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Offline deathfun

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Multiplayer Gameplay trailer recently came out about five days ago, and honestly... it's got my intrigue
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSA-wbeIg8E
I'm not that person who goes ape **** insane over CoD games, but Black Ops 2 certainly has me interested

And since zombies is once again making a return, I'm seriously considering it.


What's everyone's thoughts on it?
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I'm looking forward to it cautiously.

I like CoD games. I don't mind that the overall formula stays relatively unchanged year to year. People bring these things up like they suddenly gained insight but these are similar to the Madden/NHL Hockey/etc. games where the mechanics change year to year but the same basic gameplay will always be there.

Anyways my cautious part is this:

I enjoyed MW2 but it was a bug ridden MP fest after several months and never really had balance issues sorted out. Black Ops was much better in the balance area but the PS3 version suffered from performance issues (frame rate hits being the biggest problem) and the sound and graphics were a few hairs under the outstanding work done in MW2. MW3 feels somewhat tame in comparison to MW2 and Black Ops. They played it safe... mostly because I think the internal politics and need for help from other studios to finish this off meant they went with a fair bit of polish (and it's pretty decent) but not a lot of risk taking.

Black Ops 2 it sounds like Treyarch is now becoming the master. The open ended single player missions with overwatch control or individual solider/vehicle control is cool. Not new, but new for CoD, and if the weapons balancing and fun times in MP are there... then that should be good. Hopefully no PS3 related issues.
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Honestly, I'm amazed they haven't burned out the series by pushing so many titles so fast, that from my understanding having never played them, are pretty much incrementally improved graphics and a new set of maps/guns.
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Call of Duty titles have always nominally had a single-player campaign, and several of them have even been damn good campaigns.  Modern Warfare the first immediately springs to mind as a damn fine single-player experience for the story, and Call of Duty 2 is also very good.  I know people who swear by World at War/Black Ops, but I've always been of the opinion that Treyarch somehow manages to dick up everything good they manage to do the first time. 

Call of Duty 3 is outright bad, from a game design standpoint.  The lack of a sprint function is criminal in a game that included significantly more machine guns than any of the previous titles, and long, only half-obstructed view lines meant that your normal movement speed was "Please shoot me", and the story wasn't that riveting, either.

In World at War, (IMO, at least) it was how they deliberately set the tone as dark as possible, to the point of it sometimes being uncomfortable to play.  The American part of the story might as well be "Do sadistic things to the Japanese, and watch your squad die slowly", while the Russian part of the story could be equally easily condensed to "Do sadistic things to the Nazis, and then do it even harder".

I can't actually admit that I've played the Black Ops campaign at any point, so I can't offer an honest opinion on it, but it feels like it fell prey to "New scenery syndrome" like Modern Warfare the second.

 

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I can't actually admit that I've played the Black Ops campaign at any point, so I can't offer an honest opinion on it, but it feels like it fell prey to "New scenery syndrome" like Modern Warfare the second.

The black ops campaign was actually pretty good. It's been awhile since I've played it, but one of the most interesting thing was how events in the game tied in to real life events at the same era (1960's-70's)

Black ops 2  looks surprisingly good, and zombies has its own game engine to run on, including an 8 player mode, which should be pretty sick
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The new kit system rules allowing and rewarding things like having no rifle and the return of ironsighted bolt-rifles have me excited for it.

Assuming no horrible "features" like MW2's IWnet are being hidden from us, it should be good

 

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Despite my misgivings with Black Ops the campaign was decent... but the first 1/3rd is largely crap. I don't know why but the mechanics early on in the campaign are not as polished as they are later on. Later on the campaign becomes really interesting story wise, the pace slows down a bit and you can really get into the whole setting, it's tied nicely into history... really well done by the end.

This time around I'm hoping for the polish from the last one (in the later 2/3rds) to continue and be better. Hopefully!
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=4wIZp_E2CxQ

This thing is for certain
They do great trailers




Also Zombies
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I kinda like the Surprise trailer, but thats about it. For me, CoD doesnt have any good teamwork based game-play so I avoid it.

Also, it still lacks any ability to actually fish for cod.  :no:

Other than that, enjoy!
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Offline Topgun

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=4wIZp_E2CxQ

This thing is for certain
They do great trailers




Also Zombies


You know the game will be terrible when they have to blow loads of cash to get celebrity cameos for the trailer. At least in my experience

 

Offline An4ximandros

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I avoid games such as CoD like the plague right now.

Progressively plankton length maps and awards for pulling BS instead of teamwork? Nah thanks.

Don't get me started on the single player.

 

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Which would have higher player base for Black Ops2. PC or Xbox360?
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Which would have higher player base for Black Ops2. PC or Xbox360?

Most likely Xbox 360 since that's where all the little *redacted* mesh together to have a giant orgy on CoD
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Have to say i am totally fed up with the call of duty/medal of honour series, even zombies mode has gotten boring for me, so i will be passing up on this. Although the advert with Robert Downey JR in pretty funny.
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I initially had little to zero hope for this title.

Then I realized they weren't even trying to shoehorn actual real life events into it, nor were they trying to take themselves seriously about it (at least I hope they aren't.  If they are, it's hilarious for entirely different reasons).

Might give it a shot once the price drops below $60.

 

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I initially had little to zero hope for this title.

Then I realized they weren't even trying to shoehorn actual real life events into it, nor were they trying to take themselves seriously about it (at least I hope they aren't.  If they are, it's hilarious for entirely different reasons).

Might give it a shot once the price drops below $60.

when the after credits scene features (non specific spoiler of non-cannon event depending on choices in the game, however still spoiling the silly thing it is:)
Spoiler:
the main villian and very Old Woods in a rock concert
you know it's not being too serious.

And I love that.

 

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Have to say i am totally fed up with the call of duty/medal of honour series, even zombies mode has gotten boring for me, so i will be passing up on this. Although the advert with Robert Downey JR in pretty funny.

You've clearly haven't been keeping up with the revamped version of zombies they're doing

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Treyarch has confirmed that the Zombies mode will return for Black Ops II with its own campaign. Its predecessors were Call of Duty: World at War and Call of Duty: Black Ops. This is the third time for the Zombies mode to appear in a Call of Duty game, and the first time to have its own campaign along with the main story. Treyarch has also confirmed that Zombies will implement the multiplayer engine, allowing for a deeper community experience along with new game modes. It has also been confirmed that the Zombies mode will support 8 player co-op, unlike Call of Duty: World at War and Call of Duty: Black Ops, which only supported 4 player online co-op. Treyarch announced in August 2012 that Nuketown would be remade as a zombie map for those buying Hardened or Care Package Edition of Black Ops 2. On September 26, 2012, the Zombies reveal trailer was released as well as three new game modes confirmed: Tranzit is a game mode that is a combination of multiple maps in one game and the way to travel around it is to ride on a bus, Survival is the original mode from Call of Duty: World at War and Call of Duty: Black Ops where you survive as long as possible, and finally the mode Grief which is 4 players vs 4 players vs zombies. Although a Zombies campaign is confirmed it is still unknown if Campaign is the Tranzit mode or if Campaign and Tranzit are completely different modes. On October 28, 2012 a new game mode was introduced called Infected were if you get killed by a zombie you turn into a zombie.
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That's sloppy work treyarch, but it's also neat.

 

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I've seen complaints that the "bad guys" in this game are basically Anonymous/"the 99%" + terrorism. Anyone care to explain what they're talking about?