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Offline Nuke

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Okay so the crew re-named the Bird of Prey, but that wasn't it's original name.

hardly not as disturbing as what they did with said bird of prey. i mean seriously it has a perfectly good pair of disruptors and a perfectly good torpedo launcher. they should have nuked the whales, not saved them.
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Offline Trivial Psychic

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I wonder if they're gonna retain the no-starting-credits thing of the others.
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http://entertainment.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/11/01/14855446-report-star-wars-7-wont-be-based-on-the-books

No Thrawn trilogy for you.

Hopefully they'll find a way to integrate that character in, though  :nervous:
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Okay so the crew re-named the Bird of Prey, but that wasn't it's original name.

hardly not as disturbing as what they did with said bird of prey. i mean seriously it has a perfectly good pair of disruptors and a perfectly good torpedo launcher. they should have nuked the whales, not saved them.

So went waaay farther back in time and killed all the whales so the probe originators wouldn't have met whales in the first place and sent said probe in the future?
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http://entertainment.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/11/01/14855446-report-star-wars-7-wont-be-based-on-the-books

No Thrawn trilogy for you.

Hopefully they'll find a way to integrate that character in, though  :nervous:

Called it.

I'd be wary if they did try to incorporate other characters (Thrawn, Isard, Jade, etc.) without using the existing materials.  It's more likely than not that they'd get the character wrong, somehow, and even if they didn't it would likely cause a negative reaction in the existing fanbase.

That being said, I really feel like they're going to forsake the IP rights after the first (or perhaps the second) movie.  Rather than try to hang on to the existing (and increasingly jaded) fanbase, they'll try to grab a new, younger audience (like Lucas tried), all the while handing out licenses to produce content like it was candy in a dish (I predict disasters similar to that CD-i series that doesn't exist).

Also, I'm not really sure how the rights work with authors of the expanded universe. Does anyone know?

 

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Also, I'm not really sure how the rights work with authors of the expanded universe. Does anyone know?

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Offline BloodEagle

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Well, that sucks.

  

Offline Luis Dias

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The only two variables that really matter here are 1) the quality of the writing and 2) the quality of its execution.

If it is good writing and it shows, then I'm 100% fine it doesn't have Thrawn. I'm a bit relieved, actually, since that smug know-it-all bastard is annoying to me.

 

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then who would you want as a villain?
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Offline An4ximandros

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Palpatine becomes a ghost and starts possessing people, turns Luke to the darkside, makes a superweapon to destroy the New Republic and is stopped by a gigantic ass pull of a character!

Nah that would make for a way ****ty story.  :doubt: :doubt: :doubt:

 
 

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I hope they take things from a wider aspect than 'Yay! The Jedi are back! Let's go fight things!'. It's kind of odd that they are saying they won't follow the books when, if you think about it, there are large aspects of the books that you simply cannot ignore and still retain some kind of logical view on the New Republic. Luke has no idea of the traditions or History of the Force, and whilst I'm sure the Jedi Academy contains some information for him, he is having to learn to go from a gung-ho Farm hand to the head of a powerful group that were, mostly through negligence and over-procrastination, partly responsible for the Emperor gaining power in the first place.

If you add to the mix the fact that Skywalker is, well, Skywalker, the son of one of the symbols of the Empires terror as well as a Force sensitive, there are really very few people with reason to trust him, and he has very little experience in anything that stands before him.

The books tended to reflect that fact, people made mistakes, misjudged things or misinterpreted things, it helped to give the characters some real depth, I far preferred Zahns' self-doubting Leia, trying to do her best but haunted by the ghost of her own parentage, to the far more self-centric film version.

But then, all that said, it'll probably be a circus show with glowing sticks, I hope for more, but don't expect it.

 

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I read over on Dark Horizons that Lucas already had plans for doing a 7th movie before he announced this massive deal, and he wanted Mark Hamil and Carrie Fisher to be a part of it, so that suggests an appropriate period of time between ROTJ and SW7. 
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Offline Luis Dias

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I hope they take things from a wider aspect than 'Yay! The Jedi are back! Let's go fight things!'. It's kind of odd that they are saying they won't follow the books when, if you think about it, there are large aspects of the books that you simply cannot ignore and still retain some kind of logical view on the New Republic. Luke has no idea of the traditions or History of the Force, and whilst I'm sure the Jedi Academy contains some information for him, he is having to learn to go from a gung-ho Farm hand to the head of a powerful group that were, mostly through negligence and over-procrastination, partly responsible for the Emperor gaining power in the first place.

Yeaaaaaahhh I wouldn't mind a complete retcon of that idiocy at all now that you bring that stuff....

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If you add to the mix the fact that Skywalker is, well, Skywalker, the son of one of the symbols of the Empires terror as well as a Force sensitive, there are really very few people with reason to trust him, and he has very little experience in anything that stands before him.

I'd say that the people who can trust him are the ones who he will have to deal with, since with all honesty I don't see his part being an "Emperor mark II" thing. The Thrawn trilogy is adeptly good at portraying this whole heir thing (to Vader), specially considering Leia's part. The fact that these two brothers did play a massive role in the battle of Endor destroying Death Star mark II, killing both the Emperor and Vader, the fact that they were at the leadership of the rebellion and so on, I think puts down every single doubt that people might have regarding their allegiance...

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The books tended to reflect that fact, people made mistakes, misjudged things or misinterpreted things, it helped to give the characters some real depth, I far preferred Zahns' self-doubting Leia, trying to do her best but haunted by the ghost of her own parentage, to the far more self-centric film version.

Tastes, I guess. I think both are perfectly fine, and Leia kicks ass in Emperor.

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But then, all that said, it'll probably be a circus show with glowing sticks, I hope for more, but don't expect it.

Yeah... sigh...

 

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It would certainly be interesting to see what they can come up with for SW7. I think the prequels were watchable, mostly thanks to Samuel L. Jackson (Palpatine also was quite awesome later on) and battle scenes, but somewhat inferior in quality to OT. It would be interesting to see what they can do without Lucas' meddling. I also wonder what direction they'll go with regards to CGI. OT was quite subdued (mostly due to technology available at the time) and introducing new, flashier weapons would require some creative justification. I'm looking forward to, out of curiosity if nothing else.

 

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I think the prequels were watchable, mostly thanks to Samuel L. Jackson

Oh god no! He was one of the worst things in it!

And I say that as someone who usually loves his stuff.
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Offline Flipside

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The thing is about Samuel L. Jackson, is that whilst I love his character, it has been more or less the same character for the last 8-ish movies. Whether he plays Nick Fury or Mace Windu or anyone else, he is always cast as 'scary, angry black man', because that's the role he does best.

Truth be told, I think Morgan Freeman would have been a better choice. In fact, I could easily see Freeman as Obi-Wan's tutor, he and Alec Guiness are not a million miles apart in temperament ;)

 

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You could have thrown a rock into a crowd of the best known black actors and still have hit a better choice for the role.


Well as long as you didn't hit Will Smith. He's about the only person who would have been a worse choice.
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Offline Luis Dias

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That's pretty harsh. I don't think that Samuel L Jackson was the wrong man at the wrong time there. He was just a victim of really bad directing, writing, etc.

 

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I think you're dead wrong.

You don't cast Samuel L Jackson for the role of the wise old warrior monk for the same reason you don't cast Dame Judy Dench in the role of femme fatal. :p
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