[Starman01]

Hi,

hasn't magic uploaded yet ? Sorry, I will remind him again We would be happy if some freelancer coders help out, even if it's just a bit. Magic is currently really stressed, working to much on MCO

Technically the game is not handled as open source project in spe. We have our goals what we want to achive, but not really that way, that everyone can always touch our work. But we welcome everyone who wants too.  The orignal code itself is being offered for download at MS website.

[magic]

Echelon9,

I will make the source available to you next week.

Just a reminder Btw, is this project actually being managed as open source?  I.e. with public access to the code branch that is being worked on?

I am sorry Echelon9, I have been distracted from MCO. Working on another code and completely forgot to upload MCO project.

Entire project is 5-6 GB.

[Echelon9]

That would be due to game content though - surely the source code is much smaller, even with included and packaged libaries?

[Baine10]

I have tried everything, but keep getting ASSERT 20.

Did the resolutions on all resolutions, On windowed and fullscreen, with and without the new MCO REL file.

Here is the errorlog.

Code: [Select]

STOP      :  [ASSERT 20] wrong number of control buttons


STOP      :  [ASSERT 20] wrong number of control buttons
Address   : 0x004A615E
Location  : MCOREL! (+0xA515E)

Call Stack
==========
0x004A7993 MCOREL! (+0xA6993)               
0x0047E20B MCOREL! (+0x7D20B)               
0x00484119 MCOREL! (+0x83119)               
0x004DF599 MCOREL! (+0xDE599)               
0x004E0459 MCOREL! (+0xDF459)               
0x00403715 MCOREL! (+0x2715)               
0x005B53C4 MCOREL! (+0x1B43C4)             

Processor Registers EAX=0x00000000 EBX=0x00000000 ECX=0x00000000 EDX=0x00000000 Flags=0x00000000
=================== ESI=0x00000000 EDI=0x00000000 EBP=0x0018BD74 ESP=0x0018B824   EIP=0x004A615E
EIP (0x004A615E) 8B B5 E0 FD FF FF 39 3D 60 F1 72 00 74 63 3B F7 7E 5F 33 F6 EB 06 8B B5 EC FD FF FF 8B 15 60 F1
ESP (0x0018B824) 0018B864 00000000 0018C138 2CFF87DC 00000014 00000000 00000000 00000000
                 00000000 0018BD84 00000200 00000046 33F76468 00000100 0000003A 2B3F2838
                 00010000 000003C6 34005E58 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000

Machine details
===============
Executable name           : C:\MechCommanderOmnitech\MCORel.exe
Executable time, date     : 13:48:34 Tuesday 10/2/2012
Command line              :
Current directory         : C:\MechCommanderOmnitech
Current time, date        : 20:24:28 Monday 10/22/2012
GameOS build version      : Version 1.1 11/2/2000
Software rasterizer       : c:\mechcommanderomnitech\assets\binaries\blade.dll (Size 286,786 bytes)
User name                 : CHEN
Machine name              : PC-INTERWEBS
Processor                 : 3200MHz AMD Unknown MMX 3DNow! SSE Model=4, Type=15, Stepping=3 (Four Processors)
Cache Information         : Unknown
L2 r/w/rw speed           : 3 cycles 34133MB/s, 5 cycles 20480MB/s, 4 cycles 25600MB/s
Main memory r/w/rw speed  : 16 cycles 6400MB/s, 18 cycles 5688MB/s, 10 cycles 10240MB/s
Video memory r/w/rw speed : 231 cycles 443MB/s, 49 cycles 2089MB/s, 370 cycles 276MB/s
AGP memory r/w/rw speed   : 230 cycles 445MB/s, 47 cycles 2178MB/s, 349 cycles 293MB/s
Operating system          : Windows (6.1.7601)  Service Pack 1
DirectX version           : 9.04.00.0904
Time since booted         : 1h 24m 21s
Time in game logic        : 0h 0m 43.49s (on frame 732)
Time app running          : 0h 0m 43.49s
Physical memory           : 4,294,967,295 bytes (0 Meg)
Available physical memory : 4,294,967,295 bytes (0 Meg)
Swapfile size             : 4,294,967,295 bytes (0 Meg)
Swapfile available        : 4,294,967,295 bytes (0 Meg)
Virtual memory            : 2,147,352,576 bytes (2048 Meg)
Available virtual memory  : 1,096,896,512 bytes (1046 Meg)
Amount of stack used      : 18500 bytes
Memory load               : 39%
Desktop video mode        : 1360,768 16bpp
Mode when crash occured   : Full Screen 640x480x16 (NVIDIA GeForce GTX 550 Ti)
Networked Machine         : No
Executable version        : m00152
PCI Chipset               : Unknown

