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Poor Framerate When Viewing Light Objects
All right, this is getting to be downright annoying. Whenever I view a light object, FSO slows down for several seconds. The worst is when I'm right behind a ship (such as in a dogfight) and there is damage lightning/fire coming from it. Having that in my viewer just slows everything down and makes it impossible to get off a clean shot. I've tried reducing the lighting settings, I've tried running in a window, I've tried shutting off the HUD head pop-ups, I've tried disabling light shafts and GLSL, all to no avail. I'm not running the MediaVPs or anything like that, and I've scoured this forum and all other internet sources for problems even remotely similar to mine and haven't found a solution.  :banghead: I don't know what more I can do.
I tried to run in debug mode according to the instructions here, but that was even worse, because instead of loading the mission, this whole thing came up:

Assert: (this_loadout_weapons[slot->wep[j]] >= 0)
File: missionscreencommon.cpp
Line: 1118
Attempting to restore the previous missions loadout has resulted in an invalid number of weapons available

ntdll.dll! NtWaitForSingleObject + 12 bytes
KERNELBASE.dll! WaitForSingleObject + 18 bytes
fs2_open_3_6_18_DEBUG_NO-SSE.exe! SCP_DumpStack + 354 bytes
fs2_open_3_6_18_DEBUG_NO-SSE.exe! WinAssert + 238 bytes
fs2_open_3_6_18_DEBUG_NO-SSE.exe! wss_maybe_restore_loadout + 1216 bytes
fs2_open_3_6_18_DEBUG_NO-SSE.exe! common_select_init + 316 bytes
fs2_open_3_6_18_DEBUG_NO-SSE.exe! brief_init + 508 bytes
fs2_open_3_6_18_DEBUG_NO-SSE.exe! game_enter_state + 663 bytes
fs2_open_3_6_18_DEBUG_NO-SSE.exe! gameseq_set_state + 310 bytes
fs2_open_3_6_18_DEBUG_NO-SSE.exe! game_process_event + 318 bytes
fs2_open_3_6_18_DEBUG_NO-SSE.exe! gameseq_process_events + 152 bytes
fs2_open_3_6_18_DEBUG_NO-SSE.exe! game_main + 782 bytes
fs2_open_3_6_18_DEBUG_NO-SSE.exe! WinMain + 330 bytes
fs2_open_3_6_18_DEBUG_NO-SSE.exe! __tmainCRTStartup + 358 bytes
fs2_open_3_6_18_DEBUG_NO-SSE.exe! WinMainCRTStartup + 15 bytes
KERNEL32.dll! BaseThreadInitThunk + 14 bytes
ntdll.dll! RtlInitializeExceptionChain + 133 bytes
ntdll.dll! RtlInitializeExceptionChain + 88 bytes

This only happened once I was in debug mode. As for the debug log itself, I tried to find it in the "data" folder and only came up with the three things included in this post as attachments.

Any help would be greatly appreciated, as FSO is awesome and needs to be played!


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Re: Poor Framerate When Viewing Light Objects
I also wanted to mention that the framerate goes back to normal whenever I'm not looking directly at the light source. Also, the framerate seems to slow down a bit when new ships warp in and when new dialogue comes up, but it only lasts for a couple of seconds. The damage lightning one stays slow as long as I'm in close proximity to it, however. There are other occasional slowdowns that are seemingly random and also last a couple of seconds, causing the game to become choppy. Very annoying.

 

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Re: Poor Framerate When Viewing Light Objects
The fs2_open.log file is the debug log.

