[achtung]

HAPPENING

Let's celebrate!

South Korean workers have also been banned from entering Kaesong.

[General Battuta]

I'm having a hard time deciding how seriously to take this and it's really damaging my calm

[headdie]

yep

as I was saying to a mate on FB when this got going, its a case of kiddo wants to fill daddy's shoes and dont know the rules yet, give it a few years of "oh shut the **** up" from the US, Russia and China and he will start behaving as like his dad he actually has no power atm to actually DO anything beyond sabre rattle.  In real terms all it is doing is making good TV and radio for his people.

[Mobius]

Come on North Korea, today's April 3rd.

[headdie]

Come on North Korea, today's April 3rd.

lol

[Gloriano]

I trough young Kim would been much better than his father but seems like a total craziness is on family. I just hope they don't do anything they would just hurt their own people

[An4ximandros]

The moment of explosion is approaching fast.

[Flipside]

To be honest, as pathological a bunch of fruitballs as the family may be, this probably isn't the doing of Kim Jong Un any more than previous actions were the actions of Kim Jong Il, give them shiny baubles to look at and it'll keep them quiet for hours. No, the problem in North Korea, I feel, is the military itself. I think that Kim Il Sung had the military firmly in his grasp, but since that point, the descendents of that family have become little more than puppets for a military junta.

THAT is the situation North Korea faces, the only way the military can justify its huge power and influence is to convince the rest of the country that they live permanently under threat of invasion and war, if things are going to get even tougher, then much better to create a spectre of military intervention and blame it on those 'damn foreigners'.

[Mongoose]

I don't know of any sane way to resolve this, but there has to be some means of putting that whackjob administration out of the world's collective misery.

[General Battuta]

I don't know of any sane way to resolve this, but there has to be some means of putting that whackjob administration out of the world's collective misery.

It's tricky to find an avenue that does not lead to massive suffering on the part of North Korea's (and probably South Korea's) people.

[headdie]

I don't know of any sane way to resolve this, but there has to be some means of putting that whackjob administration out of the world's collective misery.

short of a sea launched cruise missile during some public military parade should ensure he is in a predictable location. Then I would say no.

As to why that is a bad idea see General Battuta's post as such a strike would probably cripple government services which would be really bad.

[Nuke]

nuke 'em!

[Apollo]

While this is almost certainly more sabre-rattling, the sheer terror associated with nuclear weapons makes these threats dangerous nonetheless. There's always a chance somebody'll do something stupid.

I don't know of any sane way to resolve this, but there has to be some means of putting that whackjob administration out of the world's collective misery.

North Korea's government long ago forfeited their right to rule that country, but I don't see any safe way to get rid of them. They do have nuclear weapons, after all.

[NGTM-1R]

This is the sort of thing that in 1970 would have triggered the end of the ****ing world.

Today, it's mildly alarming to most of it.

I suppose that's progress...

[headdie]

This is the sort of thing that in 1970 would have triggered the end of the ****ing world.

Today, it's mildly alarming to most of it.

I suppose that's progress...

it helps that north Korea's strike range is fairly limited without a major effort to set up a orbital scale rocket, which while I believe they have demonstrated the capacity to build such a device, the results have been less than impressive.

[Apollo]

This is the sort of thing that in 1970 would have triggered the end of the ****ing world.

Today, it's mildly alarming to most of it.

I suppose that's progress...

In one sense, yes. But it's still dangerous and irresponsible for any nation to make empty threats about nuclear war.

TBH though, North Korea doesn't terrify me nearly as much as Pakistan. Why? The latter contains far more religious fanatics.

[Rodo]

It's probably just bad translation

[Mongoose]

I don't know of any sane way to resolve this, but there has to be some means of putting that whackjob administration out of the world's collective misery.

It's tricky to find an avenue that does not lead to massive suffering on the part of North Korea's (and probably South Korea's) people.

Yeah, that's the ***** of it.  Any strike at the leadership probably dooms the North Korean populace to even more suffering than they're already undergoing, and Seoul has so much weaponry pointed its way that they'd be royally screwed too.  And that pretty much leaves us stuck.

[achtung]

I don't know of any sane way to resolve this, but there has to be some means of putting that whackjob administration out of the world's collective misery.

It's tricky to find an avenue that does not lead to massive suffering on the part of North Korea's (and probably South Korea's) people.

Yeah, that's the ***** of it.  Any strike at the leadership probably dooms the North Korean populace to even more suffering than they're already undergoing, and Seoul has so much weaponry pointed its way that they'd be royally screwed too.  And that pretty much leaves us stuck.

Things must fall apart before they can be put back together.

[General Battuta]

I don't know of any sane way to resolve this, but there has to be some means of putting that whackjob administration out of the world's collective misery.

It's tricky to find an avenue that does not lead to massive suffering on the part of North Korea's (and probably South Korea's) people.

Yeah, that's the ***** of it.  Any strike at the leadership probably dooms the North Korean populace to even more suffering than they're already undergoing, and Seoul has so much weaponry pointed its way that they'd be royally screwed too.  And that pretty much leaves us stuck.

Things must fall apart before they can be put back together.

Demonstrably incorrect - smooth regime changes have been pulled off before and we've been rewarded with enduring allies. And sticking to this line of thought, that 'things must fall apart', leads to inadequate post-collapse planning and debacles like Iraq.