[Kamikaze]

http://www.wired.com/news/digiwood/0,1412,53220,00.html

this could help create a bunch of games with cool shading techniques, I hope

[an0n]

Ooh-hoo.

[Blitz_Lightning]

Unfortunately, its gonna take a while for it to become mainstream. I can just hear it. "Sigh. Another stupid language to learn."

[Styxx]

Sounds cool, gotta check it out.

* runs off to learn it *

[wEvil]

So...3Dlabs and Matrox release better DX9 parts and then Nvidia tries to knobble them by bringing out a proprietry language.

Goddamn that company really piss me off, I hope they drown in red tape!!

[an0n]

Microsoft bashing, fair enough, Windows is ****. But nVidia's stuff is actually quite good. As much as this is an attempt to force "nVidia or nuthin" it will inevitably mean better graphics and better games coming from low-budget companies. Besides, if it helps crush DX and stiffles MS's profits, more power to 'em.

[Nico]

plus it seems it's available for everybody, so I don't see anything wrong with it. If it's as good as they say, well, it could be a little revolution for videogames...

[wEvil]

Originally posted by an0n
Microsoft bashing, fair enough, Windows is ****. But nVidia's stuff is actually quite good. As much as this is an attempt to force "nVidia or nuthin" it will inevitably mean better graphics and better games coming from low-budget companies. Besides, if it helps crush DX and stiffles MS's profits, more power to 'em.

Actually windows is quite stable (if they'd only make a decent SDK)

This will not mean better games and certainly won't make better graphics, maybe you're not aware of what a monopoly Nvidia is becoming in the market?

I'm not a directX fan either (i'm far more openGL inclined)

[an0n]

If nVidia get a monopoly then they can concentrate on making better cards as opposed to competing with others.

Windows is crap.

I'd rather see nVidia with a monopoly and running the 3d market into the ground than see MS getting money/fame/control through DX.

[wEvil]

Originally posted by an0n
I'd rather see nVidia with a monopoly and running the 3d market into the ground than see MS getting money/fame/control through DX.

Everyone knows directX is a cranky toy API compared to openGL.

i'd rather get spit roasted for a month in death valley than see nvidia get a monopoly.

[Styxx]

Originally posted by an0n
If nVidia get a monopoly then they can concentrate on making better cards as opposed to competing with others.

Just like MS concentrates on making a better operating system right now?

[Kellan]

Originally posted by Styxx

Just like MS concentrates on making a better operating system right now?

ROFL.

[Nico]

Originally posted by an0n
If nVidia get a monopoly then they can concentrate on making better cards as opposed to competing with others.

yeah right. you know you improve your stuff only when there's competition, right?
oh well, never mind.

[Zeronet]

Originally posted by Styxx


Just like MS concentrates on making a better operating system right now?

Nothing rivals Win Xp, trust me its uber stable and uber cool.

[an0n]

Originally posted by venom2506
yeah right. you know you improve your stuff only when there's competition, right?
oh well, never mind.

All competition does is force companies to keep going one better, making something just that little bit faster than the other persons. It kills innovation. If nVidia could divert it's marketing budget to research they might find a new, completely opposed to the norm way of rendering that is a million times faster.

[Styxx]

Originally posted by an0n
All competition does is force companies to keep going one better, making something just that little bit faster than the other persons. It kills innovation. If nVidia could divert it's marketing budget to research they might find a new, completely opposed to the norm way of rendering that is a million times faster.

Yeah, sure. Or they can just sit on their asses and swim on all the money they'll get, because there won't be any other card on the market. What would be the point of investing if you're already making all the money you can make?

[Nico]

if nvidia had a monopoly status, they'd release a new version of the same card every year, and increase the prices. Just like what 3dfx did. period.

[Eternal One]

Originally posted by an0n

All competition does is force companies to keep going one better, making something just that little bit faster than the other persons. It kills innovation. If nVidia could divert it's marketing budget to research they might find a new, completely opposed to the norm way of rendering that is a million times faster.

Competition kills innovation? Now that's an odd theory

[IceFire]

For sure...thats like saying that butter won't melt in an oven

(bizzar analogy too )

Competition typically drives prices lower and forces innovation.  Its do or die and it makes people take risks.  Right now Microsoft takes so few risks in the operating system market because they have it all basically.  They have little to compete with right now....I hope to god that someone has the insight to show them up on their doorstep with a MS OS compatible system that is just as easy to use.  That'd be great.

nVidia still has ATI as its chief competitor and with the new cards from Matrox and 3D Labs showing up they won't have time to sit on their laurels anytime soon.

And there is nothing in that article that says or indicates to me that nVidia or MS is trying to corner the market.  Two key things:

- Cg works with DirectX 9 AND OpenGL
- Cg works with nVidia and non nVidia cards

Thats pretty free flowing!  Right there.  Now tell me how they corner the market that way?

[Blitz_Lightning]

Well, really, its quite interesting to compare the economics in America and other western countries compared to Japan... In Japan, they don't have any restrictions on mergers, monopolies, etc... And their system seems to be very sucessful