               Processes  Pri Threads Path
==========================================
               fraps.exe : 10 :  28 : C:\Fraps\fraps.exe
               Steam.exe :  8 :  40 : C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\Steam.exe
             sidebar.exe :  8 :  14 : C:\Program Files (x86)\Windows Sidebar\sidebar.exe
            rundll32.exe :  8 :   5 : C:\Windows\SysWOW64\rundll32.exe
               Skype.exe :  8 :  25 : C:\Program Files (x86)\Skype\Phone\Skype.exe
            TeaTimer.exe :  4 :   4 : C:\Program Files (x86)\Spybot - Search & Destroy\TeaTimer.exe
             Dropbox.exe :  8 :  21 : C:\Users\CHEN\AppData\Roaming\Dropbox\bin\Dropbox.exe
            nusb3mon.exe :  8 :   4 : C:\Program Files (x86)\Renesas Electronics\USB 3.0 Host Controller Driver\Application\nusb3mon.exe
             AirGCFG.exe :  8 :   4 : C:\Program Files (x86)\D-Link\DWA-125 revA\AirGCFG.exe
            WZCSLDR2.exe :  8 :   8 : C:\Program Files (x86)\D-Link\DWA-125 revA\WZCSLDR2.exe
        hamachi-2-ui.exe :  8 :   2 : C:\Program Files (x86)\LogMeIn Hamachi\hamachi-2-ui.exe
             jusched.exe :  8 :   1 : C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\Java\Java Update\jusched.exe
              chrome.exe :  8 :  39 : C:\Users\CHEN\AppData\Local\Google\Chrome\Application\chrome.exe
              chrome.exe :  8 :  11 : C:\Users\CHEN\AppData\Local\Google\Chrome\Application\chrome.exe
              chrome.exe :  8 :   9 : C:\Users\CHEN\AppData\Local\Google\Chrome\Application\chrome.exe
              chrome.exe :  8 :   8 : C:\Users\CHEN\AppData\Local\Google\Chrome\Application\chrome.exe
              chrome.exe :  8 :   8 : C:\Users\CHEN\AppData\Local\Google\Chrome\Application\chrome.exe
              chrome.exe :  8 :  22 : C:\Users\CHEN\AppData\Local\Google\Chrome\Application\chrome.exe
              chrome.exe :  6 :   8 : C:\Users\CHEN\AppData\Local\Google\Chrome\Application\chrome.exe
              chrome.exe :  6 :   8 : C:\Users\CHEN\AppData\Local\Google\Chrome\Application\chrome.exe
              chrome.exe :  8 :   8 : C:\Users\CHEN\AppData\Local\Google\Chrome\Application\chrome.exe
              chrome.exe :  6 :   8 : C:\Users\CHEN\AppData\Local\Google\Chrome\Application\chrome.exe
              mumble.exe : 13 :  15 : C:\Program Files (x86)\Mumble\mumble.exe
             DllHost.exe :  8 :   4 : C:\Windows\SysWOW64\DllHost.exe
              chrome.exe :  8 :   8 : C:\Users\CHEN\AppData\Local\Google\Chrome\Application\chrome.exe
              chrome.exe :  6 :   8 : C:\Users\CHEN\AppData\Local\Google\Chrome\Application\chrome.exe
              chrome.exe :  6 :   8 : C:\Users\CHEN\AppData\Local\Google\Chrome\Application\chrome.exe
              MCORel.exe :  8 :  14 : C:\MechCommanderOmnitech\MCORel.exe