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==========================================================================
DEBUG SPEW: No debug_filter.cfg found, so only general, error, and warning
categories can be shown and no debug_filter.cfg info will be saved.
==========================================================================
FreeSpace 2 Open version: 3.6.18.9546
Passed cmdline options:
  -window
Building file index...
Found root pack 'C:\GOG Games\Freespace 2\Root_fs2.vp' with a checksum of 0xce10d76c
Found root pack 'C:\GOG Games\Freespace 2\smarty_fs2.vp' with a checksum of 0xddeb3b1e
Found root pack 'C:\GOG Games\Freespace 2\sparky_fs2.vp' with a checksum of 0x164fe65a
Found root pack 'C:\GOG Games\Freespace 2\sparky_hi_fs2.vp' with a checksum of 0xa11d56f1
Found root pack 'C:\GOG Games\Freespace 2\stu_fs2.vp' with a checksum of 0xd77da83a
Found root pack 'C:\GOG Games\Freespace 2\tango1_fs2.vp' with a checksum of 0x4c25221e
Found root pack 'C:\GOG Games\Freespace 2\tango2_fs2.vp' with a checksum of 0x86920b82
Found root pack 'C:\GOG Games\Freespace 2\tango3_fs2.vp' with a checksum of 0x705e8d71
Found root pack 'C:\GOG Games\Freespace 2\warble_fs2.vp' with a checksum of 0xd85c305d
Searching root 'C:\GOG Games\Freespace 2\' ... 53 files
Searching root pack 'C:\GOG Games\Freespace 2\Root_fs2.vp' ... 157 files
Searching root pack 'C:\GOG Games\Freespace 2\smarty_fs2.vp' ... 10 files
Searching root pack 'C:\GOG Games\Freespace 2\sparky_fs2.vp' ... 3027 files
Searching root pack 'C:\GOG Games\Freespace 2\sparky_hi_fs2.vp' ... 1337 files
Searching root pack 'C:\GOG Games\Freespace 2\stu_fs2.vp' ... 2355 files
Searching root pack 'C:\GOG Games\Freespace 2\tango1_fs2.vp' ... 32 files
Searching root pack 'C:\GOG Games\Freespace 2\tango2_fs2.vp' ... 15 files
Searching root pack 'C:\GOG Games\Freespace 2\tango3_fs2.vp' ... 10 files
Searching root pack 'C:\GOG Games\Freespace 2\warble_fs2.vp' ... 52 files
Found 10 roots and 7048 files.
Setting language to English
Initializing OpenAL...
  OpenAL Vendor     : Creative Labs Inc.
  OpenAL Renderer   : Software
  OpenAL Version    : 1.1

  Found extension "ALC_EXT_EFX".

  Sample rate: 44100 (44100)
  EFX enabled: NO
  Playback device: Generic Software on Speakers and Headphones (IDT High Definition Audio CODEC)
  Capture device: Internal Mic (IDT High Definiti
... OpenAL successfully initialized!
Initializing OpenGL graphics device at 1024x768 with 32-bit color...
  Initializing WGL...
  Requested WGL Video values = R: 8, G: 8, B: 8, depth: 24, stencil: 8, double-buffer: 1
  Actual WGL Video values    = R: 8, G: 8, B: 8, depth: 24, stencil: 8, double-buffer: 1
  OpenGL Vendor    : ATI Technologies Inc.
  OpenGL Renderer  : AMD Radeon HD 7420G
  OpenGL Version   : 4.2.11764 Compatibility Profile Context

  Using extension "GL_EXT_fog_coord".
  Using extension "GL_ARB_multitexture".
  Using extension "GL_ARB_texture_env_add".
  Using extension "GL_ARB_texture_compression".
  Using extension "GL_EXT_texture_compression_s3tc".
  Using extension "GL_EXT_texture_filter_anisotropic".
  Using extension "GL_ARB_texture_env_combine".
  Using extension "GL_EXT_compiled_vertex_array".
  Using extension "GL_EXT_draw_range_elements".
  Using extension "GL_ARB_texture_mirrored_repeat".
  Using extension "GL_ARB_texture_non_power_of_two".
  Using extension "GL_ARB_vertex_buffer_object".
  Using extension "GL_ARB_pixel_buffer_object".
  Using extension "GL_SGIS_generate_mipmap".
  Using extension "GL_EXT_framebuffer_object".
  Using extension "GL_ARB_texture_rectangle".
  Using extension "GL_EXT_bgra".
  Using extension "GL_ARB_texture_cube_map".
  Using extension "GL_EXT_texture_lod_bias".
  Using extension "GL_ARB_point_sprite".
  Using extension "GL_ARB_shading_language_100".
  Using extension "GL_ARB_shader_objects".
  Using extension "GL_ARB_vertex_shader".
  Using extension "GL_ARB_fragment_shader".
  Using extension "GL_ARB_shader_texture_lod".
  Using extension "GL_ARB_texture_float".
  Using extension "GL_ARB_draw_elements_base_vertex".
  Found special extension function "wglSwapIntervalEXT".

