[The Claw]

Well, just for a laugh I decided to make a realism mod for Freespace (I'd been watching B5 all night, if you were wondering  )
 The general idea is that you can destroy any ship in one or two shots, you have a very limited number of missiles that are, however, powerful enough to waste a fighter in one hit. Also, you have no shields.
 Suprisingly, I've found it highly playable and kinda addictive. I've only modified two weapons and a fighter so far, I was just wondering what interest there would be in this mod.

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Chickens? Where? Where BOOM!!
 Folks... we have a very special guest for you tonight... I would likje to introduce:
 MR HORN :-Linkin Park
 Project coordinator of Alternate Reality: The Chickens Cometh and A... errr... team member of The Perfect Storm.

[Snipes]

Hell, I'd give it a whack... If it is as fun as you say  

[Nico]

Yeah, I tend to make my mods this way. I prefer fast and furious dogfights to long and fastidious gun hammering. To make it even more realist and fun (and hard), increase the damping a little (but no more than 1.0 ...). And to take sushi's words: use the velocity mod  
And after that: post it at hlp coz I'm too lazy to do it  


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venom2506
Member of the Robotech mod for FS2

and of Hidden Terror, the Shivan campaign

[Setekh]

This is cool... there's Sandwich's Capship Turret Mod, the Velocity Mod, JakeLogan & Carl's effects Mods - this is sweet.  

[Shrike]

On the subject of the turrets, did you guys ever try using my arsenal turrets?  They improved the defenses on ships without significantly unbalancing the game.

[The Claw]

 

Originally posted by venom2506:
Yeah, I tend to make my mods this way. I prefer fast and furious dogfights to long and fastidious gun hammering. To make it even more realist and fun (and hard), increase the damping a little (but no more than 1.0 ...). And to take sushi's words: use the velocity mod  
And after that: post it at hlp coz I'm too lazy to do it  

 I would increase the dampening, but once you get a missile locked on, you need as much maneuverability as you can get, because the one missile has the ability to waste you. This is also why I'm leaving countermeasure count untouched.
 I'm not sure what I'm gonna do about the guns though, because i have editted the test ship to only have two gun points- this is because it increases the difficulty of a kill ( if you get both shots on target, it'll destroy the enemy, but if you only get one it'll damage it to about 30%).
 I'm also playing around with the idea of increasing the subsystem damage.
 A small demo will be up on my server soon, and after I upload it i'll post the link.

[CptWhite]

If you want a mod balanced on realism/playability  you know where to come  

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[Snipes]

Sandwich's capship turret upgrade is killer. I installed it into the tables for twilight, and that third mission with the hecate, sobek, hatshepsut, and deimos, man was that a beautiful firefight...  

[The Claw]

Ok, here's just a demo, like I said, one ship, two weapons- 3 if you include the upgraded capship lasers- and a mission. Enjoy  
Grab it here
 And for those who don't like editting the .tbl files, here are the full ones.


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Chickens? Where? Where BOOM!!
 Folks... we have a very special guest for you tonight... I would likje to introduce:
 MR HORN :-Linkin Park
 Project coordinator of Alternate Reality: The Chickens Cometh and A... errr... team member of The Perfect Storm.

[Raven2001]

Hah! Now we're talking! It's really awesome!!

[Nico]

About those missiles and dampening, well, I just divided the ROT by 2... you needed skills to avoid them, but it was still possible. And I'm insane, but I found quite fun dogfighting with this sliding ships in a very small asteroid field with 3x255 asteroids hehe  

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venom2506
Member of the Robotech mod for FS2

and of Hidden Terror, the Shivan campaign

[The Claw]

Well, I'm gonna use it in one of my upcoming mods, but I was considering actually modifying all the ships in FS2.
 Only problem would be that bombers would be _way_ too easy to kill, and the damage they'd do would be equivalent to a fighter...


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Chickens? Where? Where BOOM!!
 Folks... we have a very special guest for you tonight... I would likje to introduce:
 MR HORN :-Linkin Park
 Project coordinator of Alternate Reality: The Chickens Cometh and A... errr... team member of The Perfect Storm.

[Nico]

well, for bombers, allowing them to carry much powerfull weapons to fight against capships, plus really efficient turrets (sort of machine gun laser maybe?) could balance the thing. Otherwise we can suppose that a bomber is big enough to carry a weak shield that can deflect at least a dozen of shots or two missiles?

[Sandwich]

 

Originally posted by Shrike:
On the subject of the turrets, did you guys ever try using my arsenal turrets?  They improved the defenses on ships without significantly unbalancing the game.

Elaborate, please. Which turrets did you change, etc?   I can use the exact same description for my MOD...

The ones I changed here are solely the laser turrets and the fusion mortar...



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"Just becase you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you."
"To err is human; to really screw up you need a computer."
Creator of the Sandvich Bar

[Shrike]

All the basic turrets.  Increased shot speed and ROF but reduced damage, so you have to be more careful or you'll be taking additional hits.

[Carl]

 

Originally posted by Setekh:
This is cool... there's Sandwich's Capship Turret Mod, the Velocity Mod, JakeLogan & Carl's effects Mods - this is sweet.  

my FX mod is 5X better than Jake's cause it's got missle trails and heavily improved glows and suns was done in photoshop. Jake agrees with me btw so don't say "oh well you're being mean, Mr. shivan"

[Sushi]

Wow, someone mentioned my mod before I did.  

I like the sound of this- I'll download it and check it out later(when I have time.) The only question I have is this: Why is this the "Realism" mod? How does this increase realism? Not trying to rain on the parade (I like the idea out too- harder to hit targets but easier to kill them when you do) but the title "Realism" mod seems a bit misplaced.

Having said that, of course, I have no real alternate suggestions- typical Critic behaviour.  

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Sushi- the OTHER white meat!

Accelerate your game-Velocity Mod
Sushi's Freespace Zone-Future home of loads of cool stuff.

[Styxx]

How many missiles can a (real) fighter take and survive today? How many gun hits? That's why it's called the Realism Mod, one might guess...

[The Claw]

Yup, that'd be it. I'm figuring that to make a fighter withstand more than one shot from a gun, it would have to reduce maneuverability significantly.
 After I finish Alternate Reality though, I will be creating and releasing a mod detailing human kinds first steps into space (not in the FS universe). In that I will be using the same kind of balance, at least at the start. Heavy fighters will be able to take more than one hit. It'll be a TC, BTW  
 But first, it's time for the chickens... when I get round to finishing the last 3 ships.

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Chickens? Where? Where BOOM!!
 Folks... we have a very special guest for you tonight... I would likje to introduce:
 MR HORN :-Linkin Park
 Project coordinator of Alternate Reality: The Chickens Cometh and A... errr... team member of The Perfect Storm.

[Nico]

sob, sounds like my (now dead) campaign, OuterSpace... A TC, first mankind spacewar, crappy ships with no shields and very limited weaponary... :me running away trying to hide my tears:
Never mind! Outerspace will live, one day or another, I'm confident in that ( the fact that I have actually some models flying in FS, some that I designed years ago, is my main consolation)