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Offline BrotherBryon

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Re: God finally takes out the trash...
I find it hilariously ironic that this guy actually might go down as the single biggest contributor to the advancement of gay and lesbian rights in the US. People are so put off by this moron and his followers that it pushed many of those who were on the fence concerning gay and lesbian rights over to openly supporting them.

While I won't be celebrating his death I will however breath a sigh of relief that this asshole can no longer spew his messages of hate upon the world. Now if only his family will scatter to the four winds with his passing and quietly disappear from the public eye.
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Re: God finally takes out the trash...
Many that live deserve death. And some that die deserve life. etc, etc.
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Re: God finally takes out the trash...
A friend of mine made a great point: I really, really hope there are people waving signs outside his funeral.

 

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yeah, I think they are not the first to think that.
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Re: God finally takes out the trash...
I wonder what kind of sign they will be waving in his funeral. One thing for sure, I DO NOT want to be there.

 

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Re: God finally takes out the trash...
In the words of Richard Stallman: "I'm not glad he's dead, but I'm glad he's gone"
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Re: God finally takes out the trash...
I find it hilariously ironic that this guy actually might go down as the single biggest contributor to the advancement of gay and lesbian rights in the US. People are so put off by this moron and his followers that it pushed many of those who were on the fence concerning gay and lesbian rights over to openly supporting them.

I remember once reading the views of someone who was convinced that Phelps was actually a deep-cover liberal who was actually campaigning for gay rights but had realised that the best way to do that would be to discredit everyone against gay rights by making them look like like the bunch of homophobic wankers WBC appear to be.

I don't believe it personally. I think he really was as big a wanker as he appeared to be. But I do disagree with those who feel he didn't deliberately contribute anything to the world while he was here. Believe it or not, at one point Fred Phelps was an award-winning civil rights lawyer. Apparently he strongly defended black people on the grounds that no one gets to choose the colour of their skin. Pity he didn't believe the same thing about sexuality or weird as it might seem, today we might instead be sad over the death of one of the most crusading gay rights lawyers.
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Re: God finally takes out the trash...
Thing is, I know people who the WBC would have celebrated the death of purely because of their sexuality, so whilst I don't outright celebrate the death of Phelps, since that would be sinking down to his level, I do genuinely believe that America has been made a better place by the loss of his hatred.

I'd even say that he is allowed to believe anything he likes, that's Freedom of Speech, but his method of displaying that belief, to deliberately offend and insult other people at their most vulnerable is a high-contrast version of the entire problem with much of the World.

That's kind of why I'm against the idea of celebrating at his Funeral, because it would be sinking to his level, but that doesn't mean I feel any compassion for him or his family whatsoever.

 

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Re: God finally takes out the trash...
To quote the ever classy George Takei:
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I take no solace or joy in this man's passing. We will not dance upon his grave, nor stand vigil at his funeral holding "God Hates Freds" signs, tempting as it may be.

He was a tormented soul, who tormented so many. Hate never wins out in the end. It instead goes always to its lonely, dusty end.
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I came from chasing dreams to feel alone
There must be changes, miss to feel strong
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Offline Luis Dias

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Re: God finally takes out the trash...
A friend of mine made a great point: I really, really hope there are people waving signs outside his funeral.

"great point"? Sorry I don't agree at all.

 
Re: God finally takes out the trash...
It's going to happen anyway (although, thanks to the WBC, there are now laws preventing this).

  
Re: God finally takes out the trash...
If I were going to wave any sign outside his funeral, it would be more along the lines of "God loves all" than some petty tit-for-tat.
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Re: God finally takes out the trash...
It's going to happen anyway (although, thanks to the WBC, there are now laws preventing this).

From what I understand, only if he is buried in a national cemetery.
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Re: God finally takes out the trash...
In the words of Richard Stallman: "I'm not glad he's dead, but I'm glad he's gone"

Good attitude.  I like that.
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Re: God finally takes out the trash...
In the words of Richard Stallman: "I'm not glad he's dead, but I'm glad he's gone"

Good attitude.  I like that.

That's a good way of putting it.
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If I were going to wave any sign outside his funeral, it would be more along the lines of "God loves all" than some petty tit-for-tat.

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Re: God finally takes out the trash...
Well, since when Christianity taught people to embrace hatred? I wonder what got that SOB started with that sort of thing, it is just crazy. Imagine having the Scarlet Crusade in real life.

 

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"I've never wished a man dead, but I have read some obituaries with great pleasure."

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Re: God finally takes out the trash...
Damnit, Flipside, you beat me to it.  I had a killer thread title all picked out and everything.

Don't hold out on us!

"One can only hope that some of the people who actually *do* believe in Hell end up in it."

Actually, I saw a post somewhere suggesting the best way of commemorating the death of Mr. Phelps would be to line the streets around the cemetery with people saying nothing, but holding signs that simple say "God loves everyone."  Along the lines of PH's suggestion.

To those that believe they are taking the high road by refusing to celebrate a death, allow me to say:  there are some people whose existence has brought so much misery, pain, and suffering to others that their passing from this Earth is indeed a cause for celebration, much as I would celebrate the end polio, HIV, or any other source of suffering.  Phelps and his ilk belong firmly in that category.

God may love everyone, but I don't explicitly believe in God, nor am I so magnanimous.  Good riddance to trash.
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Offline Luis Dias

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There's no high road in death MP. I'm glad he's not here anymore but to actually go to the streets with billboards is silly and unjustified IMHO. It is my opinion, and I don't really care if others feel different and go do that kind of stuff. If it rocks their boats go ahead (it's not even as if they are showing Phelps anything, he's dead he won't see anything at all).

 

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I think that contrary to popular belief, life is not the highest value. It's pretty high up on the list, but there are situations where death is preferable. Either for the sake of oneself, or for the sake of others. People fear death, sure, but in the end, it's just a part of life. Different people handle it differently, but IMO, it's best to accept that it happens, because it does, to everyone, sooner or later. Life is just another thing a person has, important, but not the most important one. There's a whole lot more to living that just not dying.

Normally, death, even if wanted by the deceased, is a sad occurrence, because it means this person is gone from this world, and noone will ever see that person again. Any loss, especially one permanent like that, is very sad. In that case, though, the world has permanently shed one heck of a millstone around it's neck. There's not much of a loss in that case. How sad a death is is inversely proportional to how valuable a person was in life, and I'd say there wasn't a whole lot of value in that guy. While he might have done some positive things regarding minority rights, these are far outweighed by everything WBC has done.

I won't celebrate his death, but because there's little to celebrate. If he changed his views, it'd be worth celebrating, but he died a person as horrible as he was for a long time. A protest at his funeral would be nice as a way to demonstrate the old "Don't do unto others what you don't want done to yourself" rule to the rest of WBC, but nothing more. Perhaps also a chance to catch them on hypocrisy when they complain. I'm a firm believer in that if you do something to another person, you're also giving them implicit permission to do the same to you.