Compiling new shader:
   Loading built-in default shader for: soft-v.sdr
   Loading built-in default shader for: soft-f.sdr
Shader features:
   Depth-blended Particles
Compiling new shader:
   Loading built-in default shader for: soft-v.sdr
   Loading built-in default shader for: soft-f.sdr
Shader features:
   Distorted Particles

  Max texture units: 8 (16)
  Max elements vertices: 2147483647
  Max elements indices: 16777215
  Max texture size: 16384x16384
  Max render buffer size: 16384x16384
  Can use compressed textures: YES
  Texture compression available: YES
  Post-processing enabled: NO
  Using trilinear texture filter.
  OpenGL Shader Version: 4.20
... OpenGL init is complete!
Size of bitmap info = 742 KB
Size of bitmap extra info = 48 bytes
ANI cursorweb with size 24x24 (25.0% wasted)
GRAPHICS: Initializing default colors...
Game Settings Table: Using Standard Loops For SEXP Arguments
Game Settings Table: Using standard event chaining behavior
Game Settings Table: External shaders are DISABLED
SCRIPTING: Beginning initialization sequence...
SCRIPTING: Beginning Lua initialization...
LUA: Opening LUA state...
LUA: Initializing base Lua libraries...
LUA: Beginning ADE initialization
ADE: Initializing enumeration constants...
ADE: Assigning Lua session...
SCRIPTING: Beginning main hook parse sequence....
Wokka!  Error opening file (scripting.tbl)!
TABLES: Unable to parse 'scripting.tbl'!  Error code = 5.
SCRIPTING: Inititialization complete.
SCRIPTING: Splash screen overrides checked
SCRIPTING: Splash hook has been run
SCRIPTING: Splash screen conditional hook has been run
Using high memory settings...
Wokka!  Error opening file (interface.tbl)!
WMCGUI: Unable to parse 'interface.tbl'!  Error code = 5.
Dutifully ignoring the extra sound values for retail sound 36, 'l_hit.wav'...
Dutifully ignoring the extra sound values for retail sound 37, 'm_hit.wav'...
Windows reported 16 joysticks, we found 0
Current soundtrack set to -1 in event_music_reset_choices
TABLES => Unable to find 'colors.tbl'. Initialising colors with default values.
Wokka!  Error opening file (armor.tbl)!
TABLES: Unable to parse 'armor.tbl'!  Error code = 5.
ANI support1 with size 108x24 (25.0% wasted)
ANI damage1 with size 148x25 (21.9% wasted)
ANI wingman1 with size 71x53 (17.2% wasted)
ANI wingman2 with size 35x53 (17.2% wasted)
ANI wingman3 with size 14x53 (17.2% wasted)
ANI toggle1 with size 57x20 (37.5% wasted)
ANI head1 with size 164x132 (48.4% wasted)
ANI weapons1 with size 126x20 (37.5% wasted)
ANI objective1 with size 149x21 (34.4% wasted)
ANI netlag1 with size 29x30 (6.3% wasted)
ANI targhit1 with size 31x21 (34.4% wasted)
ANI time1 with size 47x23 (28.1% wasted)
ANI targetview1 with size 137x156 (39.1% wasted)
ANI targetview2 with size 4x96 (25.0% wasted)
ANI targetview3 with size 7x20 (37.5% wasted)
ANI 2_energy2 with size 86x96 (25.0% wasted)
ANI 2_reticle1 with size 40x24 (25.0% wasted)
ANI 2_leftarc with size 103x252 (1.6% wasted)
ANI 2_rightarc1 with size 103x252 (1.6% wasted)
ANI 2_toparc2 with size 35x24 (25.0% wasted)
ANI 2_toparc3 with size 41x29 (9.4% wasted)
ANI 2_lead1 with size 26x26 (18.8% wasted)
ANI 2_lock1 with size 56x53 (17.2% wasted)
ANI 2_lockspin with size 100x100 (21.9% wasted)
ANI energy1 with size 12x41 (35.9% wasted)
ANI 2_radar1 with size 209x170 (33.6% wasted)
loading animated cursor "cursor"
ANI cursor with size 24x24 (25.0% wasted)
TABLES => Starting parse of 'mainhall.tbl.
Ships.tbl is : VALID
Weapons.tbl is : VALID
cfile_init() took 189
TrackIR Init Failed - 1
MVE: Buffer underun (First is normal)
Got event GS_EVENT_GAME_INIT (49) in state NOT A VALID STATE (0)
ANI cursor.ani with size 24x24 (25.0% wasted)
Got event GS_EVENT_MAIN_MENU (0) in state GS_STATE_INITIAL_PLAYER_SELECT (37)