DLL Version numbers
===================
msvcrt.dll    - Version 6.00.8337.0 - Found in C:\MechCommanderOmnitech
msvcrtd.dll   - Version 6.00.8337.0 - Found in C:\MechCommanderOmnitech
msvcirt.dll   - Version 6.00.8168.0 - Found in C:\MechCommanderOmnitech
msvcirtd.dll  - Version 6.00.8168.0 - Found in C:\MechCommanderOmnitech
amstream.dll  - Version 6.6.7600.16385
quartz.dll    - Version 6.6.7600.16385
Ir50_32.dll   - Version R.5.10.15.2.55
dsound.dll    - Version 6.1.7600.16385
dinput.dll    - Version 6.1.7600.16385
d3dim.dll     - Version 6.1.7600.16385
ddraw.dll     - Version 6.1.7600.16385
dplayx.dll    - Version 6.1.7600.16385

Sound device 0 (Prefered device) (Current) - (HW Mixing Disabled)
==============
Description        : Speakers (High Definition Audio Device)
Driver file        : {0.0.0.00000000}.{1f83aecd-6d30-4d3a-b7eb-b25a56228a70}
Driver file data   : Cannot find driver file
CERTIFIED          : No
EMULDRIVER         : No
CONTINUOUSRATE     : Yes
PRIMARYMONO        : Yes
PRIMARYSTEREO      : Yes
PRIMARY8BIT        : Yes
PRIMARY16BIT       : Yes
SECONDARYMONO      : Yes
SECONDARYSTEREO    : Yes
SECONDARY8BIT      : Yes
SECONDARY16BIT     : Yes
MinSecondarySampleRate      : 100
MaxSecondarySampleRate      : 200000
PrimaryBuffers              : 1
MaxHwMixingAllBuffers       : 1
MaxHwMixingStaticBuffers    : 1
MaxHwMixingStreamingBuffers : 1
FreeHwMixingAllBuffers      : 0
FreeHwMixingStaticBuffers   : 0
FreeHwMixingStreamingBuffers: 0
MaxHw3DAllBuffers           : 0
MaxHw3DStaticBuffers        : 0
MaxHw3DStreamingBuffers     : 0
FreeHw3DAllBuffers          : 0
FreeHw3DStaticBuffers       : 0
FreeHw3DStreamingBuffers    : 0
TotalHwMemBytes             : 0
FreeHwMemBytes              : 0
MaxContigFreeHwMemBytes     : 0
UnlockTransferRateHwBuffers : 0
PlayCpuOverheadSwBuffers    : 0

Sound device 1
==============
Description        : Digital Audio (S/PDIF) (High Definition Audio Device)
Driver file        : {0.0.0.00000000}.{5d3c5950-898b-4226-9740-1c0b4cd48f01}
Driver file data   : Cannot find driver file
CERTIFIED          : No
EMULDRIVER         : No
CONTINUOUSRATE     : Yes
PRIMARYMONO        : Yes
PRIMARYSTEREO      : Yes
PRIMARY8BIT        : Yes
PRIMARY16BIT       : Yes
SECONDARYMONO      : Yes
SECONDARYSTEREO    : Yes
SECONDARY8BIT      : Yes
SECONDARY16BIT     : Yes
MinSecondarySampleRate      : 100
MaxSecondarySampleRate      : 200000
PrimaryBuffers              : 1
MaxHwMixingAllBuffers       : 1
MaxHwMixingStaticBuffers    : 1
MaxHwMixingStreamingBuffers : 1
FreeHwMixingAllBuffers      : 0
FreeHwMixingStaticBuffers   : 0
FreeHwMixingStreamingBuffers: 0
MaxHw3DAllBuffers           : 0
MaxHw3DStaticBuffers        : 0
MaxHw3DStreamingBuffers     : 0
FreeHw3DAllBuffers          : 0
FreeHw3DStaticBuffers       : 0
FreeHw3DStreamingBuffers    : 0
TotalHwMemBytes             : 0
FreeHwMemBytes              : 0
MaxContigFreeHwMemBytes     : 0
UnlockTransferRateHwBuffers : 0
PlayCpuOverheadSwBuffers    : 0

