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Offline Al-Rik

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Re: Shell Sees Solar as Biggest Energy Source After Exiting It
Why do people always assume that solar=photovoltaic?
thermal tower technology has been proved at much larger scales, and some of the plant being planned now are of the same power output as the smaller conventional power stations (100-200MW). Their more interesting features include being able to store power in the workings of the plant itself, to the extent of storing around 1/3rd of the the power they produce, and then releasing that power during the night. Of course, they still rely on clear skies, which is  major disadvantage.

Another disadvantage is that thermal towers needs a lot of capital. So only big greedy cooperations are able to build and maintain them, cooperations what only want to make profit.
But everyone who has around 12.000 to 20.000 €uros and owns a house with a sunny roof can build a photovoltaic plant. He doesn't even have to make profit, because the electricity he produces will be heavy substituted by the consumer.
 
The same applies to wind farming.  Everyone who has 1000 -10.000 €uros can buy a share on a wind mill. And because the small windmills on hills are owned by shareholders that are ordinary citizens whose small windmills are much better than the big ones in the sea what can only be build from big, greedy cooperations.

And because nobody likes big greedy cooperations who only want to make profit, there is no alternative to private photovoltaic plants on the roof of the homes of the rich and successful ;)

 

Offline BloodEagle

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Re: Shell Sees Solar as Biggest Energy Source After Exiting It
Didn't someone make non-photovoltaic strips that were relatively cheap?  And didn't someone make some kind of solar-power paint?

 

Offline Klaustrophobia

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Re: Shell Sees Solar as Biggest Energy Source After Exiting It
 :wtf:
I like to stare at the sun.

 

Offline Luis Dias

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Re: Shell Sees Solar as Biggest Energy Source After Exiting It
It's actually true and true, IIRC. The problem of those are their own very low efficiencies, on the order of 1 percentage point. That's radically bad.

 
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Re: Shell Sees Solar as Biggest Energy Source After Exiting It
Critical?  Yes.  Necessary?  Absolutely.  In fact I would go so far as to say Graphene Supercapacitors alone make our current economy possible. :drevil:

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Offline Nuke

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Re: Shell Sees Solar as Biggest Energy Source After Exiting It
ultracapacitors are insane:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EoWMF3VkI6U

i can see them eventually taking over the battery market. especially with their long life capabilities. they are a tad heavier for the same power and capacity than batteries, but who cares. devices are getting too small to be used comfortably anyway. higher rates of self discharge might be an issue though.
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Offline Aardwolf

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Re: Shell Sees Solar as Biggest Energy Source After Exiting It
* Aardwolf likes flywheels, and thinks more people should be talking about flywheels

Also, RE: that comment earlier where I said solar cells can pay for themselves fast: that was me repeating something my dad told me, and apparently repeating it wrong. But he doesn't even remember the original thing, so bleh.