Someone passed an extension to bm_load for file 'hammer.pcx'
ANI 2_mainwalk.ani with size 209x477 (6.8% wasted)
ANI 2_mainflyby.ani with size 509x189 (26.2% wasted)
ANI 2_maincrane.ani with size 192x116 (9.4% wasted)
ANI 2_mainexit.ani with size 319x174 (32.0% wasted)
ANI 2_mainbarracks.ani with size 273x158 (38.3% wasted)
ANI 2_mainreadyroom.ani with size 231x145 (43.4% wasted)
ANI 2_maintechroom.ani with size 69x119 (7.0% wasted)
ANI 2_mainoptions.ani with size 337x206 (19.5% wasted)
ANI 2_maincampaign.ani with size 308x190 (25.8% wasted)
Got event GS_EVENT_NEW_CAMPAIGN (26) in state GS_STATE_MAIN_MENU (1)
Got event GS_EVENT_START_GAME (1) in state GS_STATE_MAIN_MENU (1)
=================== STARTING LEVEL LOAD ==================
Reassigning player to squadron 53rd Hammerheads
Someone passed an extension to bm_load for file 'hammer.pcx'
ANI 2_Loading with size 824x43 (32.8% wasted)
ANI 2_Loading.ani with size 824x43 (32.8% wasted)
Starting model page in...
Beginning level bitmap paging...
Loading warp model
 -1
SHOCKWAVE =>  Loading default shockwave animation...
SHOCKWAVE =>  Default animation load: SUCCEEDED!!
MISSION LOAD: 'SM1-01.fs2'
Hmmm... Extension passed to mission_load...
Reassigning player to squadron 53rd Hammerheads
Someone passed an extension to bm_load for file 'hammer.pcx'
Starting mission message count : 205
Ending mission message count : 246
Current soundtrack set to -1 in event_music_reset_choices
Loading model 'fighter2t-05.pof'
Compiling new shader:
   Loading built-in default shader for: main-v.sdr
   Loading built-in default shader for: main-f.sdr
Shader features:
   Lighting
   Diffuse Mapping
Compiling new shader:
   Loading built-in default shader for: main-v.sdr
   Loading built-in default shader for: main-f.sdr
Shader features:
   Lighting
   Fog Effect
   Diffuse Mapping
Compiling new shader:
   Loading built-in default shader for: main-v.sdr
   Loading built-in default shader for: main-f.sdr
Shader features:
   Lighting
   Diffuse Mapping
   Animated Effects
Compiling new shader:
   Loading built-in default shader for: main-v.sdr
   Loading built-in default shader for: main-f.sdr
Shader features:
   Lighting
   Fog Effect
   Diffuse Mapping
   Animated Effects
Compiling new shader:
   Loading built-in default shader for: main-v.sdr
   Loading built-in default shader for: main-f.sdr
Shader features:
   Lighting
Compiling new shader:
   Loading built-in default shader for: main-v.sdr
   Loading built-in default shader for: main-f.sdr
Shader features:
   Lighting
   Fog Effect
Compiling new shader:
   Loading built-in default shader for: main-v.sdr
   Loading built-in default shader for: main-f.sdr
Shader features:
   Lighting
   Animated Effects
Compiling new shader:
   Loading built-in default shader for: main-v.sdr
   Loading built-in default shader for: main-f.sdr
Shader features:
   Lighting
   Fog Effect
   Animated Effects
IBX: Found a good IBX to read for 'fighter2t-05.pof'.
IBX-DEBUG => POF checksum: 0x43698f32, IBX checksum: 0x4ec46927 -- "fighter2t-05.pof"
Submodel 'fighter2t-05b' is detail level 1 of 'fighter2t-05a'
Submodel 'fighter2t-05c' is detail level 2 of 'fighter2t-05a'
Submodel 'fighter2t-05d' is detail level 3 of 'fighter2t-05a'
Submodel 'thruster04b' is detail level 1 of 'thruster04a'
Submodel 'thruster04c' is detail level 2 of 'thruster04a'
Submodel 'thruster02b' is detail level 1 of 'thruster02a'
Submodel 'thruster02c' is detail level 2 of 'thruster02a'
Submodel 'thruster01b' is detail level 1 of 'thruster01a'
Submodel 'thruster01c' is detail level 2 of 'thruster01a'
Submodel 'thruster03b' is detail level 1 of 'thruster03a'
Submodel 'thruster03c' is detail level 2 of 'thruster03a'
Loading model 'freighter04.pof'
IBX: Found a good IBX to read for 'freighter04.pof'.