Video device 0
==============
Description        : NVIDIA GeForce GTX 550 Ti
Driver file        : nvd3dum.dll
Driver size        : 15,309,160 bytes
Driver date        : 12:58:28 Sunday 4/29/2012
Attributes         : Final Release, Private Build
Driver version     : 9.18.13.0697
Version            : 9.18.13.0697
Hardware ID        : 10DE.1244 (Rev 161, Subsys 0x35371458)
Video memory       : 4,246,548,480 bytes (4050 Meg)
Card texture mem   : 1,025,179,648 bytes (978 Meg)
AGP texture memory : 3,221,368,832 bytes (3072 Meg)
FourCC modes       : NV12 NV24 YV12 UYVY YUY2 AI44 AYUV AIP8 AV12 PLFF NVMD NVDP NVDB SSAA ATOC 3x11
Texture formats    : 555 1555 4444 565 0888 8888 Bump map DuDv (8,8) Bump map DuDv (8,8) FourCC (1TXD) FourCC (2TXD) FourCC (3TXD) FourCC (4TXD) FourCC (5TXD) FourCC (SCVN) FourCC (UHVN) FourCC (SHVN)
Z Buffer formats   : 16 bit Z 32 bit Z (Z=32 (0xffffff00) Stencil=8 (0xff)) (Z=32 (0xffffff) Stencil=8 (0xff000000)) 32 bit Z 24 bit Z
16 bit modes       : 640x480 720x480 720x576 800x600 1024x768 1280x720 1280x768 1360x768
32 bit modes       : 640x480 720x480 720x576 800x600 1024x768 1280x720 1280x768 1360x768
CERTIFIED          : No
DRAWPRIMITIVES2    : Yes
DRAWPRIMITIVES2EX  : Yes
DRAWPRIMTLVERTEX   : Yes
FLIPINTERVAL       : Yes
FLIPNOVSYNC        : Yes
NO2DDURING3DSCENE  : No
NONLOCALVIDMEM     : Yes
NOPAGELOCKREQUIRED : No
CALIBRATE GAMMA    : No
PRIMARYGAMMA       : Yes
ZBuffer            : 16 24
Render Depth       : 16 32
Texture Size       : 1x1 to 8192x8192
Maximum u,v coords : 8192.0
Guard Band Clipping: -100000000,-100000000 to 100000000,100000000
AlphaTest NotEqual : Yes
Missing Src blend  :
Missing Dest blend :
AGP Texture        : Yes
Texture Coords     : 8
Blend Stages       : 8
Max Textures       : 8
Hardware T&L       : Yes
Vertex Blending    : 4
Maximum Lights     : 8
Clip Planes        : 8
Blend Lightmap     : Ok
Blend Specularmap  : Ok
Blend Detail       : Ok
Linear vid memory  : Yes
SELECTARG1         : Yes
SELECTARG2         : Yes
ADD                : Yes
ADDSIGNED          : Yes
SUBTRACT           : Yes
MODULATE           : Yes
MODULATE2X         : Yes
MODULATE4X         : Yes
BLENDCURRENTALPHA  : Yes
BLENDDIFFUSEALPHA  : Yes
BLENDTEXTUREALPHA  : Yes
BUMPENVMAP         : Yes
BUMPENVMAPLUMINANCE: Yes
DOTPRODUCT3        : Yes
ANISOTROPY         : Yes
ANTIALIASSORTINDEP : Yes
FOGTABLE           : Yes
FOGVERTEX          : Yes
FOGRANGE           : Yes
WFOG               : Yes
WBUFFER            : No
MIPMAPLODBIAS      : Yes
WBUFFER            : No
ZBUFFERLESSHSR     : No
MIPNEAREST         : Yes
LINEARMIPLINEAR    : Yes
DONOTSTRIPELEMENTS : Yes
TEXTURE CLAMP      : Yes
TEXTURE BORDER     : Yes
TEXTURE MIRROR     : Yes
ALPHAGOURAUDBLEND  : Yes
SQUAREONLY         : No
COLORFLATMONO      : Yes
COLORGOURAUDMONO   : Yes
COLORFLATRGB       : Yes
COLORGOURAUDRGB    : Yes
SPECULARFLATRGB    : Yes
SPECULARGOURAUDRGB : No

