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Anonymous Plans Widespread Cyberattack on Israel; forgets about Mossad.
https://news.google.com/news/rtc?ncl=dXSNwGlaCemYBXMc-5g_8eEcJ2kiM

Dear Anonymous,

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Re: Anonymous Plans Widespread Cyberattack on Israel; forgets about Mossad.
Minor government functions inconvenienced; Israeli helicopters launch Hellfire missiles at Linus Torvalds

Obama administration: 'a fair response'

 

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Re: Anonymous Plans Widespread Cyberattack on Israel; forgets about Mossad.
Anonymous is pretty juvenile but if you are getting a hard-on at the thought of Mossad ninjas waterboarding some script kiddie with a LOIC installation because they DDOSed an info page, you might want to reconsider the proportionality of your response.

Instead of writing breathy love letters to a big organization I think I prefer the sane and measured approach taken by one of the very articles you linked:

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“But we have to keep things in proportion. These are independent hackers located around the world, an assortment of young people. The significance of the threat is somewhat limited. The damage will likely be confined to the realm of image,” Gaist said.

 

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Re: Anonymous Plans Widespread Cyberattack on Israel; forgets about Mossad.
Anonymous is pretty juvenile but if you are getting a hard-on at the thought of Mossad ninjas waterboarding some script kiddie with a LOIC installation because they DDOSed an info page, you might want to reconsider the proportionality of your response.

Under the "right" circumstances, it's not an unimaginable situation at all, apparently: http://www.theverge.com/2013/3/21/4130740/tallin-manual-on-the-international-law-applicable-to-cyber-warfare
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"The very essence of tolerance rests on the fact that we have to be intolerant of intolerance. Stretching right back to Kant, through the Frankfurt School and up to today, liberalism means that we can do anything we like as long as we don't hurt others. This means that if we are tolerant of others' intolerance - especially when that intolerance is a call for genocide - then all we are doing is allowing that intolerance to flourish, and allowing the violence that will spring from that intolerance to continue unabated." - Bren Carlill

 

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Re: Anonymous Plans Widespread Cyberattack on Israel; forgets about Mossad.
Let me just recap here. An ill-organized and ineffective hacker collective briefly brought down the Central Bureau of Statistics website, and you started a forum thread about your country's aggressive and allegedly quite smart intelligence service tracking them down and killing them.

 

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Re: Anonymous Plans Widespread Cyberattack on Israel; forgets about Mossad.
Mossad would be much more cool and sick (like skateboarders) if they tracked down these guys' names and then made Advice Dog memes out of them and got frontpaged on Reddit, talk about cutting edge information warfare

e: apostrophe goes after the plural S

e2: Israel is actually under sustained cyber attack from all over, though particularly from the obvious antagonists in the West Bank and Gaza. They also have some really beastly cyberware capabilities (the US worked with them on Stuxnet), which I think are part of military intelligence rather than Mossad. Given that they have constant and much more important cyberattacks to deal with I suspect this is fairly low on their list of priorities compared to the hostile state and non-state actors right on their doorstep.
« Last Edit: April 06, 2013, 01:59:23 pm by General Battuta »

 

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Re: Anonymous Plans Widespread Cyberattack on Israel; forgets about Mossad.
Mossad would be much more cool and sick (like skateboarders) if they tracked down these guys' names and then made Advice Dog memes out of them and got frontpaged on Reddit, talk about cutting edge information warfare

e: apostrophe goes after the plural S

That's the second time I've seen someone purposefully point out how to properly place the apostrophe when plural.  Has it become common place for people to try and correct proper grammar?

Anyway your first point reminded me of NYC's anti graffiti campaign.
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Re: Anonymous Plans Widespread Cyberattack on Israel; forgets about Mossad.
Minor government functions inconvenienced; Israeli helicopters launch Hellfire missiles at Linus Torvalds

Obama administration: 'a fair response'

Wait what? I didn't see any articles about that.

Unless you're talking about Sandwich's post.
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Re: Anonymous Plans Widespread Cyberattack on Israel; forgets about Mossad.
Mossad would be much more cool and sick (like skateboarders) if they tracked down these guys' names and then made Advice Dog memes out of them and got frontpaged on Reddit, talk about cutting edge information warfare

e: apostrophe goes after the plural S

That's the second time I've seen someone purposefully point out how to properly place the apostrophe when plural.  Has it become common place for people to try and correct proper grammar?

Anyway your first point reminded me of NYC's anti graffiti campaign.

Well it wasn't right before I fixed it!

 
Re: Anonymous Plans Widespread Cyberattack on Israel; forgets about Mossad.
Let me just recap here. An ill-organized and ineffective hacker collective briefly brought down the Central Bureau of Statistics website, and you started a forum thread about your country's aggressive and allegedly quite smart intelligence service tracking them down and killing them.

that's israel for you
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Re: Anonymous Plans Widespread Cyberattack on Israel; forgets about Mossad.
Mossad would be much more cool and sick (like skateboarders) if they tracked down these guys' names and then made Advice Dog memes out of them and got frontpaged on Reddit, talk about cutting edge information warfare

e: apostrophe goes after the plural S

That's the second time I've seen someone purposefully point out how to properly place the apostrophe when plural.  Has it become common place for people to try and correct proper grammar?

Anyway your first point reminded me of NYC's anti graffiti campaign.

Well it wasn't right before I fixed it!

Ah, you simply annotated your edit.  Sorry for some reason I assumed you were pointing out the proper grammar.  As I mentioned I had just recently seen an internet post were special attention was paid towards explaining the correct use of the apostrophe.  I wasn't sure if there was a new grammar meme.
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Re: Anonymous Plans Widespread Cyberattack on Israel; forgets about Mossad.
who said anything about killing them?

i would love to see those whiny, worthless losers get *****slapped.
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Re: Anonymous Plans Widespread Cyberattack on Israel; forgets about Mossad.
i would love to see those whiny, worthless losers get *****slapped.

Pot, kettle. Seriously man, you're bitter, we get it. Stop spewing bile all over every topic in GenDisc, it's annoying as hell.
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Re: Anonymous Plans Widespread Cyberattack on Israel; forgets about Mossad.
trace, hack, set up mail list virus and terrorise hacker's mates
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Re: Anonymous Plans Widespread Cyberattack on Israel; forgets about Mossad.
I think that simply releasing the names and locations of the participants should be enough. Make sure it'll make the news so their parents will know. So much for the whole "Anonymous" gig.

 

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Re: Anonymous Plans Widespread Cyberattack on Israel; forgets about Mossad.
Apparently Anonymous is intending for this to be more along the lines of wiping Israel off the Internet or something rather than just defacing a few websites. Again, those are their intentions from what I've heard/read. We'll see.
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Re: Anonymous Plans Widespread Cyberattack on Israel; forgets about Mossad.
well i'm sure that's a credible threat for which appropriately harsh measures will be justified
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Re: Anonymous Plans Widespread Cyberattack on Israel; forgets about Mossad.
I don't see any mention of plans to track them down and kill them either to be honest, all I see is a newsfeed giving a situation update?

 
Re: Anonymous Plans Widespread Cyberattack on Israel; forgets about Mossad.
yes, the thing we're responding to is sandwich's thinly-veiled nationalistic chest-thumping
« Last Edit: April 08, 2013, 11:07:57 am by PhantomHoover »
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Re: Anonymous Plans Widespread Cyberattack on Israel; forgets about Mossad.
It's amazing how much prosthetic meaning has been added to the original post in that case. Everyone seems to be offending themselves with their own assumptions....