IBX-DEBUG => POF checksum: 0xf7f327c9, IBX checksum: 0xa0920028 -- "freighter04.pof"
Submodel 'freighter04b-hull' is detail level 1 of 'freighter04a-hull'
Submodel 'freighter04c-hull' is detail level 2 of 'freighter04a-hull'
Submodel 'freighter04d-hull' is detail level 3 of 'freighter04a-hull'
Loading model 'capital2V-01.pof'
Potential problem found: Unrecognized subsystem type 'reactor', believed to be in ship capital2V-01.pof
Potential problem found: Unrecognized subsystem type 'bridge', believed to be in ship capital2V-01.pof
Potential problem found: Unrecognized subsystem type 'fighterbay01', believed to be in ship capital2V-01.pof
Potential problem found: Unrecognized subsystem type 'fighterbay02', believed to be in ship capital2V-01.pof
IBX: Found a good IBX to read for 'capital2V-01.pof'.
IBX-DEBUG => POF checksum: 0x3bf5b85e, IBX checksum: 0xa18d98d6 -- "capital2V-01.pof"
Submodel 'capital2v-01b' is detail level 1 of 'capital2v-01a'
Submodel 'capital2v-01c' is detail level 2 of 'capital2v-01a'
Submodel 'capital2v-01d' is detail level 3 of 'capital2v-01a'
Loading model 'fighter2v-01.pof'
IBX: Found a good IBX to read for 'fighter2v-01.pof'.
IBX-DEBUG => POF checksum: 0x171eca80, IBX checksum: 0xdc2c7be3 -- "fighter2v-01.pof"
Submodel 'fightv01d' is detail level 3 of 'fightv01a'
Submodel 'fightv01c' is detail level 2 of 'fightv01a'
Submodel 'fightv01b' is detail level 1 of 'fightv01a'
Submodel 'thruster02c' is detail level 2 of 'thruster02a'
Submodel 'thruster02b' is detail level 1 of 'thruster02a'
Submodel 'thruster01c' is detail level 2 of 'thruster01a'
Submodel 'thruster01b' is detail level 1 of 'thruster01a'
Loading model 'corvette2t-01.pof'
IBX: Found a good IBX to read for 'corvette2t-01.pof'.
IBX-DEBUG => POF checksum: 0x9473f5b8, IBX checksum: 0x8b1fba7f -- "corvette2t-01.pof"
Submodel 'tcorvettec' is detail level 2 of 'tcorvettea'
Submodel 'tcorvetteb' is detail level 1 of 'tcorvettea'
Submodel 'tcorvetted' is detail level 3 of 'tcorvettea'
Loading model 'fighter06.pof'
IBX: Found a good IBX to read for 'fighter06.pof'.
IBX-DEBUG => POF checksum: 0x6ae05668, IBX checksum: 0x611d5d12 -- "fighter06.pof"
Submodel 'fighter06b' is detail level 1 of 'fighter06a'
Submodel 'fighter06c' is detail level 2 of 'fighter06a'
Submodel 'fighter06d' is detail level 3 of 'fighter06a'
Submodel 'thruster02b' is detail level 1 of 'thruster02a'
Submodel 'thruster02c' is detail level 2 of 'thruster02a'
Submodel 'thruster04b' is detail level 1 of 'thruster04a'
Submodel 'thruster04c' is detail level 2 of 'thruster04a'
Submodel 'thruster03b' is detail level 1 of 'thruster03a'
Submodel 'thruster03c' is detail level 2 of 'thruster03a'
Submodel 'thruster01b' is detail level 1 of 'thruster01a'
Submodel 'thruster01c' is detail level 2 of 'thruster01a'
Allocating space for at least 5 new ship subsystems ...  a total of 200 is now available (5 in-use).
OpenGL: Created 512x512 FBO!
=================== STARTING LEVEL DATA LOAD ==================
Loading model 'support2t-01.pof'
IBX: Found a good IBX to read for 'support2t-01.pof'.
IBX-DEBUG => POF checksum: 0xdb916bfd, IBX checksum: 0x7528be77 -- "support2t-01.pof"
Submodel 'bodyb' is detail level 1 of 'bodya'
Submodel 'bodyc' is detail level 2 of 'bodya'
Submodel 'bodyd' is detail level 3 of 'bodya'
Submodel 'thruster01b' is detail level 1 of 'thruster01a'
Submodel 'thruster01c' is detail level 2 of 'thruster01a'
Submodel 'thruster02b' is detail level 1 of 'thruster02a'
Submodel 'thruster02c' is detail level 2 of 'thruster02a'
Submodel 'thruster03b' is detail level 1 of 'thruster03a'
Submodel 'thruster03c' is detail level 2 of 'thruster03a'
Loading model 'support2v-01.pof'
IBX: Found a good IBX to read for 'support2v-01.pof'.
