[The E]

Speaking of the disaster that was the Xbone, what the **** is wrong with you, Microsoft

[General Battuta]

Speaking of the disaster that was the Xbone, what the **** is wrong with you, Microsoft

I saw this live and it was ****ing appalling

[NGTM-1R]

Speaking of the disaster that was the Xbone, what the **** is wrong with you, Microsoft

So yeah would everyone who said gaming culture has no sexism problems like to revise their statements yet?

[qazwsx]

Speaking of the disaster that was the Xbone, what the **** is wrong with you, Microsoft

I saw this live and it was ****ing appalling

Holy ****...

[MP-Ryan]

Speaking of the disaster that was the Xbone, what the **** is wrong with you, Microsoft

So yeah would everyone who said gaming culture has no sexism problems like to revise their statements yet?

I'm going with no - they've shown themselves to be immune to evidence and reason thus far, I'm not optimistic more evidence is going to change their minds.

[General Battuta]

Yeah, the comments section is just -


Typical confirmation bias. The thought of rape never occurred to me when I watched the event live. But guess who went and saw it that way? Yup feminists, looking for controversy where none exists.


This article holds a good candle up to how hysterical many feminists are. It's as though they're wearing goggles looking for anything that can be remotely interpreted as "rape".

Please just listen to yourselves. He said that he was going to beat her at the fighting game quickly. He said that she liked using that particular move.

What are you people doing?


Here's the link to the full video ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v... ). What has been trimmed from the video above is her initial comment about having to play against one of the game producers who has clearly had much more practice. The subsequent comment was "wow, you like those" referring to some fireballs he was shooting at her, not "wow, you like this". Her "I don't like this" is clearly a complaint about getting her ass handed to her on stage and not part of some psuedo rape dialog.

What we have here is a classic example of confirmation bias. The author expects to see rape culture everywhere and so finds and reinterprets examples of otherwise innocent behavior that confirm that expectation.



Biggest crock I've ever read. So whenever I'm completely dominating my female friends in a video game, I'm actually raping them? Wow, I'm such a rape apologist!




Nerds have been ignored and mocked by women their whole lives. No one can honestly be surprised when they don't know how to behave around them.




Had it been a woman winning and she makes some comment questioning her male opponent's manhood, there would have been no controversy and no media sound bite. Women can dish it out but can't take it.




and then im amazed how much crap people have in their heads. always look for the "sex" part in everything even when there isnt any like in this case.

you really need help, mrs writer of this sensationalist article.
it was a fighting game... just that. when you are in a fighting game especially when you know the other person, you will make jokes when you are winning, (because obviously this wasn't a multiplayer trashtalk like happens always, since they knew each other) again, get help, and everyone who got this as a rape joke. something in your brain isn't right if you only see BS and crap around the world whenever people talk. not everything is about sex or rape or pervert stuff... stop looking stuff like that where there isn't.




l o l

[Lorric]

EDIT: scratch that, I get it now from reading up the thread.

[Lorric]

I have to say I agree with the general sentiment of the comments Battuta posted.

Please leave me alone.

However, this guy is a moron. Instead of acting like some big badass for beating up an overmatched opponent, he should be trying to put over the game if he's the producer. He should be talking about the game, not trash. He's a fool.

I don't talk trash when I play games.

[Polpolion]

I have to say I agree with the general sentiment of the comments Battuta posted.

Please leave me alone.

However, this guy is a moron. Instead of acting like some big badass for beating up an overmatched opponent, he should be trying to put over the game if he's the producer. He should be talking about the game, not trash. He's a fool.

I don't talk trash when I play games.

So you not being offended by rape jokes makes it morally A-OK to offend other people with rape jokes? How does that even begin to make sense?

[Lorric]

I don't think it was a rape joke. Just inane trash talk. At worst, this guy's a jerk.

[General Battuta]

Somehow I'm not surprised Lorric thinks it's a good idea to put a woman on stage at the industry's biggest event, script her as being terrible at video games, have her male competitor joke about raping her, and write any objections off as 'oversensitivity'. It fits with the general gamer sentiment that video games are for men and women need to be sent messages that they should stay out.

[General Battuta]

It was indisputably a rape joke. The things he said are the most archetypical and recognizable words a rapist utters to a victim.

[The E]

I have to say I agree with the general sentiment of the comments Battuta posted.

So you agree that there's nothing at all wrong with reenacting dialogue from thousands of actual rape crimes in history in order to promote a game? That there's nothing at all wrong with a representative of a big company being completely oblivious to the statements he is making while on stage in front of an audience of millions?