Video device 1
==============
Description        : NVIDIA GeForce GTX 550 Ti
Driver file        : nvd3dum.dll
Driver size        : 15,309,160 bytes
Driver date        : 12:58:28 Sunday 4/29/2012
Attributes         : Final Release, Private Build
Driver version     : 9.18.13.0697
Version            : 9.18.13.0697
Hardware ID        : 10DE.1244 (Rev 161, Subsys 0x35371458)
Video memory       : 4,246,548,480 bytes (4050 Meg)
Card texture mem   : 1,025,179,648 bytes (978 Meg)
AGP texture memory : 3,221,368,832 bytes (3072 Meg)
FourCC modes       : NV12 NV24 YV12 UYVY YUY2 AI44 AYUV AIP8 AV12 PLFF NVMD NVDP NVDB SSAA ATOC 3x11
Texture formats    : 555 1555 4444 565 0888 8888 Bump map DuDv (8,8) Bump map DuDv (8,8) FourCC (1TXD) FourCC (2TXD) FourCC (3TXD) FourCC (4TXD) FourCC (5TXD) FourCC (SCVN) FourCC (UHVN) FourCC (SHVN)
Z Buffer formats   : 16 bit Z 32 bit Z (Z=32 (0xffffff00) Stencil=8 (0xff)) (Z=32 (0xffffff) Stencil=8 (0xff000000)) 32 bit Z 24 bit Z
16 bit modes       : 640x480 720x480 720x576 800x600 1024x768 1280x720 1280x768 1360x768
32 bit modes       : 640x480 720x480 720x576 800x600 1024x768 1280x720 1280x768 1360x768
CERTIFIED          : No
DRAWPRIMITIVES2    : Yes
DRAWPRIMITIVES2EX  : Yes
DRAWPRIMTLVERTEX   : Yes
FLIPINTERVAL       : Yes
FLIPNOVSYNC        : Yes
NO2DDURING3DSCENE  : No
NONLOCALVIDMEM     : Yes
NOPAGELOCKREQUIRED : No
CALIBRATE GAMMA    : No
PRIMARYGAMMA       : Yes
ZBuffer            : 16 24
Render Depth       : 16 32
Texture Size       : 1x1 to 8192x8192
Maximum u,v coords : 8192.0
Guard Band Clipping: -100000000,-100000000 to 100000000,100000000
AlphaTest NotEqual : Yes
Missing Src blend  :
Missing Dest blend :
AGP Texture        : Yes
Texture Coords     : 8
Blend Stages       : 8
Max Textures       : 8
Hardware T&L       : Yes
Vertex Blending    : 4
Maximum Lights     : 8
Clip Planes        : 8
Blend Lightmap     : Ok
Blend Specularmap  : Ok
Blend Detail       : Ok
Linear vid memory  : Yes
SELECTARG1         : Yes
SELECTARG2         : Yes
ADD                : Yes
ADDSIGNED          : Yes
SUBTRACT           : Yes
MODULATE           : Yes
MODULATE2X         : Yes
MODULATE4X         : Yes
BLENDCURRENTALPHA  : Yes
BLENDDIFFUSEALPHA  : Yes
BLENDTEXTUREALPHA  : Yes
BUMPENVMAP         : Yes
BUMPENVMAPLUMINANCE: Yes
DOTPRODUCT3        : Yes
ANISOTROPY         : Yes
ANTIALIASSORTINDEP : Yes
FOGTABLE           : Yes
FOGVERTEX          : Yes
FOGRANGE           : Yes
WFOG               : Yes
WBUFFER            : No
MIPMAPLODBIAS      : Yes
WBUFFER            : No
ZBUFFERLESSHSR     : No
MIPNEAREST         : Yes
LINEARMIPLINEAR    : Yes
DONOTSTRIPELEMENTS : Yes
TEXTURE CLAMP      : Yes
TEXTURE BORDER     : Yes
TEXTURE MIRROR     : Yes
ALPHAGOURAUDBLEND  : Yes
SQUAREONLY         : No
COLORFLATMONO      : Yes
COLORGOURAUDMONO   : Yes
COLORFLATRGB       : Yes
COLORGOURAUDRGB    : Yes
SPECULARFLATRGB    : Yes
SPECULARGOURAUDRGB : No


22/10/2012 (Starman)      Code tags added to make it better viewable

[Starman01]

What resolution are you trying to run the game ?

