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Offline Aesaar

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We know that Carey was the GTVA mole that gave the UEF the Agincourt's jump schedule, but there's another mole in WiH: the person who gave Steele the information about the UEF - Vasudan meeting.

Quote from: Deals in Shadows debriefing
The mission was compromised from the start. Someone in the Federation leaked the details of the secret negotiations to Admiral Steele. He was ready.

So who was responsible?

It would have to be someone who knew the exact details of the proceedings.  So who does that include?  Simms, Laporte, and our 3 admirals, certainly.  Who else?

Commence speculation!  Let's pin this mole down, people.

 

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Just throwing another name out there:

Captain Lloyd Sorenson?

 

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The debriefing, as an in-universe document, can contain errors. Being ready does not necessarily equate to the op being compromised.

It also dismisses out of hand the possibility that the operation was compromised by a Vasudan, which seems much more likely than that it was compromised by a UEF officer.
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The debriefing, as an in-universe document, can contain errors. Being ready does not necessarily equate to the op being compromised.

It also dismisses out of hand the possibility that the operation was compromised by a Vasudan, which seems much more likely than that it was compromised by a UEF officer.

Somebody got an agent aboard the UEF VIP transport, though.

 

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Given the alacrity at which the Vasudan captain acted and unilaterally broke off the proceedings, I'd be inclined to think that the Vasudan leak is likely.  That said, it need not be exclusively Vasudan in nature.

 

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FS1's Alpha 1?

 

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FS1's Alpha 1?

He's in his early to mid 70s. Unless you believe an old man would be monitored by the Council and simultaneously be a sellout.
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What about Elder Henriksson? Seems too convenient that the best person for the job would happen to be too sick, and she has ties to Netreba and the Vasudans.
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Who in the UEF could possibly want to betray them... hmph, it's sad we don't have details on the CofEe itself. (:p)

But if it REALLY was a UEF leak, it would really undermine admiral Steele's character, it seems more likely that the Vasudan Admiral, who was a friend of Steele, told him about the nature of his mission
and Steele got to work as soon as he told him it would be safer if he attended on a Destroyer (he was supposed to come on a light ship from what I remember.)

 

Offline Drogoth

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Vasudan members of the Fedayeen? The ones that came through with FS1 Alpha 1?

Maybe they aren't so cool with the UEF, having seen the darker side, and are determined that their brethren not ally themselves with a council that would use the Fedayeen?
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Something tells me there should have been a background check on all the crew escorting the Elder. And shouldn't Netreba's intelligence guys be at some sort of fault?

Vasudan members of the Fedayeen? The ones that came through with FS1 Alpha 1?

There's only 4, assuming they all lived (which should be part of the Bastion Twenty, 4 each from Alpha, Beta, and Epsilon, 8 from Delta).

Who in the UEF could possibly want to betray them... hmph, it's sad we don't have details on the CofEe itself. (:p)

SOC rats from the 14th? Some shadow from the Gaian Effort?
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Could also be a GTVA loyalist on the Vasudan Admiral's staff who alerted Steele
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We know that Carey was the GTVA mole that gave the UEF the Agincourt's jump schedule, but there's another mole in WiH: the person who gave Steele the information about the UEF - Vasudan meeting.
Are you really so sure it was Carey herself who gave away the information.
I always assumed that, when Carey gave the UEF informatinon, she did so in a way that didn't give away her identity (I certainly wouldn't want to broadcast my identity to someone I'm not 100% sure I can trust over a transmission that might be intercepted), not even to the UEF. And thus, after she was discovered and caught, the GTVA could just send someone acting the same way Carey did, but giving out misinformation, without the UEF ever noticing the difference untill it's too late.

I know Careys interrogation hints at the GTVA doing brainwashing, but considering how little time passed between Carey giving the real information and the mole giving out the bait, I think Carey still being in the brainwash camp and someone else contacting the UEF through her channels is more likely than her being turned so quickly and completely.

 

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Are you really so sure it was Carey herself who gave away the information.

Carey leaked information that led to the Agincourt's capture. Which is why she was arrested (reference: Conversations from WiH). What happened to that channel after that, I will leave to your imagination.
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That's exactly what I was getting at.
We are looking for GTVA sympatisizer working against the UEF here, right?
Carey was the exact opposit, before she was caught and wether she was the one to sell out the UEF after isn't clear, though I dout it for the reasons stated above.

 

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I know Careys interrogation hints at the GTVA doing brainwashing, but considering how little time passed between Carey giving the real information and the mole giving out the bait, I think Carey still being in the brainwash camp and someone else contacting the UEF through her channels is more likely than her being turned so quickly and completely.

Brainwashing can be done swiftly in the future?  Think about it - advanced sci-fi technology combined with centuries worth of neuroscience and brainwashing research would add up to some rather terrifying potential to do this sort of thing quickly.

 

Offline CT27

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FS1's Alpha 1?

He's in his early to mid 70s. Unless you believe an old man would be monitored by the Council and simultaneously be a sellout.

You think there's a greater chance it's one of the three admirals like the OP guessed?

 

Offline Aesaar

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You think there's a greater chance it's one of the three admirals like the OP guessed?

I didn't say it was any of the Admirals.  They are suspects, though.

It's worth noting that Calder is just as likely as FS1 Alpha 1.  He's also a former GTA officer.

Hmm, he is quite dissatisfied with the Elders, too.
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