IBX-DEBUG => POF checksum: 0xb4ca2191, IBX checksum: 0x51e516f8 -- "support2v-01.pof"
Submodel 'hercb' is detail level 1 of 'herca'
Submodel 'hercc' is detail level 2 of 'herca'
Submodel 'hercd' is detail level 3 of 'herca'
Submodel 'thruster01b' is detail level 1 of 'thruster01a'
Submodel 'thruster01c' is detail level 2 of 'thruster01a'
Allocating space for at least 186 new ship subsystems ...  a total of 400 is now available (40 in-use).
About to page in ships!
ANI shield-f06 with size 112x93 (27.3% wasted)
ANI shieldft-05 with size 112x93 (27.3% wasted)
ANI shieldfv-01 with size 112x93 (27.3% wasted)
Loading model 'hornet.pof'
IBX: Found a good IBX to read for 'hornet.pof'.
IBX-DEBUG => POF checksum: 0x57350658, IBX checksum: 0x3003360c -- "hornet.pof"
Submodel 'realhornet-b' is detail level 1 of 'realhornet-a'
Submodel 'realhornet-c' is detail level 2 of 'realhornet-a'
Submodel 'thruster01b' is detail level 1 of 'thruster01a'
Submodel 'thruster01c' is detail level 2 of 'thruster01a'
Loading model 'rockeye.pof'
IBX: Found a good IBX to read for 'rockeye.pof'.
IBX-DEBUG => POF checksum: 0xf180b177, IBX checksum: 0xaef8ed0d -- "rockeye.pof"
Submodel 'rockeye-b' is detail level 1 of 'rockeye-a'
Submodel 'rockeye-c' is detail level 2 of 'rockeye-a'
Submodel 'thruster01b' is detail level 1 of 'thruster01a'
Submodel 'thruster01c' is detail level 2 of 'thruster01a'
Loading model 'Tempest.pof'
IBX: Found a good IBX to read for 'Tempest.pof'.
IBX-DEBUG => POF checksum: 0x99e70c37, IBX checksum: 0xbd8cc4c7 -- "Tempest.pof"
Submodel 'realtempest-b' is detail level 1 of 'realtempest-a'
Submodel 'realtempest-c' is detail level 2 of 'realtempest-a'
Submodel 'thruster01b' is detail level 1 of 'thruster01a'
Submodel 'thruster01c' is detail level 2 of 'thruster01a'
Loading model 'NewHornet.pof'
IBX: Found a good IBX to read for 'NewHornet.pof'.
IBX-DEBUG => POF checksum: 0x0f07cd0b, IBX checksum: 0x85374d0b -- "NewHornet.pof"
Submodel 'realhornet-b' is detail level 1 of 'realhornet-a'
Submodel 'realhornet-c' is detail level 2 of 'realhornet-a'
Submodel 'thruster01b' is detail level 1 of 'thruster01a'
Submodel 'thruster01c' is detail level 2 of 'thruster01a'
Loading model 'bombardier.pof'
IBX: Found a good IBX to read for 'bombardier.pof'.
IBX-DEBUG => POF checksum: 0x99891c8b, IBX checksum: 0x603eded0 -- "bombardier.pof"
Submodel 'realhornet-b' is detail level 1 of 'realhornet-a'
Submodel 'realhornet-c' is detail level 2 of 'realhornet-a'
Submodel 'thruster01b' is detail level 1 of 'thruster01a'
Submodel 'thruster01c' is detail level 2 of 'thruster01a'
Loading model 'crossbow.pof'
IBX: Found a good IBX to read for 'crossbow.pof'.
IBX-DEBUG => POF checksum: 0x32caa81e, IBX checksum: 0xfec4cef3 -- "crossbow.pof"
Submodel 'realcrossbow-b' is detail level 1 of 'realcrossbow-a'
Submodel 'realcrossbow-c' is detail level 2 of 'realcrossbow-a'
Submodel 'thruster01b' is detail level 1 of 'thruster01a'
Submodel 'thruster01c' is detail level 2 of 'thruster01a'
Loading model 'piranha.pof'
IBX: Found a good IBX to read for 'piranha.pof'.
IBX-DEBUG => POF checksum: 0x8075cf85, IBX checksum: 0x94d3279a -- "piranha.pof"
Submodel 'piranhareal-b' is detail level 1 of 'piranhareal-a'
Submodel 'piranhareal-c' is detail level 2 of 'piranhareal-a'
Submodel 'thruster01b' is detail level 1 of 'thruster01a'
Submodel 'thruster01c' is detail level 2 of 'thruster01a'
Loading model 'cmeasure01.pof'
IBX: Found a good IBX to read for 'cmeasure01.pof'.
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Oof, it sucks that you're getting this slowdown even without the MediaVPs or any of the eye candy turned on. This problem almost sounds like something that comes up when you're using deferred lighting, but that build shouldn't have deferred lighting enabled.

