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Offline Unknown Target

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Man Freespace is/was awesome
Just got SOL: Exodus on the Steam Summer Sale for $5 and it's...ok. But it's not Freespace. The funny part is that I can see little bits of Freespace poking out from under the hood, but it doesn't come close. The universe [V] built, helped along a LOT by getting not just good but amazing voice actors, excellent rendered animations, not just for the animatics but for all the weapons, ships, and tech data, just built this amazing sense that you were truly in the universe the game took place in. Not to mention sharp combat mechanics and an amazing story telling style makes sure this game is forever a classic.

Also, one big thing they did right was the radar; it's not super complex like a 3D orb, but it's very good at referencing where ships are relative to you. The one in SOL is terrible; I've found myself spinning in circles because it doesn't tell me where the ships are very well; one of the big reasons is that the ships don't really migrate to the center of the display as you turn to face them; ships in front tend to stay at the top of the radar display. Very frustrating.

 

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Re: Man Freespace is/was awesome
it's not super complex like a 3D orb
How is a 3D orb super complex. It's much simpler to use than the 2D radar.

Actually, screw that. I can feel from here all the 2D lovers powering up their raeg cannons.
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Re: Man Freespace is/was awesome
it's not super complex like a 3D orb
How is a 3D orb super complex. It's much simpler to use than the 2D radar.

Actually, screw that. I can feel from here all the 2D lovers powering up their raeg cannons.
You said it, and then I quoted it, so too late. :p

 

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it's not super complex like a 3D orb
How is a 3D orb super complex. It's much simpler to use than the 2D radar.

Actually, screw that. I can feel from here all the 2D lovers powering up their raeg cannons.

3D orbs are fine.  I was exaggerating.

 

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Ah like mah 2D radar!
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There, told ya.

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Re: Man Freespace is/was awesome
it's not super complex like a 3D orb
How is a 3D orb super complex. It's much simpler to use than the 2D radar.

Actually, screw that. I can feel from here all the 2D lovers powering up their raeg cannons.

I couldn't find the esacpe pod in AoA because I couldn't tell the difference between in front and behind, since they line up on the 3D radar. Plus other navigation-based missions. This is a rather large issue.

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The only issue I see exists between the keyboard and chair :p
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The only issue I see exists between the keyboard and chair :p

Probably, but there is insufficient data when forward and back are the exact same thing on the radar.

I'd claim it's useless for multi, but I rely more on target view then radar for anyone chasing me.
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just by changing your orientation a bit you can tell between front/back on the 3D-radar, or you can pay attention to the way the "tail" is pointing
I actually prefer it.
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...Ilike2dradar:<
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3D radar with radar icons. Sure, you run into depth problems because the tails are gone, but with practice, you can see where everything is through icon size and parallax.

 

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I'd use radar icons if someone made a pack that only listed capital ships as icons and not fighters/bombers as that just creates a mess :P
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I like the 2D radar better in principle, but even putting that aside, the 3D radar just looks ass-ugly in its current implementation. :p

 

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I like the 2D radar better in principle, but even putting that aside, the 3D radar just looks ass-ugly in its current implementation. :p

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Man Freespace is/was awesome

I'd use radar icons if someone made a pack that only listed capital ships as icons and not fighters/bombers as that just creates a mess :P

I like the 2D radar better in principle, but even putting that aside, the 3D radar just looks ass-ugly in its current implementation. :p

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I like the 2D radar better in principle, but even putting that aside, the 3D radar just looks ass-ugly in its current implementation. :p
Wut.

What's wrong with the 3d radar. Give arguments.
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Re: Man Freespace is/was awesome
Lines everywhere (functional I know but they look like ass) especially with icons which are TERRIBAD.
Lots of unneeded information for noobs clouding the instrument when 2d radar works perfectly in all situations except for the one that the 3d radar buckles under anyway (many many targets).

If you are fluent in both 3d radar takes longer to read, basically.
Fix that, and I'll have no problem with it.
Problem is, you can't.
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Wut.

Did QD post made sense to anyone ?

I don't understahnd what you mean by "lines look like ass". Is your 3d radar glitching ? Maybe you should mantis something.
« Last Edit: July 21, 2012, 08:32:09 am by MatthTheGeek »
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Without icons the radar shows everthing like o---------- that points to the center.