for the mod wheter by team members or freelancers. also your links are some food for thought, but we are currently sticking only with aircraft that had at least 1 prototype made, and we already have plenty to make, hopefully we will have a basic shipset up this weekend. and I may try at a production prop conversion, like perhaps the P-38, or the thunderbolt/jug

[mandobardanjusik]

ok like I said I decided to begin on something today, so I decided towards making a model of the aircraft that inpired me to this in the first place the Tornado mk2 from sonic adventure. so here are some pics of the mesh I threw together this morning(note that is not a texture, just some test colors)
ref
my version:   ugh I stink at pic takin

[Aesaar]

Wasn't this a Harry Turtledove book

Only if the aliens base their invasion off of thousand year old intel.

[Deadly in a Shadow]

What about Space Zeppelins spamming Nazi-Saucers?

[jr2]

Northrop Flying Wing:
Prop:



Jet:



http://www.century-of-flight.net/new%20site/frames/horten%20frame.htm















http://weburbanist.com/2009/04/26/futuristic-flying-brilliant-prototype-concept-airplanes/











Flying Reactor:



Canada's flying saucer:

[mandobardanjusik]

thanks for the feedback, we will hopefully post a preliminary shipset tonight, and a few of those will be used, and thanks some of those shots may help as aids. plan to have something new done too

[Fallout10mm]

Ship list:
**Please Note this is a suggested list and is not complete**

German:
Fighters:  Focke-Wulf Fw 190, Heinkel He 112 Blohm & Voss BV P.215, Focke wolf FW super lorian
Heavy Fighter/Attackers:  Stuka, Messerschmitt Me 410, Heinkel He 162, Horten Ho 229
Bombers: Horten Ho XVIII A, Junkers Ju 88, Heinkel He 111 Junkers Ju 388, Henschel Hs 129
Capital Ships:

Japanese:
Fighters:  Kawasaki Ki-61, Mitsubishi A6M Zero, Nakajima Ki-44
Heavy Fighters/Attackers: Aichi D3A, Kawasaki Ki-45, Yokosuka D4Y
Bombers: Mitsubishi Ki-21, Mitsubishi G4M, Nakajima Ki-49
Capital Ships:

Italian:
Fighters:  Reggiane Re.2005, Macchi C.202, Fiat G.50
Heavy Fighters/Attackers: Breda Ba.88, IMAM Ro.57 Reggiane Re.2001
Bombers: CANT Z.1007, CANT Z.1018, Caproni Ca.310
Capital Ships:

American:
Fighters:  P51-mustang, Vought F4U Corsair, Curtiss P-40 Warhawk, Bell XP-83, North American F-82 Twin Mustang, McDonnell XP-67, Republic P-47 Thunderbolt
Heavy Fighters/Attackers: Northrop P-61 Black Widow, P38-Lighting, Curtiss SB2C Helldiver, Northrop XP-79
Bombers: Douglas A-26 Invader, North American B-25 Mitchell, Beechcraft XA-38 Grizzly, Boeing B-29 Superfortress, Boeing B-17 Flying Fortress
Capital Ships:


British:
Fighters:  Supermarine Spitfire, Hawker Hurricane, Gloster Gladiator, Curtiss P-36 Hawk
Heavy Fighters/Attackers: de Havilland Vampire, Fairey Barracuda, P-38 Lightning, gloster metoer
Bombers: Bristol Blenheim, de Havilland Mosquito, Avro Lancaster
Capital Ships:

Russian:
Fighters:  Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-3, Bell P-63 Kingcobra, Yakovlev Yak-3
Heavy Fighters/Attackers: Ilyushin Il-2, Ilyushin Il-10, A-20
Bombers: Tupolev SB, Petlyakov Pe-8, Petlyakov Pe-2
Capital Ships:

[mandobardanjusik]

thanks for putting that together fallout, good job. ok so first off, to you freelancers out there, most of these are open to you guys, as there is plenty to make, however first I would like to make something of a baseline, but how that will turn out is another matter. also, many of the heavy bombers listed like the B-17, the avro lancaster, and B-24, will be in fact acting more like corvettes in starwars, essentialy more of a light capital ship than true bomber, as there will be only a handful of large targets, and the closest to a land target you will proably get are asteroid bases.

ok so for the handful of capital ship types there will be, there will proably be a couple of converted battleships, subs, and dirigibles. now each faction has at least one type of carrier, so here is the rudimentry listing
Allies: US: aircraft carrier, navy blimp; British: aircraft carrier; Russian: TBD, possibly a comet, or moving asteroid base
Axis: Germany: mega-dirigibles; Japan: aircraft carrier, super-sub with small complement;
Italy: dont know what they actualy have
(also note actual ships and classes will be reseached at a later date)
(also note, as of now fighters/bombers and a carrier for each faction are priotity, other ships will be determined later)

now one more note, is what I currently have as the solar system assignments(note, if someone wants to actualy make a map with this stuff on it feel free)
US: Mars and its moons(note one has been turned into a formidable starbase, known as wake island, the other is Pearl harbor), venus
Britan: saturn
Russia: Pluto and its moons
Germany: Nazia(neptune), THE moon
german occupied countries: jupiter's moons
Italy: Uranus
Japan: mercury,
Japan-occupied pacific: asteroid belt(note, several dozen different asteroid bases have been established amoung the belt and is a formidable obstacle)
France(occupied, own forces have been destroyed by this moment): Jupiter

note: earth is a off-limits production planet, as stated by the mysterious forces that have brought the hyperdrive, however the final battle WILL take place between it and the moon