[starbug]

Well in the latest edition of the UK PC Gamer, Freespace is still ranked in the top 100 games at 68. It still beats some of the big titles over the last few years. It also mentions the SCP project and Wing Commander TC. Its nice that its still in the top 100

[Lorric]

And so it should be! 

[MatthTheGeek]

If they mentioned WCS but not Diaspora then **** those guys.

[Lorric]

If they mentioned WCS but not Diaspora then **** those guys.

How can you even say that? Wing Commander Saga is far superior, it's no contest.

[Phantom Hoover]

how ****ing dare anyone not mention diaspora in the tiny puff piece written to spruce up a list of a hundred games

[The E]

If they mentioned WCS but not Diaspora then **** those guys.

How can you even say that? Wing Commander Saga is far superior, it's no contest.

No fighting about this, please.

Lorric: Diaspora is a much better example of what can be done with FSO than WCS, in terms of mission variety and technical accomplishment. As such, not seeing it mentioned (despite its very short length) is somewhat disappointing.

[starbug]

I was hoping they would of mentioned Blue Planet , but never the less, we should be glad it still makes the top 100

[Lorric]

Yes, I agree with no fighting. It is a silly thing to fight over. But I felt Wing Commander Saga needed to be defended when it was being brushed aside in that manner.

Diaspora right now is but a fraction of the finished product, while Wing Commander Saga is complete. Don't get me wrong, I can see Diaspora surpassing it if it is completed.

[Kolgena]

Diaspora might have been too new for the author(s) to have known about it at time of writing.

[karajorma]

I'm not upset that WCS got a mention instead of Diaspora, Diaspora is quite short. WCS instead of TBP on the other hand.....


Seriously though. I think WCS gets mentioned as it's a two for one thing. It's a way of sneaking in a Wing Commander reference (and I don't know if WC got in or not).

[Dragon]

To be fair, TBP is fairly old by now. While Zatharas is doing a quite good job of keeping it running, it's showing the mod is showing it's age somewhat.
As for Diaspora, it's more like a demo in it's current state. It's great from the technical standpoint, but also incredibly short.

[0rph3u5]

I'm not upset that WCS got a mention instead of Diaspora, Diaspora is quite short. WCS instead of TBP on the other hand.....

I guess it comes down to what perspective you look at things...

a) Diaspora is the newest and technologically most superior; yet the content for the player is limited to 5(?) missions and even the assets to build new missions are limited (which is part limit of the BSG-universe and part limit of the release)
b) TBP is the oldest and with Zathras trying to keep up; it also has large and diverse content for someone wanting to create missions; however the playble content is rather lacking compared to all that is in there originally: TBP only comes with a 5 mission EMW-arc and the 16 mission Raider Wars (which are both rather classic), everything else is optional and "sold seperately"
c) WCS comes out of the gate as somewhere in between both technologically and brings a mid range of assets to go out and work with. However it brings the largest amount of playbale content right out of the gate of any TC yet*

Also there is the magazines point of view which you have to take into account; not all readers of PC Gamer must be Fans of SciFi-TV-Shows but are Gamers, so it is reasonable save for a journalist/editor to assume that a Wing Commander-reference might be understood while a reference to B5 or to a lesser extend BSG might not be.

*I'm not entering WoD into the competition here because really stands on its own and has no other material out there that might make it interesting to mention from journalistic point of view

[haloboy100]

I think it's because WCS is based off of a game franchise (and is therefore more relevant to PC gaming) rather than TBP and Diaspora being based off of TV franchises.

Maybe my case is isolated, but I've heard about Wing Commander way before I heard about Battlestar Galactica, and I've never even heard of Babylon 5 until TBP.

ALso, I don't really think it's a surprise, nor much of a big deal that Freespace is in the top 100. I don't think there's that many games in existance that are qualitatively better than Freespace 2, especially in the recent years of the Hollywood-ized gaming industry.

I'd be a little impressed if FS2 made it in the top 50, that I think would be a realistic achievement to hope for.

[Luis Dias]

It was last year I think. no 48 or something.

[karajorma]

It was last year I think. no 48 or something.

It was number 28 in 2011.

[Luis Dias]

ok so despite having the year wrong and the number wrong, I was about right

[Lorric]

It was last year I think. no 48 or something.

It was number 28 in 2011.

How do they decide these things? It was 72nd the year before that. Crazy movement.

You've got 23. Starsiege: Tribes as a new entry. It was released in 1998.

[Klaustrophobia]

pretty much the whim of the authors/editors.

[Enzo03]

I'm pretty sure there was an entire section devoted to Diaspora in a PC Gamer magazine some months ago, with a part saying "FreeSpace 2: still fighting our space battles" or something along those lines... or, it might have been a different mod and I'm just imagining things again.

edit: did I just bump this an entire month?... I just bumped this an entire month.

edit 2: diaspora: shattered armistice is now #25 in pc gamer's top 50 pc games

[karajorma]

Hang on a sec! Do you have a scan or link of that?