[FlamingCobra]

Hope none of you guys are living in Pennsylvania or Maryland.

http://blogs.smithsonianmag.com/science/2013/10/radioactive-wastewater-from-fracking-is-found-in-a-pennsylvania-stream/#.Ukx4Cpn6i3J.reddit

Here's the Chesapeake Bay watershed for reference:

[Luis Dias]

There needs to be much more oversight on these issues.

[Beskargam]

As I'm pursuing my studies of environmental science, I find myself somewhat heretical in regards to my beliefs on issues relating to oil and fracking. I am not like most environmentaly concerned individuals 100% opposed to fracking. I do think that fracking needs both oversight and enforcement of existing regulations. Companies that cut corners need to be dealt with most harshly. I wish we could hold individuals all the way up to the CEO and the board responsible for the actions of their companies. That is unlikely due to how incorporation works, and how entrenched business is. Lastly it is ridiculous that emergency personel and  first responders are not told what chemicals and conditions are used  on the site that they have to go onto in the name of "trade secrets"

Also sorry for spelling, I can't

[redsniper]

But if we have more oversight, then it will be harder for companies to cut corners and ignore safety regulations. You're hurting businesses and cutting into their profits. Can't you understand that making money is more important than peoples' lives and health?! :V

I'm sure the poor folks afflicted with cancer and **** from this can just go buy their natural gas from a different natural gas store, and then the invisible hand of the market will just force them to change or go out of business, right?

[Bobboau]

how is it radioactive? were they fracking with nukes?

[Luis Dias]

But if we have more oversight, then it will be harder for companies to cut corners and ignore safety regulations. You're hurting businesses and cutting into their profits. Can't you understand that making money is more important than peoples' lives and health?! :V

I'm sure the poor folks afflicted with cancer and **** from this can just go buy their natural gas from a different natural gas store, and then the invisible hand of the market will just force them to change or go out of business, right?

Yeah well those are dumb ideas and should be forced out of the market of ideas anyways. (even the economic idea you ended up with is a wrong one... the gas market is fungible).

how is it radioactive? were they fracking with nukes?

It would help if you actually read the article.

[swashmebuckle]

Good thing the EPA is shut down or someone might have been fined for this! Bless you, Republicans!

[Nuke]

yay! radiation!

[Bobboau]

It would help if you actually read the article.

yeah it would, but I'm a bit busy right now

[Beskargam]

It would help if you actually read the article.

yeah it would, but I'm a bit busy right now

Radon from the shale is coming up with the fracked water after "exfiltration".  The area contains uranium at those depths.

[Mongoose]

On the plus side, I live most of the way across the state from this, but...yeah.  Fracking's kind of a big issue around here, though on the plus side it makes for really amusing protest signs.

[FUBAR-BDHR]

Great I'm downstream of the runoff from most of the red dots in that article. 

BTW while that area might be labeled the Chesapeake Bay watershed quite a bit of that actually goes into the Allegheny and Monongahela rivers that form the Ohio and go on to the Mississippi.   

[Beskargam]

I wonder how diluted it would be by the time it made it to the Mississippi. Hmm I'm going to look at the concentrations for what they found later tonight

[jr2]

Lastly it is ridiculous that emergency personel and  first responders are not told what chemicals and conditions are used  on the site that they have to go onto in the name of "trade secrets"

I thought according to OSHA rules anyone who had to work in the area s required to be allowed access to the MSDS (Material Safety Data Sheet)  for any hazardous materials used. It would stand to reason that that would apply to emergency workers, too.

Everywhere I've worked - retail warehouse, nursing home, reserve air base, hotel (cleaning agents), bubble wrap factory, effing McDonald's - that's always been the case that I can remember.  You always have access to the MSDS.

[Lorric]

Chesapeake. Allegheny. Monongahela. Mississippi.

Who named these?!

Chesapeake makes me think Cheapskate.

[Nuke]

Chesapeake. Allegheny. Monongahela. Mississippi.

Who named these?!

Chesapeake makes me think Cheapskate.

native americans, perhaps you heard of them.

[Lorric]

native americans, perhaps you heard of them.

Is this common practice keeping such names?

[Bobboau]

yes, very

[Lorric]

yes, very

I'm quite surprised.

Is it just rivers, or does it extend to other things?

[Nuke]

yes, very

I'm quite surprised.

Is it just rivers, or does it extend to other things?

everything pretty much. they have even gone out of their way renaming things to their original names to appease the natives. for example reverting mt mckinley back to denali.