[Sandwich]

Yup, it's quite amusing, ain't it?

[MP-Ryan]

Personally, I'd love to see Mossad post names and addresses of every "hacker" involved on a public website and do nothing else.

That would send the loudest message possible.

[General Battuta]

I don't see any mention of plans to track them down and kill them either to be honest, all I see is a newsfeed giving a situation update?

The discussion is mostly gentle mocking of Sandwich's Mossad hard-on. (Americans could never even get this far because our biggest foreign intelligence agency is a limp cigar.)

[General Battuta]

Personally, I'd love to see Mossad post names and addresses of every "hacker" involved on a public website and do nothing else.

That would send the loudest message possible.

and yeah this would own, except that you are buying into this weird Mossad boogeyman brand: as I talked about last page, Israel's excellent and well-practiced cyberwarfare corps is, I believe, part of their military intelligence service, though I'm not exactly sure where. Flame?, Stuxnet, and Duqu were examples of their offensive capabilities, but they're also constantly dealing with more routine attacks.

This is part of why I think it's so ridiculous to swallow Anonymous' chest-thumping and get all oooh wooo Mossad: when you've already got a more serious local enemy text messaging your officers to tell them that Tel Aviv will soon be a sea of flame, a gang of badly organized cyber-graffiti artists whose bark has generally greatly exceeded their bite are hardly something to get worked up about.

[Black Wolf]

Anonymous is pretty juvenile but if you are getting a hard-on at the thought of Mossad ninjas waterboarding some script kiddie with a LOIC installation because they DDOSed an info page, you might want to reconsider the proportionality of your response.

Under the "right" circumstances, it's not an unimaginable situation at all, apparently: http://www.theverge.com/2013/3/21/4130740/tallin-manual-on-the-international-law-applicable-to-cyber-warfare

According to the manual's authors, it's acceptable to retaliate against cyberattacks with traditional weapons when a state can prove the attack lead to death or severe property damage.

Emphasis mine. Anonymous... has proven remarkably ineffective at killing people, historically.

Keep in mind, though, Mossad's best weapon is it's reputation. Yes, they've been very effective in the past, and probably will be in the future, but they only have top be effective 2% of the time if they can have people (not least their own people) convinced that they're effective 100% of the time. As Battuta's pointed out, the chances that they're going to care about something like this (unless it's thousands of times more effective than past anonymous attacks, which seems unlikely) are very close to zero. But if even a handful of people decide not to take part because of their fear of Mossad (or the Israeli citizenship gets to feel a bit safer because they think they've got tat kind of protection)... well, everyone's job gets that much easier, doesn't it?

[BrotherBryon]

Mossad would be much more cool and sick (like skateboarders) if they tracked down these guys' names and then made Advice Dog memes out of them and got frontpaged on Reddit, talk about cutting edge information warfare

e: apostrophe goes after the plural S

That's the second time I've seen someone purposefully point out how to properly place the apostrophe when plural.  Has it become common place for people to try and correct proper grammar?

Anyway your first point reminded me of NYC's anti graffiti campaign.

Well it wasn't right before I fixed it!

Ah, you simply annotated your edit.  Sorry for some reason I assumed you were pointing out the proper grammar.  As I mentioned I had just recently seen an internet post were special attention was paid towards explaining the correct use of the apostrophe.  I wasn't sure if there was a new grammar meme.

You must have missed this thread then.

http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php?topic=84260.0

[General Battuta]

He posted in it 

[Sandwich]

http://www.jpost.com/Defense/Israeli-cyber-activists-attack-anti-Israel-hackers-308921

Heh: http://www.opisrael.com/

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[Dragon]

That's a good one, even if some facts are not entirely true (for example, Muslims pray facing Mecca. This does indeed mean they have their backs to Jerusalem around those parts, but Muslims from other places may face both Mecca and Jerusalem during prayer).

[Phantom Hoover]

heh, bigotry

[Nemesis6]

I doubt the Mossad cares about stuff like this -- These are the guys who track down and assassinate terrorists abroad, why would they care one iota about DDOS attacks?

[karajorma]

heh, bigotry

Pretty much. But what would you expect, reasoned discourse?

[Phantom Hoover]

Just making sure we're all on the same page on what it is.

[General Battuta]

This thread gets more and more baffling - that vandalized OpIsrael website was linked in the articles Sandwich posted right in the OP, suggesting he didn't even read them 

[BloodEagle]

This thread gets more and more baffling - that vandalized OpIsrael website was linked in the articles Sandwich posted right in the OP, suggesting he didn't even read them 

You mean the link to a constantly updating list of Google News results?

[MP-Ryan]

Personally, I'd love to see Mossad post names and addresses of every "hacker" involved on a public website and do nothing else.

That would send the loudest message possible.

and yeah this would own, except that you are buying into this weird Mossad boogeyman brand: as I talked about last page, Israel's excellent and well-practiced cyberwarfare corps is, I believe, part of their military intelligence service, though I'm not exactly sure where. Flame?, Stuxnet, and Duqu were examples of their offensive capabilities, but they're also constantly dealing with more routine attacks.

This is part of why I think it's so ridiculous to swallow Anonymous' chest-thumping and get all oooh wooo Mossad: when you've already got a more serious local enemy text messaging your officers to tell them that Tel Aviv will soon be a sea of flame, a gang of badly organized cyber-graffiti artists whose bark has generally greatly exceeded their bite are hardly something to get worked up about.

I think you missed my point:  the Mossad needs to publicly post the list of names and addresses, not the security services gathering them.  Something along the lines of "The Mossad has become aware that the following individuals at the following locations have participated in cyberwarfare/security attacks on the citizens and State of Isarel" followed by the names, addresses, and absolutely nothing else.  They don't need to do a damn thing other than that - that service posting that information should be a significant enough psychological threat (give the originating agency).

I agree that, in general, Anonymous is a minor irritation at worst and not a credible threat to anything, but the clowns are starting to get a little too big for their britches and frankly need to be taught that nothing is truly anonymous.  The majority of these script-kiddies have no idea what some of the pre-eminent cybersecurity/warfare agencies are actually capable of.

[Apollo]

Wow. The message log on that site is full of angry Muslims and Jews hurling insults at each other.

[Mongoose]

Wow. The message log on that site is full of angry Muslims and Jews hurling insults at each other.

Welcome to the Middle East!

[Flipside]

Words flying back and forth is a good thing. Better, at least, than munitions.

[Sandwich]

This thread gets more and more baffling - that vandalized OpIsrael website was linked in the articles Sandwich posted right in the OP, suggesting he didn't even read them 

Indeed, what BloodEagle said:

You mean the link to a constantly updating list of Google News results?

But also, when I originally posted the thread, the coordination site for these attacks hadn't been counter-hacked by Israeli hackers (as far as I'm aware).