[Dark_4ce]

Oh cool. I'll join in too! Though as Vadar knows, I'm not the best of players. heheheh. But trust me when I tell you, heed his advice, its excelent! My callsign is ofcourse Dark_4ce over B.net. Hey thiss be fun, I'll be the newb all the other newbs will be able to kill! But I think I'll start training with vadar. He can be my sensei.

[Blitz_Lightning]

My Brood War's current account's stats are ~50-20. Usually play random (best at zerg). I think the best defense against rushes is just to play normally. If you don't like rushers, learn to live with it. Learn how to micro in defense (ie using peons in defense too, walling, hit and run, move endangered units backwards, etc). Only need a few defense buildings really (ie ~3). That's what I think anyway. Turtling (building zillions of defense buildings) is a stupid way of stopping rushers, I think. Anyway, if you turtle, they just hit your allies.

BTW, what maps are we gonna play on? Lost temple for the good people at the game, normal hunters for the average, and BGH for the newbs I think is a good arrangement.

[Thorn]

Originally posted by adwight
My name on Bnet is -=Rontu=-

FYI...

BTW Thorn, that defense is too much.  4 or 5 tanks are good with 1-2 bunks, by then you should have your opponent contained and be readying your final push...

Too much? When you have over 100 Hydras, 50 Zealots, and 100 marines coming up that path its not too much....

[Corhellion]

Well, I like Blitzs idea for Lost Templer for Pros, Hunters for Regulars, and BGH (Big Game Hunters) for the newbies.

As for Dark 4ce, if another newb decides to join you'll be put up against that person.

Well, I won't be here for most of the day, so this will be my last post until I get back.

Thanx for all the ppl who have signed up already!

Good Luck next week for the Newbies!

Cor

(My name on B.net is of course "Corhellion" )

[Mr. Vega]

We need a channel.

How about just HLP?

Somebody sticky this.

[Knight Templar]

mmmmmmmm BGH, my favorite map, and i'm playin on it. Sweet

[beatspete]

I bought starcraft back in '98, and broodwar in january '99.  It gave me some of my most memorable gaming moments, ive been inspired to play it again now.


Owned: SC + BW.
Skill level: completed campaign and playyed a lot of custom maps, won a few games online, though i havent played on battlenet for years.
Usually play: Terran or Zerg, depends on mood.

Tactics
- lone photon cannons can me taken out by 3 well upgrade zerglings (definatly need adrenalin glands).
- A few seige tanks, 12 marines and some SCVs (maybee a medic too), build bunkers further and further into enemy bases.  Keep tanks in seige mode.

Big game hunters is where you have to kill the creatures isnt it?
Or will it not use map triggers?

Anyone notice if you click 20 times on a ragnasaur (lava world creature) they blow up with a nuclear explosion.  Dont think they damage stuff.

[Knight Templar]

Anyone notice if you click 20 times on a ragnasaur (lava world creature) they blow up with a nuclear explosion. Dont think they damage stuff.

 

I didn't knwo that but that has to be the COOLEST THING I HAVE NEVER DONE.

[Thorn]

Any critter will do that except the Twilight one... that bird.. thing....

[DragonClaw]

Originally posted by beatspete
Big game hunters is where you have to kill the creatures isnt it?
Or will it not use map triggers?

No, its the only money map that was made by blizzard.

[Stealth]

SD Money is the most well known money map in Starcraft (NOT Broodwar)...

Big Game Hunters is mostly used in Starcraft, but it's seen in Broodwar quite often, though they've got more 'advanced' versions of it

also... there's many versions of Big Game Hunters... the 'traditional' has 8 starting places (8 players) and each has one vespene gas and 8 minerals i think...

newer ones have up to 2 expansions for each player, and some have turned up the mineral and vespene count, and made it into a money map.


If we have a tournament that'd be cool, awesome in fact!  but let's do it just Starcraft, because a lot of us don't have Broodwar


oh, and who said "no rushing"???
That's stupid... saying "no rushing" is like saying "don't use any zealots or dragoons against me"... it's pointless... rushing is an aspect of the game... some people are skilled at rushing just like others are good at long, drawn-out games!
You can't have any rules except obvious ones, like no hacks (which is very hard with the 1.09 patch ) and no BSing, etc.

we've also got to decide on a central and MAIN map to play.
a money map or not?  Lost Temple perhaps? (that's only a 2 player though)

or SD Money?  Big Game Hunters?

