Author Topic: [ot] ~minority Report~ (Read 4218 times)

Stealth · **on:** June 21, 2002, 11:53:37 pm

Has anyone seen that movie yet?

It came out in the USA on Friday, did anyone see it?

Was the not one of the coolest movies? the effects and storyline were awesome!!!!

Styxx · **Reply #1 on:** June 22, 2002, 12:31:26 pm

Nope, it's not out here yet, what's it about? Any link?

phreak · **Reply #2 on:** June 22, 2002, 01:11:43 pm

its about a future society that can predict crimes before they happen and the person who perfected this system (Tom Cruise) is arrested for murder 36 hours before it occurs

Styxx · **Reply #3 on:** June 22, 2002, 01:19:30 pm

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Originally posted by PhReAk
its about a future society that can predict crimes before they happen and the person who perfected this system (Tom Cruise) is arrested for murder 36 hours before it occurs

Eh, weird.

Zeronet · **Reply #4 on:** June 22, 2002, 01:57:08 pm

Time Travel, they go back in time to prevent murders, by smashing the glass and invading in large numbers to stop it happening, must mess the timeline up a lot.

an0n · **Reply #5 on:** June 22, 2002, 01:58:19 pm

Poor tabloids. They'd have nothing decent to write about.

aldo_14 · **Reply #6 on:** June 22, 2002, 04:26:11 pm

That makes no sense whatsoever....

if you arrest someone for a murder they will commit in the future, they cannot commit that murder. Thus, they cannot be guilty of murder, and should not have been arrested in the first place as that murder never happened. but if they are not arrested, then the murder occurs. But the murder can only occur if they are not arrested, which is impossible if they can predict and prevent the murder................

Ugh. See - daft premise.

Zeronet · **Reply #7 on:** June 22, 2002, 05:28:35 pm

by arresting the ppl they stop the murder, end of story.

CP5670 · **Reply #8 on:** June 22, 2002, 05:56:55 pm

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if you arrest someone for a murder they will commit in the future, they cannot commit that murder. Thus, they cannot be guilty of murder, and should not have been arrested in the first place as that murder never happened. but if they are not arrested, then the murder occurs. But the murder can only occur if they are not arrested, which is impossible if they can predict and prevent the murder................

The good old causal paradox...

Zeronet · **Reply #9 on:** June 22, 2002, 06:20:04 pm

I always believed if you travelled back in time, you created a parrellel universe, thus if you changed anything it wouldnt affect you.

Alikchi · **Reply #10 on:** June 22, 2002, 06:22:18 pm

You don't travel back in time in the movie.

Oh, and - I just saw it. Kick. ASS.

Kellan · **Reply #11 on:** June 23, 2002, 08:35:25 am

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Originally posted by Zeronet
by arresting the ppl they stop the murder, end of story.

That's their attitude in the movie, and why they allow it to continue. From what I've seen in the trailers, at least.

aldo_14 · **Reply #12 on:** June 23, 2002, 09:34:51 am

My point is, you can't be arrested of a crime if it never happens.

Stealth · **Reply #13 on:** June 23, 2002, 10:34:17 am

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Originally posted by aldo_14
That makes no sense whatsoever....

if you arrest someone for a murder they will commit in the future, they cannot commit that murder. Thus, they cannot be guilty of murder, and should not have been arrested in the first place as that murder never happened. but if they are not arrested, then the murder occurs. But the murder can only occur if they are not arrested, which is impossible if they can predict and prevent the murder................

Ugh. See - daft premise.

But that's the whole point of the movie, the government is going to shut the society down, and Tom Cruise believes it's wrong, because all the people they arrest are innocent, they haven't done anything yet!

However, when the system says that he's committed a murder, he knows it's not wrong, cause in 36 hours ehe's supposed to kill a man he's never met

Stealth · **Reply #14 on:** June 23, 2002, 10:34:52 am

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Originally posted by Zeronet
Time Travel, they go back in time to prevent murders, by smashing the glass and invading in large numbers to stop it happening, must mess the timeline up a lot.

They don't travel in time... they simply travel to where a murder's going to take place, and stop it!

Stealth · **Reply #15 on:** June 23, 2002, 10:48:52 am

If any of you can't wait, here's a spoiler (highlight):

SPOILER AHEAD:

It's 2058 (i think) and there's a society called 'Precrime'... they have these three people, that they keep asleep, but not too asleep (so they don't dream) in this special room called the 'Temple'... these people are special, because they can see the future. They're kept alive and they're in water with all this stuff on their head and all to the society can see what they see.
The images they produce is fed through the computer, and in turn the computer predicts the Victim and Murderer (which are printed on red balls) Then Tom Cruise goes to work trying to find out the location of the murder from what he sees in the pictures, or from what the PRECOGs (the three people in the water) see.

When he finds the murder, they fly out to the scene of the murder, and a few seconds before the murder takes place, they arrest the person for the 'future murder' of whoever...

The system works well, until one agent sent by the government comes to look for flaws... he believes it's not right to arrest someone if they haven't physically committed any murder yet! then a few days later a new murder comes in from the precogs that have predicted it... Tom Cruise can't believe it, because in the pictures, it's him shooting someone!!! Then the system turns on him, and he runs away (a couple of good fight/run scenes follow

lol)

He finds the creator of the system, an old (and very weird woman) who says that she used to work in a clinic that took care of children of drug-addicts. She said that some of them, the very special ones, would dream only of murders, and so therefore would always wake up at night screaming! She said she found out that those few that survived only saw future murders. She found a way to get the images from their brain, and then started the precrime society, in which three Precogs (one female, two male) are in a tank of water, all monitored and stuff, and fed and looked after, but they're always drugged and kept asleep.

She said that occasionally, one in a million times, the precogs will see something, but one of them won't. In this case, when all three don't predict the same thing, it's called a 'minority report' and it's immediately dismissed. Tom Cruise believes this is a minority report, because the two male precogs can't see the future without the female precog, Agatha... so he goes to kidnap Agatha, (which he does, after getting an eye transplant so his retina scans will identify him as someone else) and he kidnaps Agatha, who can't really tell him anything. In the end he finds the man he's supposed to kill, who happens to be the man who killed his son when he was 7 (i think)... Tom Cruise tries not to kill the man, but in the end the man trips or something, and the gun just goes off.

Then he runs again

Then he figures everything out, and ... oh... the end i really didn't understand that much

lol

lol
just thought someone might not want to see the movie, might want to read a spoiler instead

icespeed · **Reply #16 on:** June 24, 2002, 02:18:37 am

aint come out in aus yet, but it looks really really cool... tom cruise is cool...

Nico · **Reply #17 on:** June 24, 2002, 03:30:38 am

ah, girls, girls...

Blitz_Lightning · **Reply #18 on:** June 24, 2002, 05:30:10 am

I don't suppose this movie has much talking about how this "crime prediction" works? Yawn... and anyway, if someone perfected predicting crime, what else would they be able to do rather than crime prediction?

Kellan · **Reply #19 on:** June 24, 2002, 09:27:08 am

Factoid: the story is loosely based on Philip K. Dick's novel A Scanner Darkly, in which an undercover drugs agent is asked to arrest himself for drug dealing. It's complicated...

Still, it's not as good as his other works. Yes, I guess I am a DickHead...

EDIT: Oh, and only specialised people can predict crime. They're like seers or something - genetic mutuation of some sort, I'd imagine. But the moview isn't out until July 4th here, when I am away over there, in America.

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