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This Deimos is wearing a funny hat (Version 2)


Hi! I'm a Deimos!



I'm a Deimos too! But I'm wearing a funny hat! But I am a better Deimos.



Because I can Launch mother ****ing fighters.



Proof of concept *****es. Have at it.

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Re: This Deimos is wearing a funny hat
OK, so that first post isn;t particularly informative. But it's late. So sue me.

This is a proof of concept for a dockable deimos fighterbay. I emphasize proof of concept, because it's very obviously a dodgy model, dodgy texture (tga at that with no normals or shine map). If there's call for it, I'll improve the overall model and textures. Otherwise, I'll wait for the new HTL deimos and see how that goes. In either case, it might be useful for FREDders for the moment, although I will again emphasize this is a proof of concept and has barely been tested.

So, how to use it. Dock it to your deimos using either dock, just make sure left docks to left or right docks to right. Destroy turrets 1 and 2 on the deimos, they're under the fighterbay. You might want to use some clever FREDding to ensure that both the deimos and the fighterbay stay at the same hitpoints (I would suggest a repeating event that constantly gives both the min of their two hull percentages), and you may want to make the bay stealthy. Up to you.

Oh, and my table may not work outside of my modkit. If so, it's because I've used the "Modular" flag. Change that to cruiser or something and it should be fine.
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Re: This Deimos is wearing a funny hat
 An intriguing concept, but why not just make a new model that keep the general shape of the Deimos. With the addition of a hangar bay or pod?

 

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Because then it won' be a modular poof-of-concept and would mostly be duplicated? I think proof-of-concept is the important part.

I like the idea. Adding packs to existing ships gives them a bit more flair and personality. :)

 

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Sweet! All that is left now is a modular fighter ;-D
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Could be useful if Homesick ever gets a face-lift.
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Re: This Deimos is wearing a funny hat
An intriguing concept, but why not just make a new model that keep the general shape of the Deimos. With the addition of a hangar bay or pod?

So many reasons. One, we already have the Arpyia, which is exactly that. Secondly, corvettes with fighterbays are old news. We've had them since retail (the Moloch). No need for a proof of concept there. Thirdly, that's a tonne more effort. I put this together in a few hours as a testbed, a new corvette would have taken me months with my current modding schedule. And finally, and most importantly:

Because then it won' be a modular poof-of-concept and would mostly be duplicated? I think proof-of-concept is the important part.

I like the idea. Adding packs to existing ships gives them a bit more flair and personality. :)

The idea here isn't so much "Deimos with a fighterbay", although if I tidy up this model and texture it properly, that's a pretty damned cool (and useful) piece of kit, IMO. But the real idea here is modular components for capital ships. I mean, why stop with only a Deimos with a fighterbay? Why not a  Fenris with a cargo collar? Or a Sobek with an AWACS module? Or bolt on subsystem armour that has to be destroyed before you can hit the susbsytemas below directly? Or even simple aesthetic changes made to ships to visually distinguish individuals from one another? All of these are possible, and there are practical uses for all of them, and plenty more to boot.
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Re: This Deimos is wearing a funny hat
So perhaps a modular component that is extra thrusters, and when these thrusters are added it increases base speed?
Or is that too tricky?
I do see the idea thought.
If you have a modular component of a high powered beam rifle that you would like your Deimos to attach to in the midst of battle for a little extra firepower that would add some depth to missions.
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Re: This Deimos is wearing a funny hat
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Because then it won' be a modular poof-of-concept and would mostly be duplicated? I think proof-of-concept is the important part.

I like the idea. Adding packs to existing ships gives them a bit more flair and personality. :)

The idea here isn't so much "Deimos with a fighterbay", although if I tidy up this model and texture it properly, that's a pretty damned cool (and useful) piece of kit, IMO. But the real idea here is modular components for capital ships. I mean, why stop with only a Deimos with a fighterbay? Why not a  Fenris with a cargo collar? Or a Sobek with an AWACS module? Or bolt on subsystem armour that has to be destroyed before you can hit the susbsytemas below directly? Or even simple aesthetic changes made to ships to visually distinguish individuals from one another? All of these are possible, and there are practical uses for all of them, and plenty more to boot.

I'd definitely love to see modular enhancements for existing ships, in the way that you just described. The potential for such enhancements, story and gameplay wise, is incredible. I hope this idea can and will be pursued!
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Re: This Deimos is wearing a funny hat
I would like to see some kind of weapons platform ships could dock with giving them a little bit of extra firepower.

There could be a flak platform for ships escorting convoys
Beam platforms for ship to ship sorties
aaa beams for anti bomber support
etc.

I might try working on something like this.
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Re: This Deimos is wearing a funny hat
I had an idea, and even a couple of models with several sets of modular components each for a GTVA corvette and cruiser, years ago. But I'm bad at modeling, so it never went anywhere.

I thus wholeheartedly support this and any further development towards a dedicated modular design that's dockable.
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Re: This Deimos is wearing a funny hat
Dockable beam cannons on a Deimos can be achieved with a Mjolnir docked to an Argo docked to a Deimos, and another on the other side of the Deimos. Remove the spinny bits on the mjolnirs.

Looks pretty awesome to boot.

 

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Re: This Deimos is wearing a funny hat
Slight update. I've decided not to spend any more time on this particular ship - it's functional, and looks... reasonably good docked to Bobb's deimos, but there's a new Deimos in the works which will need a new custom model. I'll make an effort for that model. :p

I intend to pursue the idea of modular addons, and probably will, eventually. But for right now, this wont be a priority. Of course, they can be very simple models, and I'd be very pleased to see someone else take up the idea. Otherwise, just wait awhile and I'll probably make some more. :)

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Re: This Deimos is wearing a funny hat (Version 2)
Might I try one for the extra turret platform kind of thing,
I am kind of stuck on my other project and I need to do something with my freetime in addition to hitting my head against the wall.
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