[Stealth]

I claim rights to host and create the website.

www.tournament.mirrorz.com
will as of tomorrow point to the new HLP Starcraft Tournament
(it was used for the November, 2001 TITAN TOURNAMENT but is not in use anymore  )



(i made up the name 'HLP Starcraft Tournament'... hope everyone approves)

I'm actually looking forward to this, it's exciting.

What day's good for everyone?  I was thinking a Saturday... because in some places in the world will be Friday night, and in other places Saturday afternoon/morning.

We don't want to make it Sunday, because lots of people go to church, spend the day with family, etc.

How about July 27th or August 3rd...

Why did i choose those dates?  Because many people in the UK and USA (particularly) have summer holiday (vacation) annd so therefore won't have school bothering them... the next saturday school starts for a lot of people, so better not do that

What do you guys think?  come up with a date and we'll do it i guess

[RoachKoach]

why doesnt someone do this for redalert 2 yuri's revenge ??

[NeoHunter]

Originally posted by RoachKoach
why doesnt someone do this for redalert 2 yuri's revenge ??

I have Red Alert 2 and Yuri's Revenge. Despite what Westwood says, its still about "the-more-tanks-you-have-the-merrier" tactics. If you were the Allied forces, just getting a lot of Prism Tanks charging up towards the opponents' base and any defense will fall because of its long range and high damage potential. As for the Soviets, I think the same mass tank tactics will apply here. So, naturally, not many people are keen on a Red Alert 2 multiplayer tournament.

Starcraft on the other hand has more strategies and more diversity of units. Almost any unit Starcraft can be countered and rushes can be defended from by clever use of either Siege Tanks or Psionic Storm just to name a few. I once stopped multiple Zerg rushes with just 5 Protoss Zealots and 2 Protoss High Templars.

I remembered that match fondly. It was on Hunters. Not Big Game Hunters. My friends and I wanted a real kick. So, naturally, everybody fought until the whole damn map was stripped of resources. Those of us, like me, who squandered his resources recklessly, found themselves in "Really Deep Do-Do". What I did was just Storm the front as the Zerg came on and used the Zealots to finish off the survivors. E.g Zerg Hydralisks.

So you see, its because of Starcraft's numerous tactics and strategies for attacking and defense that still attracts people from all over the world to play it. I would say that Starcraft is one of Blizzard Entertainment's best successes.

[NeoHunter]

If I remember corectly, both Hunters and Big Game Hunters are 128 by 128 maps with 8 starting player locations.Anybody who can hold the centre is most likely to win that round. Defense is simple because there is only one way in and out of the starting locations and any other alternatives are by air only.

Hunters has limited resources. Big Game Hunters has an additional Vespene Geyser at the starting points. The resources are tuned up to ridiculous levels, so one can "camp" at the starting location for quite some time without the need to expand base.

However, Big Game Hunters is a official Blizzard mulitplayer map, is it???

[Corhellion]

Stealth...I REEEEEEALLY DON'T LIKE YOU SAYING THAT YOU MADE UP THE NAME "HLP STARCRAFT TOURNAMENT"!!!! I DID FIRST!

AND ANOTHER THING, I DON'T LIKE YOU THINKING YOU ARE NOW IN CHARGE!

sure, SOME of your ideas are good...but we don't need a website!

and if you look back on the previous posts, I put down what the maps will be for the different ranks (newbies, regulars, pros).

And it (the tournament) will take place over a period of about 2 weeks! We have to do the 1v1s, the 2v2s, and the final 3v3 games!

Stealth, You got that?!

Don't post here again, thinking you are in charge, cause it WON'T HAPPEN!

Any more questions, and STAY ON TOPIC, ONLY SC/BW related topics.

Cor

[Mr. Vega]

Ok........How about you guys just work together?

*readys Vasudan Attack Fishes*

[Corhellion]

THAT I can do

Stealth...after much thinking and consideration, the website idea sounds useful, it would be much easier to put up "The Card"

So as of now Stealth is the 2nd in command for the "HLP Starcraft/Broodwar Tournament" there will be a part of the card that is for StarCraft ONLY players.

Well, if you can reply here stealth, then we can figure out what dates to post for the games.

Good luck and happy hunting!

Cor

[Fineus]

Sighs....

Not again. Look, This one seems pretty simple to sort out and no I'm not going to read the whole thread to see if I've missed something. Stealth, Corhellion started this tournament. It's his. You do not claim rights to creating websites in it's names or anythnig similar without his express permission and the way I see it, that hasn't happened.

Making this your second transgression in as many days would be very foolish. Understand?

Let's try and sort this one out without me having to close anything or take further action.

[Zeronet]

Never played either of those MP. Hmm might be an idea to start