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Offline Denirio

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Freespace 2 Install Problems PLEASE HELP
So I'm a huge fan of Freespace 2, I've been playing since the day it was released and I've just re-earthed it after all these years to play it again. I've got the latest 27inch iMac with Windows 7 running in Parallels and 6GB of Ram dedicated to the Mac side and another 6 dedicated to Windows. I have not configured boot camp. Whenever I launch, after the opening cutscene I get this incredibly fast and irritating flickering and distortion. After spending nearly 6 hours combing the forums I eventually found and downloaded the 1.2 patch which sort of fixed the problem, the mouse cursor has stopped flickering but the rest of the screen continues. Something I must stress is that Gameplay is completely impossible.

I've been wanting to play Blue Planet for months now but again, I have to install this, that and the other to get this program to work so that this one can work and  it all just falls apart.
I am NOT Tech - savvy like you chaps, please use small words in your replies. I've never modded anything before.

Also a numbered guide on how to install Age of Aquaries would be great, un-zipping folders is about the limit of my knowledge.

Thankyou for your time, I'd love to play Freespace 2 again.

 

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Re: Freespace 2 Install Problems PLEASE HELP
First thought: if you're running FS2 retail in Windows using Parallels, run FreeSpace Open in Mac OS X instead. Take a look at these instructions. We can help you if you run into problems with following the instructions.

It would speed things up if you could copy your existing FS2 installation in Parallels to your Applications folder in OS X, but I'm not sure offhand how to do that, since I don't have any experience with Parallels. You might be able to do it by dragging your FS2 folder in Windows while you're running Parallels to your Applications folder in OS X, but I really don't know for sure.

EDIT: A few clarifications.

 

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Re: Freespace 2 Install Problems PLEASE HELP
One thing you should do is try and follow the instructions presented here: http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php?topic=79546.0

Those will help you to set up the MacOS-Native executables for FSO, which means that you don't have to go through parallels to enjoy FSO (also, this is a necessary prerequisite for any mod).

As for BP, there are detailed install instructions here: http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php?topic=68213.0

If you have further questions, feel free to hop onto IRC to ask for help there, there's usually a few knowledgeable people around who can answer questions.
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Re: Freespace 2 Install Problems PLEASE HELP
Thanks guys, but i've run into trouble again. I've installed FS2 on my iMac and I'm on step 4 but its asking me to do something I don't understand.
It asks to delete and move cutscenes which I can't view. In the FS2 folder all I have is the application (which doesn't work at all by the way only audio and the screen is all really funky with coloured lines running across it)
So all I have is the launch application, the two things I had to download as part of the instructions, option to uninstall and a folder called documents which doesn't have what I'm looking for.

Just a little more help please, nearly there

 

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Re: Freespace 2 Install Problems PLEASE HELP
*sigh*
I thought I was done but it still isn't working. This is really beginning to frustrate me. I just want to play the game I shouldn't have to download multiple applications and updates just to play Freespace.
Everytime I launch the application I get a black screen. Thats it. Can someone please give me detailed ideas on how to fix this please? Remember, small words I'm not tech savvy.

I'm nearly tempted just to ask for someone to do it all for me and I'll buy it off em'

 

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Re: Freespace 2 Install Problems PLEASE HELP
Why don't you try and join the #hard-light IRC channel (link is in my sig)? It should be easier for someone to talk you through the installation procedure there.
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Re: Freespace 2 Install Problems PLEASE HELP
This IRC log's a bit long, but it might help you out a little. I've coloured the bits of text that might be more helpful.


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[8:02pm] • Androgeos wonders how big his download was...
[8:05pm] Androgeos: His .vp files are not in that folder. Did he download a Windows install? If he did, he'll need to run it through either CrossOver or a virtual machine to get the .vp files out; after that, he must locate them and copy them into /Freespace 2
[8:05pm] The_E|Mibbit: He said he started with a GoG installer
[8:06pm] The_E|Mibbit: So there's no reason to assume he didn't get those files
[8:06pm] Androgeos: If the installer completed successfully, then they are somewhere on his hard drive.
[8:11pm] Androgeos: If he ran the installer through Parallels, the .vp files should be within the virtual machine's folders. Where those are, I don't know, because I've never used a virtual machine before (all my Windows PCs had their OSes pre-installed and we were never given an actual installation CD/DVD).

