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Nakura wants to work for the NRA
I am tired of working dead-end minimum wage (or close to it) jobs, while only being able to go to college part-time (2-3 classes a semester). This is to say nothing for my strong desire to fight for civil liberties and protect our constitutional rights, something which I'm sure many on this forum have noticed. What you're probably thinking is what I could bring to the table and what my qualifications are?

Let me start by saying that I have been a volunteer for the National Rifle Association for over a year, through their Frontlines program. With that being said, however, there hasn't been much activity with the Missouri branch of the organization, as our Second Amendment (and Article I, Section 23 rights under the Missouri Constitution) rights are fairly well respected in Missouri. In addition to being a Frontlines member, I have spent years studying gun laws and violent crime statistics, from both the United States and the world.

I have engaged in regular dialogue with my representatives and have even received phone calls from Senator Roy Blunt's aides, where we discussed the proposals for national concealed carry reciprocity; in fact, I even pointed out some potential flaws in the bill that could have backfired, namely in dealing with states which don't require a license to concealed carry, and how some of the wording of the proposed bill could have backfired on those states. Outside of gun rights work, I have letters of recommendation from my previous employers and charities I have volunteered for; plus I could probably get one from my college, given all of the volunteer work I've done for the college.

I really think that I could bring a different perspective to the National Rifle Association. I have done something that seemingly nobody else has done, in that I have analyzed laws and crime statistics within dozens of countries and analyzed the affects that those laws have had (both positive and negative) within that country. This data is incredibly valuable when defending gun rights, as the data from both other countries and the United States largely supports the National Rifle Association's position. I would be an invaluable asset in arming the NRA's civil liberties debaters, lawyers and journalists with facts from a unique perspective. While my formal writing skills could use slight improvement, I am a fairly proficient when it comes to writing.

In addition, I hope to bring a new mission to the National Rifle Association, and indeed to the United States, and that is to promote the right to bear arms around the world. We could start by working with people in other countries to form NRA branches in other countries. We also need to distance the gun rights movement from people like Alex Jones and Ted Nugent, as these people are generally perceived to be crazy (and rightly so) and they make the gun rights movement look bad. I'd even go a step further and remove the whole "left-right" dynamic of gun rights. I wrote an essay two years ago about how the National Rifle Association has been moving further to the right, and I'm not just talking about rhetoric; I am talking about campaign endorsements and donations. The NRA had previously been much more non-partisan and had send a great deal of aid to pro-gun rights Democrats, however this aid has seen a decline over the past few years.

I don't believe the NRA should to become a wing of the Republican Party. I believe the NRA should stand for our civil liberties, namely our right to bear arms, and remain non-partisan. Besides, I think we can all accept that the Republican Party (in it's current form at least) is dying, whereas the gun rights movement is coming out on top; but what good are all of the victories and public support that we have today, if we latch ourselves onto this sinking husk (the GOP) and go down with them a few decades from now? Would all of our accomplishments have been for nothing?

I believe the NRA should transform into a force to an entity that uses empirical data to completely end the gun control debate in America (and eventually the world) once in for all. Rather than focusing on winning victories against anti-gun opponents, we should focus on winning over our opponents. While many of our opponents are too far gone and oppose guns for purely emotional reasons (like Dianne Feinstein and Michael Bloomberg), I believe that most anti-Second Amendment people are merely misinformed and misguided; largely because our political/societal system promotes polarization (and hive-mind behavior) and suppresses independent thinking, but that's another topic altogether.

Anyway, I think I've gotten a bit too off-topic here. What I would like to do is work for the National Rifle Association, in any capacity, as a paid staff member. Right now I can't even afford to become a NRA member or even go to college full time. My parents make too much money for me to qualify for financial aid, but not enough money to fully fund my college education. I really want to work for the NRA and I definitely need more money to pay for college, despite working two jobs. I know that he NRA cares about their people and would do good for me, as I would do good for them, so it would be mutually beneficial. If anyone has any idea as to how I could fulfill this goal of mine, please give any advice or recommendations that you might have, I could really use it.
« Last Edit: February 09, 2014, 08:59:08 pm by Nakura »

 

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f anyone has any idea as to how I could fulfill this goal of mine, please give any advice or recommendations that you might have, I could really use it.

I would suggest you get in touch with anyone you've volunteered with in the NRA already and ask them. HLP, suffice to say, is not your local NRA recruitment station.

e: also your university career center should have some general employment information, too.

 

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Write this post, except to the NRA.

 

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f anyone has any idea as to how I could fulfill this goal of mine, please give any advice or recommendations that you might have, I could really use it.

I would suggest you get in touch with anyone you've volunteered with in the NRA already and ask them. HLP, suffice to say, is not your local NRA recruitment station.