Pls try the attachment in this post :

http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php?topic=82099.msg1643979#msg1643979

and then the solution provided by this user here, if it helps you getting around the problem :

http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php?topic=82099.msg1644000#msg1644000

[Strikahr]

gentlemen, i am but a simple BT/MW fan and i have really enjoyed playing MCO.  with my busy schedule between the navy and family life, i really only get to play ont he weekends.  well i recently upgraded to version 240 and before hand it was running just fine, but now the game crashes everytime i go to launch a mission.  it will get about 30% loaded on the bar and crash.  the only exception is with Exodus.  Please, im begging for help, this is the game i wake up to on the weekends with a cup of coffee while the wife and kids are still sleeping.

Code: [Select]

EXCEPTION : Attempt to write to address 0xB169320E in MSVCR100! (+0xF44)
Address   : 0x5D521F44
Location  : MSVCR100! (+0xF44)

Call Stack
==========
0x0060D7E7 MCOREL! (+0x20C7E7)             
0x00520100 MCOREL! (+0x11F100)             

Processor Registers EAX=0x0000003A EBX=0x0000003C ECX=0x0000003A EDX=0x00000002 Flags=0x00210202
=================== ESI=0x27B13000 EDI=0xB169320E EBP=0x0018C104 ESP=0x0018C0FC   EIP=0x5D521F44
EIP (0x5D521F44) 88 07 8A 46 01 C1 E9 02 88 47 01 83 C6 02 83 C7 02 83 F9 08 72 A6 F3 A5 FF 24 95 F0 1F 52 5D 90
ESP (0x0018C0FC) 0BCD7C58 0018C1E0 27B13000 0060D7E7 B169320E 27B13000 0000003C 0018C1E0
                 0BCD7C58 07D0F267 00000003 0060CFC8 0BCD7C58 B169320E 00000000 00000004
                 0BCD7C58 07D0F250 0018C1E0 0B3B0938 00007FC4 27497338 0060B468 00000006
EDI (0xB169320E) ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ??
                 ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ??
ESI (0x27B13000) 3A 00 01 3B 00 01 52 00 01 54 00 00 55 00 01 56 00 01 59 00 00 5A 00 00 5B 00 00 5C 00 01 5D 00
                 01 5E 00 01 5F 00 01 60 00 01 61 00 01 6C 00 00 6D 00 00 6E 00 00 6F 00 00 70 00 00 00 00 00 00 [code]


[Starman01]

Welcome to our forum. Unfortunately, since our coder (the only one who can really read something out of these errors) is also a family person and not available on the weekend. The only suggestion I can give you atm (since it worked before) is to uninstall and reinstall again

Sorry for no better help, Magic might say something about this on monday.

[Echelon9]

That would be due to game content though - surely the source code is much smaller, even with included and packaged libaries?

Sorry to bug the devs, but I really think I could make some strides fixing these memory corruption crashes reported regularly.

In order to do that, I'd need the latest source code version.

If the MS release of source code + in-game media assets is really multi-gigs, then I'd strongly argue in favour of extracting the source code alone as a project to host on SVN / GitHub, while managing the larger in-game media assets separately.

[Strikahr]

Well I'm no coder, I maintain aircrew flight equipment for a living, but Exodus seems to work just fine so ill play that one for now.  That being said, it leads me to believe that maybe my other campaigns are out of date. 

[Strikahr]

That was it, I redownloaded my campaigns and they all work now.  I appologize for the confusion.