[8:12pm] Androgeos: The way I got FS2_Open running on a Mac was to copy the .vp files from an existing Windows installation (i.e. my IBM, which died last year) into a thumbdrive, then paste them into my Mac.
[8:12pm] Aoyagi joined the chat room.
[8:14pm] Androgeos: All I really needed were the .vp files, the OS X Launcher and an FS2_Open build. Creating the folders was unnecessary as the release builds did that automatically in {USERNAME}/Library/FS2_Open on firstrun and whenever a mod was run for the first time.
[8:15pm] battuta joined the chat room.
[8:15pm] battuta was promoted to operator by ChanServ.
[8:17pm] Androgeos: In short, he needs to know how he installed FS2. Did he run it on a virtual machine like Parallels or on an emulator like CrossOver? The next thing he needs to know is where the installed files ended up in.
[8:17pm] battuta: did that guy get help?
[8:18pm] Androgeos: I came in late, so I couldn't help much.
[8:18pm] Androgeos: At any rate, I doubt I could help him much even if I had time because I don't know where his .vp files are.
[8:19pm] Androgeos: I managed to show him an image of my FS2 folder's file structure. That was the most I could do.
[8:19pm] Aoyagi: Teamviewer for the win.
[8:20pm] Aoyagi: Or any alternative OSX might have.
[8:20pm] Androgeos: Eh?
[8:20pm] Aoyagi: remote desktop
[8:21pm] Androgeos: Maybe
[8:22pm] Androgeos: His only problem, I think, is that he can't find his .vp files, and unless I can look inside his Mac, I cannot help him much because I got mine running the old-fashioned way.
[8:23pm] Aoyagi: Steam-powered?
[8:23pm] Androgeos: No. Thumbdrive into a PC install and copied the .vp files over.
[8:23pm] Aoyagi: Oh, you mean running your FS2 copy.
[8:23pm] Androgeos: Yeah
[8:24pm] Androgeos: The oldest and one of the most reliable ways of getting FS2_Open running on a Mac.
[8:26pm] Androgeos: I shall Google around for the file structure location of Parallels. I might find something.
[8:26pm] Aoyagi: Why?
[8:26pm] Aoyagi: He said he installed it into the Mac system, not virtual windows.
[8:27pm] Aoyagi: Unless you mean getting the installation from Parallels to OSX :D
[8:27pm] Androgeos: I was reading this part of his post: "I've got the latest 27inch iMac with Windows 7 running in Parallels"
[8:28pm] Aoyagi: "Denirionope, I bought it off GOG and i'm using the thread from the first reply to install it manually onto Mac"
[8:28pm] Qent joined the chat room.
[8:29pm] Androgeos: What's bothering me is this page: http://download.parallels.com/desktop/v4/docs/en/Parallels_Desktop_Users_Guide/22943.htm
[8:29pm] Androgeos: I am SERIOUSLY hoping that they didn't compile an entire OS into a .hdd file...
[8:30pm] Aoyagi: My boss uses Parallels and the whole virtual machine is on a single file, if I recall correctly.

[8:30pm] Aoyagi: If that's what you mean...
[8:31pm] Aoyagi: But you can copy files inside if you turn it on.
[8:31pm] Aoyagi: Much like VMware.
[8:31pm] Androgeos: Hmm ... maybe he can do that.
[8:32pm] Androgeos: Run Parallels, find the folder where he installed FS2 and copy the .vp files out.
[8:32pm] Androgeos: If he can do that, he should be okay.