Video card drivers up to date? Have you tried one of the 3.7.0 RCs?

 
Re: Poor Framerate When Viewing Light Objects
Yeah, I actually was trying to look up stuff about how to check on and update my video card drivers, just in case, although I wasn't able to figure it out (not tech-savvy enough, I guess). My computer is only five months old, so it shouldn't be a problem, but I guess there could still be an issue there. Do you know how I could check on that? I'm running Windows 8, so...

 
Re: Poor Framerate When Viewing Light Objects
And by the way, what's deferred lighting?

 

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Re: Poor Framerate When Viewing Light Objects
Deferred lighting is an experimental rendering technique that can handle a vastly larger number of interactive lights (256 instead of 8) at a much lower overall performance cost. Unfortunately, it's also heavily dependant on your GPU having very fast memory, which in your case (I believe that's an APU you're using there, isn't it?) is not there.
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Re: Poor Framerate When Viewing Light Objects
Well, as I am not very tech savvy, I don't know exactly what GPU or APU means, nor do I know if I'm even running with deferred lighting. However, you can probably tell from the debug log. Any  possible solutions so far?

 

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Re: Poor Framerate When Viewing Light Objects
I don't think you're running with any formed of deferred lighting.

 
Re: Poor Framerate When Viewing Light Objects
Yeah, I didn't think so. What's more, I just don't know why there are so many little slowdowns, because I've used the latest MediaVPs before and it ran beautifully except for those slight pauses. My computer can definitely handle the graphics, but there's a hiccup somehow.  :nono:

 
Re: Poor Framerate When Viewing Light Objects
So, is there basically nothing I can do? If someone knows how I could check on my video card drivers and such, that would be great.

 

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Re: Poor Framerate When Viewing Light Objects
Enabling triple buffering in the video card settings may help (it does for me). The attached image shows where this option is located for a Radeon HD 6870. If you change it, make sure you restart your computer to ensure that the change takes effect.