[Starman01]

No need to apologize..., it's all right. And good to hear that it's now working. Have fun with it

[MetalTheory]

Win 7 32-bit
1. Tons of crashes, often in the MechLab, when removing items.  And if I Alt-Tab back to MC2 from another game (like Fishdom 3).  Alt-Tabbing back from Notepad is OK.
2. Mouse Scroll Wheel often unhooks from program.  Does not function.  Alt-tabbing, then returning, solves it.  I do use WizMouse for scrolling windows under cursor.
3. After setting several run waypoints, then panning camera, all icon graphics went to super-low resolution.  Including map.  But not play field.  Most of logistics phase screen blurred as well.  Fixed by re-starting.  (MC2 Magic Modified Campaign: Steiner - M4).
4. After setting several jump waypoints, then panning camera, doing other things; I found that Dagger, in a Catapult, was stuck.  could not move at all.  Reported "Path Blocked".  It was not.  Could not walk, run, jump, move to attack or capture.  Shutdown & Startup did not help.  Tried to repair, mech would not shutdown for repair.  I shot off her leg, mech fell down, did not get up.  Repair then worked, but still could not move.  Exiting program and restarting did not fix.  Mission required movement to extraction point (she was just out of range); could not extract without having her eject.  So I lost the mech.  (MC2 Magic Modified Campaign: Steiner - 9 - Bandit HQ Assault).   

[xenoargh]

Hi.  I wrote the different rules for missile LOS awhile ago, thought I'd check in.  Overall, this looks great

I really feel like somebody needs to:

1.  Play through Exodus, correct all the ABL goofs, balance issues etc.  For example, a_0_3 is literally unwinnable over here, the Clan groups attack at the start, instead of waiting for the player to hit the trigger.

As another example, there's nothing worth buying throughout the campaign.  No point in having money if there's nothing to do with it

Basically, I'd rather that Exodus was hard because I have to kill 600 tons with 150 than because I can't buy anything, buy repair vehicles, etc., so I'm rebuilding a lot of the missions over here

2.  Weapon balance needs a lot of work.  Weapons that eat multiple spaces should be more efficient than weapons that use just one space, due to the way that spaces work.  I did a rough rebal as a starting-place, it's attached

I read somewhere about switching to a MW IV style- please don't, it pigeonholed 'mechs and literally made it impossible to use all the slots.

3.  If you really want help on the code, you need to open the source and put it on Git/SVN/etc. and document how to get the engine to compile (which, IIRC, was a pain, because it uses old stuff).  Both things are necessary; you can't get much serious help on code if we're not allowed to fork it and try things out, for example.

4.  Karl's Purchase File Editor's Open button doesn't work over here.  Save and Exit work.  It also writes out different Pilot files than the Exodus / Carver V versions, and the code for pilots apparently doesn't keep them from mission to mission, which means you have to rebuild every single Purchase file and then they have abilities they probably shouldn't.

5.  It'd be really nice to be able to open, save and edit ABL files in the editor instead of not even knowing what's assigned to what, etc., let alone be able to test it.  The whole process of mission creation is really over-complicated and murky atm

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[Karl]

there is a sneaky trick to mission 3 of Exodus. Use your resources

[xenoargh]

I know what you're talking about, and you should probably test it right now; it doesn't work as designed. 

The Clan's already in range of the Ambulance with LRMs by the time your resources can be used; either 'mech speeds increased on the Clan stuff or other changes to the balance screwed the timing up.

[Karl]

Ok I will replay it, I think I have played it since 240 but could be wrong, will let you know how I get on

[xenoargh]

Please do; so far as I could determine, it just needed a smallish change in terms of timing, or a wait built into the ABL; I know that Exodus is supposed to be hard, but it should have a well-tuned difficulty ramp, too

[magic]

xenoargh, thank you.

I will try exo. miss. 3. Even if you salvage that Hunchback you cant get to the trigger point in time?

I have the latest version of the code uploaded to our ftp, we will work on svn...

[xenoargh]

Even if you salvage that Hunchback you cant get to the trigger point in time?

Yes.  I tried probably a dozen times, then I just modified the mission and gave the Ambulance more hitpoints 

[Raven IIC]

Have you tried Pausing the mission, moving the camera to the base and salvaging the Hunchback, and (still paused) moving the camera to where you want the Hunchback and your already selected mechs to go?

I've tried this mission many times, and there seems to be no problems. Maybe this could also be a difficulty level issue (though that's unlikely)