[8:34pm] Androgeos: I've never used wxLauncher (OS X Launcher still works, so I'm not changing it), but it should read the .vp files in the same manner as OS X Launcher, which is to dump all the .vp files, the launcher and the FS2_Open build into the root folder.
« Last Edit: May 24, 2012, 08:57:09 am by Androgeos Exeunt »
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Re: Freespace 2 Install Problems PLEASE HELP
I'll take a closer look at this tonight, or in around 8-12 hours, since I need to leave in a few minutes to get on a plane.

 

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Re: Freespace 2 Install Problems PLEASE HELP
Guys, there is nothing more confusing than having 400 people trying to tell you how to install your game and then declaring that 'you might be screwed'. This should be simple.

Please let The_E handle it one on one with Denirio.

e: also jg18 you're cool so i guess two on one
« Last Edit: May 24, 2012, 08:52:04 am by General Battuta »

 

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Re: Freespace 2 Install Problems PLEASE HELP
Meh, I thought I should try helping out since The E ... err, suggested it on IRC...? :nervous:

Well, I deleted the offending line from the previous post, just to be safe.
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Re: Freespace 2 Install Problems PLEASE HELP
Guys, there is nothing more confusing than having 400 people trying to tell you how to install your game and then declaring that 'you might be screwed'. This should be simple.

Please let The_E handle it one on one with Denirio.

e: also jg18 you're cool so i guess two on one
Thanks, Battuta. :) And you're not screwed, Denirio, we just need to figure out what's going on.

*sigh*
I thought I was done but it still isn't working. This is really beginning to frustrate me. I just want to play the game I shouldn't have to download multiple applications and updates just to play Freespace.
Everytime I launch the application I get a black screen. Thats it. Can someone please give me detailed ideas on how to fix this please? Remember, small words I'm not tech savvy.
Sorry that things are frustrating.

As for the applications you have to download, unfortunately, there's no way to avoid them. You need the FreeSpace Open engine (FS2_Open-Inferno 3.6.12.app and FS2_Open-Inferno 3.6.12 (debug).app) to play, the launcher to set things up, and CrossOver Games to install FreeSpace 2 retail (which is a Windows game) if you don't have access to Windows. There's probably a way to copy FS2 from your copy in Windows running in Parallels, but if you were able to install FS2 using CrossOver Games and copy it from there, then it's not important at this point. You only need the 1.2 patch of FS2 if and when you want to play multiplayer.


As for the black screen, here are some thoughts:

When you look at your FreeSpace2 folder in OS X's Finder, does it look something like this?



The MediaVPs_3612 folder is only there if you downloaded the MediaVPs (step 6 of the instructions), so you can ignore it if you don't have it. I highly recommend getting the MediaVPs at some point, though, since they make a huge improvement to the graphics, and they're required for playing Blue Planet.

You can also ignore the players folder if you don't have it.

The wxlauncher.app doesn't have to be in your FreeSpace2 folder. It can be in your Applications folder or anywhere else.

It's okay if you have extra files and folders that aren't in the screenshot, as long as you did Step 4 from the instructions, which was moving the cutscenes (which are the .mve files) from the data2 and data3 folders in your FreeSpace2 folder to the movies folder in FreeSpace2/data/, and then deleting the data2 and data3 folders and any files left in them, since you don't need the other files in those two folders.

You should have a total of 10 .mve files in the movies folder: bastion, colossus, endpart1, endprt2a, endprt2b, intro, mono1, mono2, mono3, and mono4. I can make screenshots of step 4 later if you would like me to.

Also, your copy of FS2 is from GOG.com, right? It's not an install from retail CDs?

The most important part is that you have all 9 .vp files that are in the screenshot. They're the FS2 retail data (graphics, music, missions, and so on) and all of them are required to play. You also need to have the 3.6.12 version of FreeSpace Open (which is also called FSO or FS2_Open) in your FreeSpace2 folder, like in the screenshot.



Finally, please create a debug log (revising the official instructions to be more OS X-specific):

(1) In wxLauncher's basic settings page, under "FS2 Open Executable", choose the option that says "Debug" instead of "Release".