I don't think it was a rape joke. Just inane trash talk. At worst, this guy's a jerk.

Why do you think this? Why are you so resistant to the idea that there is more than the simple, direct context in which a statement can be interpreted?

[Lorric]

Somehow I'm not surprised Lorric thinks it's a good idea to put a woman on stage at the industry's biggest event, script her as being terrible at video games, have her male competitor joke about raping her, and write any objections off as 'oversensitivity'. It fits with the general gamer sentiment that video games are for men and women need to be sent messages that they should stay out.

Here we go again. I don't think or agree with any of this.

I have to go now, my tea needs to come out of the oven.

[General Battuta]

You may not think or agree with any of it, but whether you realize it or not, it is the position you're defending.

[666maslo666]

"Just let it happen. It will be over soon."

This can easily be interpreted as taunting about killing the opponent quickly. Its quite a stretch to see any rape in this sentence, or anything wrong.

"Wow, you like those,"

I am not sure what he is referring to here, since the video is stuck in that segment for me. It may be a comment similar to those who refer to rape victim secretly liking the rape or abuse. Or something different and innocent.

I will reserve my outrage until it is clear that this was a rape joke, so far it is unclear.

[Lorric]

The woeful inability of you (and by that I mean the whole trio) to judge me and my motivations time and time again gives me zero confidence in your ability to judge others and theirs.

Look at Polpolion, ask me questions, instead of making judgements.

Your minds just cannot seem to comprehend that if someone disagrees with you that it can be for a different reason to that person being a sexist. You're always looking for sexism, so you think you keep finding it in places it is not there.

Alright, let's have a go at this...

I have to say I agree with the general sentiment of the comments Battuta posted.

So you agree that there's nothing at all wrong with reenacting dialogue from thousands of actual rape crimes in history in order to promote a game? That there's nothing at all wrong with a representative of a big company being completely oblivious to the statements he is making while on stage in front of an audience of millions?

I don't think it was a rape joke. Just inane trash talk. At worst, this guy's a jerk.

Why do you think this? Why are you so resistant to the idea that there is more than the simple, direct context in which a statement can be interpreted?

So for the first part, let's paint a little picture. A male and a female are playing a FPS. One on one deathmatch. The female is lying in ambush, but the male doesn't fall for her trap and flushes her out and shoots her up a bit. She retreats. The male says something like "Get back here, I'm not finshed with you yet!" Would you say that was something to do with rape because a rapist might say that to a fleeing victim? I'd say no. It's just a throwaway line.

The only thing I would condemn him for is coming across as a jerk and doing a poor job of promoting the product.

If you could liken that and what was in the video to anything, I'd say the mentality of hunter and prey rather than rapist and victim. But I think it's just inane trash talk.

Second point, simply why do you always think there always have to be wheels within wheels with everything? Why can't it be simple and direct? I think it's just inane trash talk and nothing more.

"Just let it happen. It will be over soon."

This can easily be interpreted as taunting about killing the opponent quickly. Its quite a stretch to see any rape in this sentence, or anything wrong.

"Wow, you like those,"

I am not sure what he is referring to here, since the video is stuck in that segment for me. It may be a comment similar to those who refer to rape victim secretly liking the rape or abuse. Or something different and innocent.

I will reserve my outrage until it is clear that this was a rape joke, so far it is unclear.

Yes.

That second point he's pumping fireballs and she's just walking into them, which is why he's saying it imo.

[General Battuta]

"Just let it happen. It will be over soon."

This can easily be interpreted as taunting about killing the opponent quickly. Its quite a stretch to see any rape in this sentence, or anything wrong.

Rape is not only not a stretch, it is the very first thing associated with this phrase. This is one of the archetypical phrases reported by rape survivors.

[Lorric]

"Just let it happen. It will be over soon."

This can easily be interpreted as taunting about killing the opponent quickly. Its quite a stretch to see any rape in this sentence, or anything wrong.

Rape is not only not a stretch, it is the very first thing associated with this phrase. This is one of the archetypical phrases reported by rape survivors.

So that means we can't use it for other things, such as:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCgCQMeUjDQ

?

[StarSlayer]

This isn't some random multiplayer trash talk over the interwebs, this was scripted event put on by Microsoft.  This skit or whatever you want to call it was something that was written up specifically to convey a message by a marketing team.  It doesn't fall under the "Broseph didn't really mean it, he just likes his Halos." excuse.  Don't even bother trying.