That would be great, but my local Frontlines branch doesn't even have meetings or anything. It's basically a completely useless organization that basically sends members their bi-weekly newsletter regarding the gun rights movement. They don't actually do anything, which is somewhat disappointing. When I signed up to volunteer, I thought that I would be going to meetings and making connections, but that didn't exactly happen. We should be out educating and reaching new audience, I'd even go so far as to reach out to groups that have traditionally voted for Democrats (such as the LGBT community and blacks). Preaching to the choir might get you more money, but those people already believe in your agenda, perhaps we should reach out to those who don't?
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Re: Nakura wants to work for the NRA
Write this post, except to the NRA.

And probably take out some of the "my vision of what the NRA should be" kind of stuff? As much as I might hate to admit it, those in charge of the National Rifle Association probably don't share my views on what the NRA should be and would likely view me as a threat.

 

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Before you sign up, remember that the NRA isn't actually that interested in the gun owning public. They get most of their cash from the gun making companies and it's there that their true loyalties lie.
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Before you sign up, remember that the NRA isn't actually that interested in the gun owning public. They get most of their cash from the gun making companies and it's there that their true loyalties lie.
That's a distortion that anti-gun advocates commonly use, but what evidence do you have, karajorma? The NRA represents gun rights and that benefits everyone, whether they're a retired military veteran, a college student or a firearms manufacturer. The end result is the same regardless. Besides, if the NRA only cared about firearms manufacturers, they would be supporting all of these anti-private gun sales laws that were proposed last year. Firearms manufacturers lose money off of second-hand gun sales, it is in their best interest if these gun laws are passed. Even far more restrictive laws, such as the Assault Weapons ban, resulted in the gun industry raking in money, as they sold plenty of guns that complied with the ban.

 

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Write this post, except to the NRA.

^this^
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That's a distortion that anti-gun advocates commonly use, but what evidence do you have, karajorma? The NRA represents gun rights and that benefits everyone, whether they're a retired military veteran, a college student or a firearms manufacturer. The end result is the same regardless. Besides, if the NRA only cared about firearms manufacturers, they would be supporting all of these anti-private gun sales laws that were proposed last year. Firearms manufacturers lose money off of second-hand gun sales, it is in their best interest if these gun laws are passed. Even far more restrictive laws, such as the Assault Weapons ban, resulted in the gun industry raking in money, as they sold plenty of guns that complied with the ban.

Well they successfully lobbied to make it harder to get compensation if you are injured by your own gun if it was defective in some way. Does that sound like something a consumer advocacy group should be doing?
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That's a distortion that anti-gun advocates commonly use, but what evidence do you have, karajorma? The NRA represents gun rights and that benefits everyone, whether they're a retired military veteran, a college student or a firearms manufacturer. The end result is the same regardless. Besides, if the NRA only cared about firearms manufacturers, they would be supporting all of these anti-private gun sales laws that were proposed last year. Firearms manufacturers lose money off of second-hand gun sales, it is in their best interest if these gun laws are passed. Even far more restrictive laws, such as the Assault Weapons ban, resulted in the gun industry raking in money, as they sold plenty of guns that complied with the ban.

Well they successfully lobbied to make it harder to get compensation if you are injured by your own gun if it was defective in some way. Does that sound like something a consumer advocacy group should be doing?

I presume you are referring to the Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act? You do realize that the law exists to protect licensed gun stores and gun manufacturers from being sued for acts of violence, just because a criminal used a gun that they manufactured, right?
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Before you sign up, remember that the NRA isn't actually that interested in the gun owning public. They get most of their cash from the gun making companies and it's there that their true loyalties lie.
That's a distortion that anti-gun advocates commonly use, but what evidence do you have, karajorma? The NRA represents gun rights and that benefits everyone, whether they're a retired military veteran, a college student or a firearms manufacturer. The end result is the same regardless. Besides, if the NRA only cared about firearms manufacturers, they would be supporting all of these anti-private gun sales laws that were proposed last year. Firearms manufacturers lose money off of second-hand gun sales, it is in their best interest if these gun laws are passed. Even far more restrictive laws, such as the Assault Weapons ban, resulted in the gun industry raking in money, as they sold plenty of guns that complied with the ban.

it's like you are working for them already :p
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Re: Nakura wants to work for the NRA
Heh. He did say he wants to actually get paid for it though. :D

 

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That's a distortion that anti-gun advocates commonly use, but what evidence do you have, karajorma? The NRA represents gun rights and that benefits everyone, whether they're a retired military veteran, a college student or a firearms manufacturer. The end result is the same regardless. Besides, if the NRA only cared about firearms manufacturers, they would be supporting all of these anti-private gun sales laws that were proposed last year. Firearms manufacturers lose money off of second-hand gun sales, it is in their best interest if these gun laws are passed. Even far more restrictive laws, such as the Assault Weapons ban, resulted in the gun industry raking in money, as they sold plenty of guns that complied with the ban.

Well they successfully lobbied to make it harder to get compensation if you are injured by your own gun if it was defective in some way. Does that sound like something a consumer advocacy group should be doing?