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"Your fighter is running out of oil.  Please check under the hood and add more if necessary"
--strings.tbl, entry 177

"Freespace is very tired.  It is shutting down to get some rest."
--strings.tbl, entry 178

 
Re: Poor Framerate When Viewing Light Objects
Sounds good, except I don't even know how to get to my video card's control center to change the settings. Any help on finding it?

 

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Re: Poor Framerate When Viewing Light Objects
Sounds good, except I don't even know how to get to my video card's control center to change the settings. Any help on finding it?
There are a few ways to open it (assuming you're using Windows 7 or earlier):
  • Right-click an empty part of the desktop and look for an item that says something like "AMD VISION Engine Control Center." Click it.
  • Look in the system tray for an icon that looks something like the attached image. Double-click it, or right-click it and click "AMD VISION Engine Control Center" (or whatever it happens to say).
  • Open the Start menu and go to (All) Programs -> AMD VISION Engine Control Center (or whatever) -> AMD VISION Engine Control Center (or whatever).

If you're using Windows 8 and none of these work, then I can't really help you myself since I am not familiar with that OS.

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"Your fighter is running out of oil.  Please check under the hood and add more if necessary"
--strings.tbl, entry 177

"Freespace is very tired.  It is shutting down to get some rest."
--strings.tbl, entry 178

 

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Re: Poor Framerate When Viewing Light Objects
For starters let's actually find out what graphics card is involved here.  I recommend getting www.techpowerup.com/gpuz/‎ , running that, clicking the little camera button at the top right, and showing us the resulting image.

 

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Re: Poor Framerate When Viewing Light Objects
For starters let's actually find out what graphics card is involved here.  I recommend getting www.techpowerup.com/gpuz/‎ , running that, clicking the little camera button at the top right, and showing us the resulting image.
The log states that it's an AMD Radeon HD 7420G.

It looks like it's an integrated chip, so it's possible that none of my advice here is really applicable.
"Your fighter is running out of oil.  Please check under the hood and add more if necessary"
--strings.tbl, entry 177

"Freespace is very tired.  It is shutting down to get some rest."
--strings.tbl, entry 178

 
Re: Poor Framerate When Viewing Light Objects
I did find the AMD Control Center, Yarn, but it looks a lot different from the image you attached. I couldn't find a setting like the one you circled. Also, you were right about what type of memory card it is--I attached the image just in case.

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Re: Poor Framerate When Viewing Light Objects
Yeah, does look like an integrated chip, but still a lot beefier than some things we've run FS2Open on.

Thanks for the info!  Unless the driver numbering is way different for Windows 8, I'm pretty sure that you do need new drivers.  Here's the latest:
http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/windows/Pages/radeonaiw_vista64.aspx
and from what they say, that'll work for Windows 8 64-bit, and APU processors too.

I would not be surprised if after that, the Triple Buffering option Yarn mentioned will show up.  Let's hope!

 

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Re: Poor Framerate When Viewing Light Objects
I did find the AMD Control Center, Yarn, but it looks a lot different from the image you attached. I couldn't find a setting like the one you circled.
Does the top of your control center look almost the same as mine? If so, click "Preferences" (near the top-right), then click "Advanced View." Then, from the sidebar, expand "Gaming," then click "3D Application Settings." If the triple buffering setting exists for you, it should be visible now.

If you can't follow the instructions above (because your control center looks different or for some other reason), post a screenshot of your control center.
"Your fighter is running out of oil.  Please check under the hood and add more if necessary"
--strings.tbl, entry 177

"Freespace is very tired.  It is shutting down to get some rest."
--strings.tbl, entry 178

 
Re: Poor Framerate When Viewing Light Objects
First of all, thank you Yarn and Backslash! I downloaded the new drivers and also found the triple buffering option, so I activated it and restarted my computer. I think it may have helped somewhat, but I'm still getting the same glitchy stuttering, mostly when viewing damage lightning and when ships are warping in. Are there any other settings or other things I could do to fix it? I ran the debug again, and it still crashed without letting me play, even though it works fine in the non-debug mode (aside from the stuttering). I've attached the new debug log below.

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Re: Poor Framerate When Viewing Light Objects
I wonder if it has something to do with stuff running in the background that I might not know about. Also, some of my AMD settings were set differently, so I changed them to look exactly like the image Yarn posted on May 21, but I still get the same results.