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Offline An4ximandros

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Re: Revenge porn. Another reminder on why it's absolutely disgusting.
It was not only males that used the site, vengeful women did so as well.

As for the whole dissociation thing, I think it falls down to the same reason (I believe) people chastise rape victims: They could easily see themselves in that very situation, and it horrifies them so much they feel the urge to cut all ties to that possibility, no matter how illogical the response may be.

 
Re: Revenge porn. Another reminder on why it's absolutely disgusting.
Wait one. From This article.
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Just as troubling was that publishing these nudes was a legal act. Is Anyone Up branded itself as a "revenge porn" site, encouraging angry exes to send, anonymously, their former partners' nudes. Many people did. So the breasts, penises, and asses on Hunter Moore's site were, the story went, supplied by avenging cuckolds, embittered former friends, and other people with scores to settle. Because this content came from third-party users, Moore wasn't legally held responsible, thanks to Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act of 1996, the same powerful shield that prevents Facebook (or the Voice, for that matter) from being sued for what users post.

I was pretty appalled by this whole thing, until I read that article:
The people got "hacked" by social engineering. These idiots were stupid enough to make even two-factor-authentication useless by giving the hacker the code.
That kind of stupidity deserves it.

I feel bad for those who got their pics uploaded by their exes though. That kind of behaviour is unbelievable, because it's somebody they trusted, not some random idiot asking for their personal data.

 

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Re: Revenge porn. Another reminder on why it's absolutely disgusting.
Any behavior that contributes to the already disparate victimization of women, however 'stupid' the behavior may be, will only make the situation worse for the average woman. (INSERTED AFTER THE FACT) There is another thing for them to fear, another avenue for victimization, and another device for turning a simple mistake into something that will unalterably change a life. (/INSERTED AFTER THE FACT) I personally wonder if societies tendency to destroy people's careers over nude photos may be something that suppresses women more to begin with. Why does having an image of one naked destroy their reputation?

  

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Re: Revenge porn. Another reminder on why it's absolutely disgusting.
its sort of an unofficial unspoken agreement that its something decent people dont do. when someone says taking nude pictures of yourself is disgusting most people would rather keep their mouth shut than express their distaste at what was said in order to better conform to the group. its like in politics, all the power goes to the person with the loudest mouth (and in this case it was those associated with moore that stirred the up all the ****).
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Re: Revenge porn. Another reminder on why it's absolutely disgusting.
I personally wonder if societies tendency to destroy people's careers over nude photos may be something that suppresses women more to begin with. Why does having an image of one naked destroy their reputation?

This. The guy is a real asshole and I think there should be some kind of law against this. However, it is not him that ruins peoples lives, careers and embarrasses them. It is the ****ing society, with slut shaming and pervasive sex negative attitudes. In an ideal world revenge porn would not even be a big deal not because it would not happen, but because nobody would care. But we dont live in one, do we.
« Last Edit: November 25, 2013, 01:13:38 pm by 666maslo666 »
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Re: Revenge porn. Another reminder on why it's absolutely disgusting.
I was pretty appalled by this whole thing, until I read that article:
The people got "hacked" by social engineering. These idiots were stupid enough to make even two-factor-authentication useless by giving the hacker the code.
That kind of stupidity deserves it.

NO.

Seriously. Just don't even start. Hundreds of people harassing your employer with your pictures just because you fell for an social engineering trick exploiting a sense of goodwill and the desire to help one other?
Get a ****ing grip.

 

Offline Lorric

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Re: Revenge porn. Another reminder on why it's absolutely disgusting.
I was pretty appalled by this whole thing, until I read that article:
The people got "hacked" by social engineering. These idiots were stupid enough to make even two-factor-authentication useless by giving the hacker the code.
That kind of stupidity deserves it.
I think that's very harsh. But that's not why I'm here.

Now I may well have understood this wrong, but from what I read, the two people didn't give up their info to some random person. The first girl got hacked some other way then saw her account being used to pilfer that dude's account, and the second, her friend had been hacked, so she thought she was talking to her friend.

 

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Re: Revenge porn. Another reminder on why it's absolutely disgusting.
I was pretty appalled by this whole thing, until I read that article:
The people got "hacked" by social engineering. These idiots were stupid enough to make even two-factor-authentication useless by giving the hacker the code.
That kind of stupidity deserves it.

I feel bad for those who got their pics uploaded by their exes though. That kind of behaviour is unbelievable, because it's somebody they trusted, not some random idiot asking for their personal data.