You can read the full text of the law here. I don't see where your claim is supported, perhaps you could clarify?

From Section A:
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(3) Lawsuits have been commenced against manufacturers, distributors, dealers, and importers of firearms that operate as designed and intended, which seek money damages and other relief for the harm caused by the misuse of firearms by third parties, including criminals.

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(1) To prohibit causes of action against manufacturers, distributors, dealers, and importers of firearms or ammunition products, and their trade associations, for the harm solely caused by the criminal or unlawful misuse of firearm products or ammunition products by others when the product functioned as designed and intended.

As you can clearly see, the law would not prevent someone from suing a firearms manufacturer due to injuries sustained from a manufacturer defect.
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My mistake, they didn't successfully lobby for the change they wanted.

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In fact, when LaPierre and other NRA leaders have had to choose between the interests of their corporate sponsors and the safety of its gun-owning members, they've revealed where their loyalties really lie. In 2005, the NRA and the firearms manufacturers successfully lobbied for a law that provided gun manufacturers and distributors immunity from lawsuits from victims of gun violence -- legislation sponsored by GOP Sen. Larry Craig of Idaho, an NRA board member, and signed by President George W. Bush in October of that year. Little remembered, however, is that the NRA also lobbied for an amendment to that bill to limit the liability of firearm manufacturers for injuries to consumers caused by defective guns, a provision (which ultimately didn't pass) that would make it impossible for gun owners to sue the manufacturers.
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My mistake, they didn't successfully lobby for the change they wanted.

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In fact, when LaPierre and other NRA leaders have had to choose between the interests of their corporate sponsors and the safety of its gun-owning members, they've revealed where their loyalties really lie. In 2005, the NRA and the firearms manufacturers successfully lobbied for a law that provided gun manufacturers and distributors immunity from lawsuits from victims of gun violence -- legislation sponsored by GOP Sen. Larry Craig of Idaho, an NRA board member, and signed by President George W. Bush in October of that year. Little remembered, however, is that the NRA also lobbied for an amendment to that bill to limit the liability of firearm manufacturers for injuries to consumers caused by defective guns, a provision (which ultimately didn't pass) that would make it impossible for gun owners to sue the manufacturers.

Do you have the original source, because that "article" doesn't seem to cite it's sources?

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Wayne LaPierre, the National Rifle Association's $970,000-a-year CEO, does not speak for most gun owners or even most NRA members. Polls consistently show most gun owners and NRA members do not agree with the extremist views that LaPierre espouses in speeches, interviews and his testimony before Congress on Wednesday.

LaPierre represents two constituencies. He is primarily a corporate lobbyist for gun and ammunition manufacturers. They oppose any government regulations that limit their ability to sell more guns and make more profits, and LaPierre's rants reflect their interests. LaPierre also speaks for the ultra-right-wing "survivalist" wing of the NRA, whose members and activities overlap with racist hate groups who believe they need to prepare for an armed struggle against their own government.

So it was sickening to watch Wednesday's Senate hearings on gun violence and possible gun control laws and see Republican senators genuflect to LaPierre's outrageous comments and to witness some Democratic senators treating LaPierre as someone with any claim to expertise on gun matters.

Also, I'm not one to bash sources, but that doesn't sound very objective and scholarly to me, and those are just the first three paragraphs.
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dude, you totally need to work for them.
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dude, you totally need to work for them.

Thanks, now how should I go about contacting the NRA? Writing a letter to their headquarters? I really don't think that would work. I had a chance to meet Wayne La Pierre at CPAC last year in St. Louis, but I decided to save my money instead. Though to be honest, I don't think I would have been ready for such a tremendous responsibility a year ago.
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find their local thing, tell them you want to help.
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I think I just realized, a little more, how people actually get into politics in the US - and possibly everywhere.

Cartman, it reminds me of Eric Cartman.

 

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My mistake, they didn't successfully lobby for the change they wanted.

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In fact, when LaPierre and other NRA leaders have had to choose between the interests of their corporate sponsors and the safety of its gun-owning members, they've revealed where their loyalties really lie. In 2005, the NRA and the firearms manufacturers successfully lobbied for a law that provided gun manufacturers and distributors immunity from lawsuits from victims of gun violence -- legislation sponsored by GOP Sen. Larry Craig of Idaho, an NRA board member, and signed by President George W. Bush in October of that year. Little remembered, however, is that the NRA also lobbied for an amendment to that bill to limit the liability of firearm manufacturers for injuries to consumers caused by defective guns, a provision (which ultimately didn't pass) that would make it impossible for gun owners to sue the manufacturers.

Do you have the original source, because that "article" doesn't seem to cite it's sources?

Unfortunately not. I can't remember where  I originally read the story but that was the first link that showed up in a Google search. I did read about it in several places though.

As for the rest of your comments, you seem to have a problem with the tone they are using, but is anything factually incorrect?
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