[Black_Yoshi1230]

*raises hands in exasperation*

I'm not going to argue. I kinda grew up on handheld a bit more than console, so I don't have much of a valid say.

[deathfun]

CONSOLES ARE ONLY FOR FILTHY CASUALS

GLORIOUS PC GAMING MASTER RACE PRO GAMURRRR

Glorious having-every-system-at-his-disposal!
Though, technically the Wii is an emulator

[BlueFlames]

You know what?  I like my N64.  I don't care that it has grossly inferior specs, as compared to modern hardware.  I don't care that it had somewhat inferior specs, as compared to many of its contemporary competitors.  I don't care that the controller requires three hands to fully utilize, where its competitors and modern systems were designed by people with two hands, for people with two hands.  When I was twelve, the N64 was the exclusive platform of the games that I wanted to play, and when I want to nostalgically replay some of those games, I'm quite happy to still have the original hardware available for that purpose.

I also like Windows 98 as a gaming platform.  I don't care that it had a lot of problems with a lot of hardware, particularly in its early days.  I don't care that it was already becoming bloated, as compared to many contemporary, competing operating systems.  I don't care that it wasn't designed specifically for the purpose of gaming.  When I was fifteen, the games I wanted to play were principally designed for PCs running Windows 98, and I'm kind of kicking myself for not keeping a legacy box from the era to properly run games that don't cooperate with newer versions of Windows, newer hardware, and/or newer drivers.

If you say that you like one gaming platform over another because of its spec sheet or what will ultimately prove to be minute differences in graphical fidelity, and it's not because your paycheck demands that you develop on these platforms, then you're a liar.  You have become emotionally invested in the success or failure of one gaming platform or another, and you will desperately grab at whatever straw you can use as a rationalization for your fanboyism.  It's quite obnoxious and a little disgusting.

I like my gaming PC.  The games I want to play are typically released for the PC.  If you feel that the PS4 library will be better targetted to your desires as a gamer, then get a PS4.  If you feel that your game-related desires will be better fulfilled by the PC, during the next console generation, then stick with the PC.  Whichever choice you make, though, try not to be a ****ing douchebag about it. 

[CommanderDJ]

If you say that you like one gaming platform over another because of its spec sheet or what will ultimately prove to be minute differences in graphical fidelity, and it's not because your paycheck demands that you develop on these platforms, then you're a liar.  You have become emotionally invested in the success or failure of one gaming platform or another, and you will desperately grab at whatever straw you can use as a rationalization for your fanboyism.  It's quite obnoxious and a little disgusting.

I like my gaming PC.  The games I want to play are typically released for the PC.  If you feel that the PS4 library will be better targetted to your desires as a gamer, then get a PS4.  If you feel that your game-related desires will be better fulfilled by the PC, during the next console generation, then stick with the PC.  Whichever choice you make, though, try not to be a ****ing douchebag about it. 

Agree with this 100%. I'd been trying to form words to the effect of this in my head so I could post them, but you've said it better than I could.

[Nuke]

thats nice to know. console game development have always stayed as close to the bare metal as possible to squeeze every drop of performance out of the system. when combined with hardware that is actually faster than pc you might actually get better looking games on a console than you can get on a pc. unfortunately i tend to frown on the closedness of consoles and probibly wont get one.

Let's see how that 500$ console compares to a proper 1500-3000$ gaming PC before getting excited.

Then ... 1-2 years later... let's see how appeals that same console is next to that same PC... that now costs less than half as before lol.


The whole point of consoles is low price mass market penetration. Whatever quality advantage they may attain, if they ever attain any at all, will always be short term and limited to the budget segment.

of course i dont expect it to last, and by the time it does come out i would have upgraded again anyway.

[redsniper]

Platform wars... nerd rage... your way of having fun is wrong, my way is the best... What a terrible thread.

[Luis Dias]

The point of consoles is that it offers a sub-priced overall "good" machine that is standartized and to which developers can optimize to the infinitesimal part on gameplay and graphics. No such environment really exists on the PC world, where devs must consider every hardware system quirk, every OS quirk, antivirus behavior and every single thing that may slow down or impair the gaming experience, and then develop more or less for the worst common denominator.