In case you didn't get the hint, the fact that these people fell victim to social engineering does not mean that they share the responsibility. What you are doing is called "blaming the victim", and I would suggest you stop doing it.

Just because someone has weak locks on his doors does not mean he shares the blame if someone enters his home. Just because someone wears revealing clothing does not mean it is ok to harass her.

We can't all be super aware of the risks inherent in social networking. It falls to us to educate others how to avoid such situations, and offer our assistance to those who got victimized, but what we do not do is point the finger and say "You deserved it because you're stupid".

Is this clear enough, or do you want me to elaborate some more on why what you are doing is utterly, completely stupid?
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Re: Revenge porn. Another reminder on why it's absolutely disgusting.
Sorry, I should have put that differently:

I read the article and was surprised to find people considered the "hacked account"-source for the nudes worse than the "sent to somebody who uploaded them after breakup"-source.
To me, this is backwards:
If it were actual hacking, instead of social engineering, I'd agree, because you couldn't protect yourself if the websites (mail providers) were insecure. But in this case it's not the websites that are insecure.
So, if you wanted to prevent your pics from being posted you would have to change the following things in your life:
If it's your ex uploading them, you'd have to stop trusting anyone (who could you trust more  than your SO?). I consider this inhuman.
If it's your account being hijacked, you'd have to stop being an idiot with your network security. I consider this basic sanity.

 

Offline Luis Dias

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Re: Revenge porn. Another reminder on why it's absolutely disgusting.
If it's your account being hijacked, you'd have to stop being an idiot with your network security. I consider this basic sanity.

And I consider your comments on this issue another thing entirely. Just drop it, okay? Don't blame the victim.

 
Re: Revenge porn. Another reminder on why it's absolutely disgusting.
If it's your account being hijacked, you'd have to stop being an idiot with your network security. I consider this basic sanity.

And I consider your comments on this issue another thing entirely. Just drop it, okay? Don't blame the victim.

Not gonna drop it.
I'm not blaming the victim any more than all of you who are going "Oh, they shouldn't have trusted the person they had sex with to keep their nude pictures confidential", I'm just blaming a different set of victims.

 

Offline Luis Dias

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Re: Revenge porn. Another reminder on why it's absolutely disgusting.
If it's your account being hijacked, you'd have to stop being an idiot with your network security. I consider this basic sanity.

And I consider your comments on this issue another thing entirely. Just drop it, okay? Don't blame the victim.

Not gonna drop it.
I'm not blaming the victim any more than all of you who are going "Oh, they shouldn't have trusted the person they had sex with to keep their nude pictures confidential", I'm just blaming a different set of victims.

No one is going "Oh, they shouldn't have trusted the person they had sex with to keep their nude pictures confidential" so perhaps you'd like to reframe your point?

 
Re: Revenge porn. Another reminder on why it's absolutely disgusting.
No one is going "Oh, they shouldn't have trusted the person they had sex with to keep their nude pictures confidential" so perhaps you'd like to reframe your point?
Really? Am I the only one who reads that woman's words as "Well, sucks for all those people who were sluts and sent pics of themselves to their significant other, but look: My daughter isn't a slut (just stupid) and doesn't deserve to be treated like them!"
She's playing right into the hands of that creep who built the site.

 

Offline zookeeper

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Re: Revenge porn. Another reminder on why it's absolutely disgusting.
Really? Am I the only one who reads that woman's words as "Well, sucks for all those people who were sluts and sent pics of themselves to their significant other, but look: My daughter isn't a slut (just stupid) and doesn't deserve to be treated like them!"
She's playing right into the hands of that creep who built the site.

I for one don't remember her saying anything resembling that. Maybe you could point out some bits which made you think so.

 

Offline Luis Dias

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Re: Revenge porn. Another reminder on why it's absolutely disgusting.
Citation needed, and minus several points for sleazy misdirections: you said "all of you who are going [Bull****] ", now you are saying she said that.

And no, she doesn't say any of that ****.

Are you going to reframe what you said or are you gonna "stick" to your... ahhh... story?

I'm being a little insistent here because I have little patience for these kinds of shenanigans. First you blame the victim, then you reinforce that you are *only* blaming one kind of victim, then you handwavingly accuse the thread commenters of doing the "same" but to the other kind of victim, then you shift this accusation to the mother in the article (nowhere to be found at all, so another fabrication)...

Dafuq man, help me out here because I am having trouble reading what you are actually trying to say, there's too much bull**** in the comms.
« Last Edit: November 25, 2013, 05:09:46 pm by Luis Dias »

 

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