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Offline MP-Ryan

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Offline Luis Dias

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Re: I really hope 'Argo' doesn't win a single Oscar...
Old news. I also hope this, and I wish Ben Affleck would be slapped many times in his face. He should have known better.

 

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Re: I really hope 'Argo' doesn't win a single Oscar...
Controversially switching characters' nationalities or roles or whatever they did might lead to a lot more people watching the documentary and learning the actual story than would have happened if they hadn't pissed off Canada. It's a pretty good strategy for getting the buzz restarted, IMO. I heard Ben Affleck was totally oblivious about the issue when making the movie, but it might indirectly end up being the reason they win. Probably not, but it is publicity.

 

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Re: I really hope 'Argo' doesn't win a single Oscar...
will people ever stop getting upset about hollywood movies being historically inaccurate? 
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Re: I really hope 'Argo' doesn't win a single Oscar...
Only if we destroy Hollywood.

Seriously though it is rather silly to ask at what point people will stop getting angry about being insulted.
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Offline NGTM-1R

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Re: I really hope 'Argo' doesn't win a single Oscar...
will people ever stop getting upset about hollywood movies being historically inaccurate?

This is a bad question. You might as well ask when people will stop being offended when told lies.
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Offline Davros

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Re: I really hope 'Argo' doesn't win a single Oscar...
Hey everyone knows the u.s did everything good single handedly like win world war 2 and capture the enigma machine
just like it was told in that famous documentary Churchill: The Hollywood Years
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0359078/

 

Offline Al-Rik

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Nothing spoils a good story more than the truth, so avoid it as much as possible.

And I'm quite contend that the Canadian Ambassador is right about Persian hospitality, didn't tell the hostages the same about their captors ? ;)

  

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Re: I really hope 'Argo' doesn't win a single Oscar...
Tricky one.

I hate people messing with history. So I'll also take the "hope it crashes and burns" mentality as an initial reaction in cases like this. On the other hand, what if someone turns in a stunning individual performance? Or the effects crew wows with their work? Should they be screwed out of their accolade just because the film they were in is questionable?

As long as you don't portray something as factual, it's okay. Weave a story that was inspired by actual history, but don't let it be known what that inspiration was, make it a completely different story. Or make a straight up alternate history story that doesn't make ay pretenses about being a true stroy. I like alternate history stories a lot myself, change one little thing and open up a huge can of worms.

I can also get annoyed when they leave out "inconvenient" things. You know, like you'll have this great hero, but let's not mention that time he beat his daughter half to death in a drunken rage one night, and let's gloss over where he executed that prisoner just because he spat on his shoe. Let's keep his image squeaky clean. Just made that stuff up, but you get the idea I'm sure.

 

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Re: I really hope 'Argo' doesn't win a single Oscar...
Why oh why am I suddenly reminded of "U-571"... :)
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Re: I really hope 'Argo' doesn't win a single Oscar...
Why oh why am I suddenly reminded of "U-571"... :)

Yeah, that was awful too.
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Offline General Battuta

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Re: I really hope 'Argo' doesn't win a single Oscar...
Ewan MacGregor's character in Black Hawk Down conducted the same actions as a real person present at Bakara, but wasn't actually that person - he was a fictional composite slapped in as a replacement because the real guy, despite his combat heroism, turned out to be a pedophile a few years later.

 

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Re: I really hope 'Argo' doesn't win a single Oscar...
Ewan MacGregor's character in Black Hawk Down conducted the same actions as a real person present at Bakara, but wasn't actually that person - he was a fictional composite slapped in as a replacement because the real guy, despite his combat heroism, turned out to be a pedophile a few years later.

That's kind of a minor thing compared to the way the whole fight was portrayed; American shooting gallery and all. Parvez Musharraf for example complained about how the movie minimized the role of Pakistani soldiers, likewise did the then-commander of the Malaysian forces in regard to the Malaysian forces.

Ultimately, I think movies like this are good, because while they contain glaring inaccuracies, they still manage to inform. I remember watching Blackhawk Down when I was younger, and how that led to me actually reading about Somalia and its bloody history from the Italian occupation up to Siad Barre's dictatorship.

 

Offline swashmebuckle

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Re: I really hope 'Argo' doesn't win a single Oscar...
Public opinion is turning against the non-fiction nominees! Maybe the history buff vote will turn to Django?!?

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/17/opinion/sunday/dowd-the-oscar-for-best-fabrication.html?hp&_r=1&

 

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Re: I really hope 'Argo' doesn't win a single Oscar...
the oscars is an arts award. not an acedemic award, so i kinda disagree with the thread title. its a movie ive yet to see, and the fact that it embellishes the facts, doesn't dissuade me from wanting to see it. if i wanted the facts id watch a documentary and not a movie, even then i would question those facts.
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Re: I really hope 'Argo' doesn't win a single Oscar...
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Offline General Battuta

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Re: I really hope 'Argo' doesn't win a single Oscar...
lol

 

Offline Luis Dias

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Bam.

 

Offline StarSlayer

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Re: I really hope 'Argo' doesn't win a single Oscar...
So NBC news recently had a story on the "historical" movies not matching reality.  I figured they might be acknowledging that Argo shafted the contributions of our hockey playing northern brethren.  "For example this car chase on the airfield from Argo didn't occur."


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The car chase didn't occur.

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Offline Lorric

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I was eating my tea and watching the news, and saw this won Best Picture. Now that's somewhat old news, but what gave me a little chuckle was the analyst saying words to the effect of how it won because there was something for everyone and there was nothing offensive about the film, how everyone could like it and did like it. He didn't read this thread!  :D