(2) In the list of checkboxes in wxLauncher's advanced settings page, scroll down to the "Dev Tool" category, then check the box for "Run in window".

(3) Click on the "Play" button in the lower-right.

(4) After you reach the black screen and quit FS2, open OS X Finder (click on the icon in the lower left corner of the Dock) and go to your Library folder. This folder is hidden in Lion, so to temporarily unhide it, hold down the Option key while clicking on the Go menu at the top of the screen, then click on the Library option in the menu. (Sorry it's a pain, but it's Apple's doing, not ours.)

(5) Then find the FS2_Open folder and then the data folder within it. The debug log is called fs2_open.log.

(6) Click on the debug log file and drag it to your Desktop. That will make the file easier to find, since then it won't be in your hidden Library folder.

(7) Now attach the log file to your next post in this thread: while you're writing your next post, click on the "Attachments and other options" text that appears just below the box where you write your post.

(8) Then click on "Browse...", then find the copy of fs2_open.log in your Desktop, and click on Open.

If you accidentally choose the wrong file, you can clear it by clicking on "Clean Attachment", which is to the right of the Browse... button. Nothing will actually get attached to your post until you click on the "Post" button.

Let us know how all of that goes.

 

Offline Denirio

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Re: Freespace 2 Install Problems PLEASE HELP
All fixed on the parallels side guys, thanks for your help.
Turned out half of my files were saved in different folder during the install, a quick drag and drop fixed that.

While everyone's still here though, when I'm launching Freespace open, Age of Aquaries I get this message:
http://imagebin.org/214175
And then once I try to play my first mission the game crashes and I get this message:
http://imagebin.org/214173

As usual prompt help would be awesome

 

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Re: Freespace 2 Install Problems PLEASE HELP
Please read the BP install instructions. Blue Planet REQUIRES the MediaVPs to be installed, else you will be getting errors.
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Re: Freespace 2 Install Problems PLEASE HELP
Yep, you'll need the mediavps located in your FreeSpace 2 folder in a folder called mediavps_3612.

And be careful not to rename any folders.

 

Offline Denirio

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Re: Freespace 2 Install Problems PLEASE HELP
I've downloaded all of the updates for the MediaVPs but Blue Planet: War in Heaven crashes on startup, I get this error message:
http://imagebin.org/214558

And this one:

bp2-wep.tbm(line 4957:
Error: Required token = [#End] or [$Name:], found [$LaunchSnd:                              92         ]
in weapon: Trebuchet#Aegis
.

kernel32.dll! WaitForSingleObject + 18 bytes
fs2_open_3_6_12r_INF.exe! <no symbol>
fs2_open_3_6_12r_INF.exe! <no symbol>
fs2_open_3_6_12r_INF.exe! <no symbol>
<no module>! <no symbol>
<no module>! <no symbol>
<no module>! <no symbol>
<no module>! <no symbol>
<no module>! <no symbol>
<no module>! <no symbol>
<no module>! <no symbol>
fs2_open_3_6_12r_INF.exe! <no symbol>
<no module>! <no symbol>
<no module>! <no symbol>
<no module>! <no symbol>

 

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Re: Freespace 2 Install Problems PLEASE HELP
run a debug build and post the log file.

EDIT: In my sig, under "FSO FAQ", then use CTRL+F and search for
Code: [Select]
We want your fs2_open.log!
EDIT2: Or just
Code: [Select]
log!

 

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Re: Freespace 2 Install Problems PLEASE HELP
The latest BP2 is built to run on 3.6.14 builds. Get RC6 here: http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php?topic=80754.0

Also,

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Offline Denirio

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Re: Freespace 2 Install Problems PLEASE HELP
Still not working fellas, were do I put the files?

 

Offline Denirio

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Re: Freespace 2 Install Problems PLEASE HELP
The Game keeps crashing as well, no matter what launcher I use

 

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Re: Freespace 2 Install Problems PLEASE HELP
Please follow these instructions.
If I'm just aching this can't go on
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