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Offline Polpolion

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Oh wow. "We expect everyone to sob their eyes out re: 9/11 but idgaf about some terrorist thing that happened in another country"

GG America.

NBC and America are two distinct entities. The former is a television network and the latter is a set of two continents. You may already know this, but your post leads me to believe that this fact has escaped you.

 

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Oh wow. "We expect everyone to sob their eyes out re: 9/11 but idgaf about some terrorist thing that happened in another country"

GG America.

NBC and America are two distinct entities. The former is a television network and the latter is a set of two continents. You may already know this, but your post leads me to believe that this fact has escaped you.

And my post was in response to Klaustrophobia's, because I get the feeling that his (And NBC's) apparent take on the situation, that broadly Americans wouldn't know or be interested in the 7/7 bombings, is largely correct.
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And my post was in response to Klaustrophobia's, because I get the feeling that his (And NBC's) apparent take on the situation, that broadly Americans wouldn't know or be interested in the 7/7 bombings, is largely correct.

No, your post puts words in Klaustrophobia's mouth. He never mentioned 9/11, which kind of makes a big difference. Not only that, but implying that all US citizens (which I'll assume is what you meant by "America") are self centred is pretty hilariously ironic.

 

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And my post was in response to Klaustrophobia's, because I get the feeling that his (And NBC's) apparent take on the situation, that broadly Americans wouldn't know or be interested in the 7/7 bombings, is largely correct.

No, your post puts words in Klaustrophobia's mouth. He never mentioned 9/11, which kind of makes a big difference. Not only that, but implying that all US citizens (which I'll assume is what you meant by "America") are self centred is pretty hilariously ironic.

Oh, the 9/11 reference was summarising the general attitude I've seen towards 9/11, and contrasting it to this treatment of the 7/7 bombings.
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 :( NBC doesn't constitute the entirety of America.

I for one think maintaining 'the old good nature and the old good humor between our peoples' is worth while.
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Oh, the 9/11 reference was summarising the general attitude I've seen towards 9/11, and contrasting it to this treatment of the 7/7 bombings.

What you want to do is call NBC americentric. For some odd reason I get offended whenever someone makes sweeping generalizations about groups I'm in.

 

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:( NBC doesn't constitute the entirety of America.

I for one think maintaining 'the old good nature and the old good humor between our peoples' is worth while.

Family guy does it right :yes:

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Oh, the 9/11 reference was summarising the general attitude I've seen towards 9/11, and contrasting it to this treatment of the 7/7 bombings.

What you want to do is call NBC americentric. For some odd reason I get offended whenever someone makes sweeping generalizations about groups I'm in.

During an international event? That's beyond self-absorbed.
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Re: NBC cuts war memorial/ 7/7 tribute from Olympic broadcast.
The 7/7 bombings received a ton of news coverage in the US--I think NBC's decision has more to do with their contempt for their viewers than with Americans' contempt for international events they aren't directly involved in.

 

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Re: NBC cuts war memorial/ 7/7 tribute from Olympic broadcast.
The general perception, certainly in the UK is that the US as a whole has this attitude of "you will honour 9/11" so when nbc cut out a memorial to a series of bombings that .
1) happened the day after the announcement that London won the 2012 Olympic bid.
2) was executed by the same terror organisation who committed 9/11.

and why did they cut it out? it 'wasn't tailored to U.S. audience' , when combined with the fact that there was an announcement at the start of that segment to say what it was for and surely as America had 9/11 only a few year prior so surely they can understand the us wanting to remember those dead as surely as America would want to remember 9/11 if it was on that day and they had won the Olympic bid.

It all adds up to a feeling by Brits that Americans in general don't care, that's far from a case by case summery of Americans because as you say it's a generalisation but it's a feeling that is difficult to ignore and has left many bitter.
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Yeah, someone summed it up perfectly on another forum.

Imagine the baying for blood that the American General Public would have if you were hosting the olympics, had some memorial for the 9/11 dead in there, and international media cut it because it "wasn't tailored for x nation's public."

You'd probably start another bloody world war.
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It all adds up to a feeling by Brits that Americans in general don't care, that's far from a case by case summery of Americans because as you say it's a generalisation but it's a feeling that is difficult to ignore and has left many bitter.

By all means make those generalizations but why on Earth would you post them in a place where you know people that break that generalization are going to read it? :p

Yeah, someone summed it up perfectly on another forum.

Imagine the baying for blood that the American General Public would have if you were hosting the olympics, had some memorial for the 9/11 dead in there, and international media cut it because it "wasn't tailored for x nation's public."

You'd probably start another bloody world war.

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Re: NBC cuts war memorial/ 7/7 tribute from Olympic broadcast.
It all adds up to a feeling by Brits that Americans in general don't care, that's far from a case by case summery of Americans because as you say it's a generalisation but it's a feeling that is difficult to ignore and has left many bitter.

By all means make those generalizations but why on Earth would you post them in a place where you know people that break that generalization are going to read it? :p


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Re: NBC cuts war memorial/ 7/7 tribute from Olympic broadcast.
Well if it makes y'all a little less vitriolic about self absorbed 'mericans, this one just sent NBC a complaint letter on the subject.
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Re: NBC cuts war memorial/ 7/7 tribute from Olympic broadcast.
The 7/7 bombings received a ton of news coverage in the US--I think NBC's decision has more to do with their contempt for their viewers than with Americans' contempt for international events they aren't directly involved in.

This sounds about right.

I'm having a good deal of issues with NBC's coverage as it is, mostly my complaints are "Shut up with the talking, show more sports!"

 

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Re: NBC cuts war memorial/ 7/7 tribute from Olympic broadcast.
As an American, I don't really expect people from other countries to think much about 9/11 when the anniversary rolls around, unless they lost loved ones that day.  Because of the way our media works, I'm not all that surprised that there's a sense that other countries would feel "pushed" to remember the day, no matter how Americans themselves might feel about that.  I do think that the 9/11 attacks take a pretty prominent place in terms of their sheer scope, and their impact on the events of the last decade internationally, but that doesn't automatically lead to people who weren't directly impacted by them keeping them in mind.

The thing is, while we did get extensive coverage of the 7/7 attacks when they happened, and I was definitely aware of them myself, I couldn't tell you what the date was until this controversy came up, or what year they happened until I checked Wiki.  By the same token, though, I couldn't tell you either of those facts about the Oklahoma City bombing without also looking them up.  It's interesting how the way in which events impact you personally, and how they become part of the overall culture, affect things like that.

 

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I'm American and I care. I also don't expect other countries to pay much attention to 9/11. however I did not know what that 7/7 bombings were until I looked it up. Though I hafta say in my defense, I was 11 at the time.

also american media is un-american

and in regards to NBC cutting this memorial I am disappointed. Regardless of where it happened, honoring victims > "not relevant for american audiences"
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Re: NBC cuts war memorial/ 7/7 tribute from Olympic broadcast.
Well if it makes y'all a little less vitriolic about self absorbed 'mericans, this one just sent NBC a complaint letter on the subject.

Good on you. I wish a few more of your countrymen would do the same.
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Seconded.

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The media are really excellent at making people angry at each other, indeed at each other's entire country.