There has been an impressive progress on graphical achievements on consoles despite the stalled hardware specs. What it meant was that the software is still an extremely important part on what a given hardware can do or not. I think this importance hasn't decayed anything the last few years, and now that the devs are given a complete new hardware, a lot of improvement is still hidden behind a ton of work in the years to come from geniuses buried inside game engine development offices.

[Luis Dias]

For those who missed the 140 minute ****show, a proper summary:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rJDn0jRnUQ

[deathfun]

Call of Battlefield: Duty in Modern Honor Warfare Halos wave

HAAHAAAHAAHA
That's so awesome

Also, the abridged version is pretty hilarious too. Although, I wouldn't call it a ****show

I've never heard of Journey.

Well given you haven't really heard much of the indie scene, not surprising
Still, you're missing out on ridiculously fun and interesting games

I'm just not keen on one man army type games.

Alpha 1! Destroy the Sathanas with that wrench!
Okay so I may have exaggerated your point a little bit, but what game doesn't make the player a one man killing machine?

GRAW2 on One shot death difficulty comes to mind actually

[Spoon]

Modern Military Shooters in a nutshell
You cannot deny that the industry has changed for the worse when it comes to FPS.

[An4ximandros]

I'll just leave this here.

[Nuke]

you know for the longest time i had been uninterested in games. then came kerbal space program.

also i went back and played super mario world. i kept getting killed by koopas. modern games have made me soft.

[Klaustrophobia]

ah yes, games before the player was armed...

[deathfun]

you know for the longest time i had been uninterested in games. then came kerbal space program.

also i went back and played super mario world. i kept getting killed by koopas. modern games have made me soft.

The portal edition of Mario was ****ing awesome

Modern Military Shooters in a nutshell
You cannot deny that the industry has changed for the worse when it comes to FPS.

That video is hilarious and so very true

[Mongoose]

Take a look at his full video review of the game.  It's stunning that something in that shape was allowed to come to market...or at least I would say that if Colonial Marines hadn't just done the same.

[TwentyPercentCooler]

I'll reserve my judgment about the actual hardware, but watching the marketers crap out buzzword after buzzword without actually saying anything was a sight to behold. As far as the console...eh, I'd say zero ****s were given, but, since I'm here posting about it I'll have to revise that figure to about half of a ****. I've accepted the fact that I am no longer in the primary demographic for mainstream titles, and I doubt there'd be anything on the PS4 that would coax me into buying it. Especially if they try to shovel "social networking" BS in there. The younger generations can have their consoles (and then get off my lawn), and I'll just be happy with my PC and all the awesome indie games and mods...and the fact that it actually performs other functions.

The whole cost argument kinda makes me chuckle, though. A console will always be a console. We tried to have Linux on the PS3 and Sony said "lolnope, u mad bruhs?" It's kind of disingenuous to try and make a direct comparison between a device that only does one or two things, like play games and blu-ray movies, and a general-purpose PC. There's really not much overlap between the two, both in capabilities and in general attitude. I see consoles like I see Mac OS: they're for people who don't want to have to potentially screw around with a lot of stuff before it will do what they want it to do. And that is perfectly okay.

[Nuke]

im curious how they managed to make all that computing goodness work without being attached to massive arrays of fans.

[yuezhi]

subspace heatsinks.

[An4ximandros]

 Reverse engineered Shivan tech?

[deathfun]

The lack of a black box to rally around following the intriguing PS4 launch event on Wednesday had left some expectant console enthusiasts feeling a little jibbed, despite a raft of announcements regarding specs, launch titles, social features and a brand new DualShock 4 controller.

Following the backlash, Sony claimed it was going for the slow reveal in order to keep our interests piqued, but did not say exactly when the hardware would go on show.

http://www.t3.com/news/sony-confirms-ps4-console-reveal-coming-at-e3-or-sooner

I personally am looking forward to this years E3. Generally I don't care all that much since as of late it hasn't been all that interesting. With this new tech on the rise, I'm wondering just how much we'll get to see

Thoughts?