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Wait, did a Vasudan send the transmission from the Pesedjet, or was it Ken?
Having replayed the mission recently, it almost seems like it was a crewmember/spy onboard the GVL Pesedjet that send the transmission to Laporte (and said it was a gift from the enemy of her enemy), rather than Ken. Is it supposed to be ambiguous, or am I just confused?

Oh, and also: in the first Vishnan mission of AoA, one of the Shivan cargo containers (the first of the sequence) says 'He seeks...', without giving any other context about who this 'he' is. Any chance it's Ken/Bosch? 'Cause the Shivans seem to be referred to by the Vishnans as 'she', and your Vishnan wingmates often say 'our sisters are coming' when referring to Vishnan reinforcements....
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Offline MatthTheGeek

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Re: Wait, did a Vasudan send the transmission from the Pesedjet, or was it Ken?
Hum. Last time I checked, the onboard computers of Noémie's fighter aren't Nagari-sensitive. How would Ken have uploaded anything ?
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Re: Wait, did a Vasudan send the transmission from the Pesedjet, or was it Ken?
Hum. Last time I checked, the onboard computers of Noémie's fighter aren't Nagari-sensitive. How would Ken have uploaded anything ?

^This. However, could it be that she hallucinated the whole "upload" scene? And it was Ken after all?
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Re: Wait, did a Vasudan send the transmission from the Pesedjet, or was it Ken?
If she hallucinated the upload scene, then several other people hallucinated analyzing the data.

Oh, and it was very definitely a real transmission sent by very real Vasudans aboard the Pesedjet. Not quite sure how you came to any other conclusion before, because it's definitely not meant to be ambiguous.
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Re: Wait, did a Vasudan send the transmission from the Pesedjet, or was it Ken?
What if... the Psedejet was fake?! :eek:


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Re: Wait, did a Vasudan send the transmission from the Pesedjet, or was it Ken?
What if... the Psedejet was fake?! :eek:

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Re: Wait, did a Vasudan send the transmission from the Pesedjet, or was it Ken?
Then the whole invasion of Sol went off without a hitch?!  Thank goodness for GTVA supremacy...
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Re: Wait, did a Vasudan send the transmission from the Pesedjet, or was it Ken?
Then the whole invasion of Sol went off without a hitch?!  Thank goodness for GTVA supremacy...

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Re: Wait, did a Vasudan send the transmission from the Pesedjet, or was it Ken?
Hum. Last time I checked, the onboard computers of Noémie's fighter aren't Nagari-sensitive. How would Ken have uploaded anything ?

How would the Vishnans have literally hijacked the minds of everyone aboard the GTC Duke for hours straight and operated the ship through rapid intersystem and intrasystem jumps (and point defense)? And sent that coded transmission from the Duke to Sam's fighter?

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Re: Wait, did a Vasudan send the transmission from the Pesedjet, or was it Ken?
For all we know, BP is the last moments in the mind of Alpha 1 before being vaporized by the supernova!

Or Samuel Bei is on a really big Shivan-mushroom trip.

 

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Re: Wait, did a Vasudan send the transmission from the Pesedjet, or was it Ken?
How would the Vishnans have literally hijacked the minds of everyone aboard the GTC Duke for hours straight and operated the ship through rapid intersystem and intrasystem jumps (and point defense)? And sent that coded transmission from the Duke to Sam's fighter?
Oh, I didn't know that, like Noémie's onboard computers, the Duke crew were computers. Because your comparison was totally relevant.
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Re: Wait, did a Vasudan send the transmission from the Pesedjet, or was it Ken?
How would the Vishnans have literally hijacked the minds of everyone aboard the GTC Duke for hours straight and operated the ship through rapid intersystem and intrasystem jumps (and point defense)? And sent that coded transmission from the Duke to Sam's fighter?
Oh, I didn't know that, like Noémie's onboard computers, the Duke crew were computers. Because your comparison was totally relevant.

Erm...what? No, it'd be like the Duke in that a Vasudan (or multiple) were mentally hijacked by Vishnans/Shivans/Ken on the Pesedjet and made to send the transmission to Noemi. Not that he literally hacked her computer.
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Re: Wait, did a Vasudan send the transmission from the Pesedjet, or was it Ken?
From the evidence presented I would lean more toward someone on the Pesedjet doing it of his/her own accord. Ken might not even be real.

 

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Re: Wait, did a Vasudan send the transmission from the Pesedjet, or was it Ken?
Oh please. We know it's Bosch now.





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Re: Wait, did a Vasudan send the transmission from the Pesedjet, or was it Ken?
From the evidence presented I would lean more toward someone on the Pesedjet doing it of his/her own accord. Ken might not even be real.

So...wait, what kind of Vasudan would consider the GTVA his/her enemy? And why? The language used seems to suggest direct animosity towards the GTVA, not just sympathy for the UEF.
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Re: Wait, did a Vasudan send the transmission from the Pesedjet, or was it Ken?
"The enemies of your enemy".

Who said the Tevs were the enemy ?
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Re: Wait, did a Vasudan send the transmission from the Pesedjet, or was it Ken?
Well it's an inference you can make simply by the fact that Ken wants you to destroy the GTVA, and he also encourages Noemi to accept the data. This implies Ken knows about the data's contents and wants her to have it, which means he either is behind the data transmission or simply approves of it. Either way, the only motive we know of that Ken has is the destruction of the GTVA, so when he pushes her to accept the data we naturally assume it's because it'll help Ken achieve that goal.

Of course it could be a red herring, but until we know more it's all speculation anyways.

 

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Re: Wait, did a Vasudan send the transmission from the Pesedjet, or was it Ken?
I always got the impression that Ken wants to get one faction destroyed, not really caring which side wins, as long as it's a decisive win with one side being annihilated.
With Neomi being a UEF pilot and a believer (although somewhat shaky at the end of WiH1 I suppose) of Ubuntu, trying to save the UEF by destroying the GTVA was just the obvious anthill for her choose.