[Mr. Vega]

So, umm... what's /b/?

/b/ is to 4chan what 4chan is to the rest of the internet, it's 4chan's General Discussion, it's the source of 4chan's power reputation
4chan.org/b/ (it is NOT safe for work (or home unless you pay the mortgage), that not being a link was very much on purpose)

4chan, and in particular 4chan's /b/ has a reputation for being the darkest most edgy horrible place on the internet, so people who want to do the worst thing imaginable on the internet go there to be as horrible as they can possibly be. and any time that it gets an unusual level of interest the regulars spam it with porn and gore to scare all of the tourists away. /b/ is the place where people who were told that they can't do something on the internet go to do it. considering that and the fact that it is often called "the **** hole of the internet", it's not "that" bad, there are places on the internet MUCH worse, though many of them are sites for literal hate groups or criminal enterprises, but there is a huge gap there.

You don't get this stuff on most hate sites.

most of the other "SFW"* boards, /a/ /co/ /v/ /x/ are not significantly worse than HLP GenDisc. some might even be more civil (thinking /sci/ /g/ /p /po/)

I must have missed all the over the top anti-semetic threads in GenDisc, cause /v/ was filled with that stuff last time I checked it out.

Personally, I'm baffled why everyone feels the need to defend and downplay 4chan aside from some urge to offer up a contrary opinion. It is a cesspool. Everything organized on that site with the exception of Project Chanology has been pretty appalling (I apologize for applying actual moral principles to anything on the internet). I don't need to work hard to establish that. Give me a more interesting devil's advocate position to play.

[Bobboau]

I'll be perfectly honest, I don't go to /v/ very often, was assuming it was like /a/ and /co/, the only board I regular is /co/ and a few years ago /a/ (every now and then /x/ is fun too) so maybe it's as horrible as /pol/ or maybe you happened to visit it while /v/ and /pol/ had a common goal and thus /pol/ was essentially invading it. think about what brought you there and what happened on that board around that time, maybe you did not get a representative sample,

as far as murders posted on 4chan, well, it happens on FaceBook, YouTube, and twitter, and they don't have a reputation that would attract it. Any popular website is going to get that, and 4chan gets a lot of traffic..

[Mr. Vega]

think about what brought you there and what happened on that board around that time, maybe you did not get a representative sample,

Ok, since you made the GenDisc comparison, let's compare HLP at its worst with /v/ at its worst, and see what we get.

Personally, I'd rather like to avoid hanging out in a forum where there's a non-zero chance that at any one time it will be filled with threads about how the ethnic group my wife belongs needs to be put back in concentration camps. I'll stick to my echo chamber, thank you very much.

[Bobboau]

well, then you will avoid the entire internet, because there is a non-zero chance of that happening anywhere.

and certainly any part of 4chan has far worse extremes than HLP, I was referring to the average, I don't see what a few outliers has to do with anything,

echo chambers are boring and I can handle people saying things I don't like.

[Mr. Vega]

well, then you will avoid the entire internet, because there is a non-zero chance of that happening anywhere.

and certainly any part of 4chan has far worse extremes than HLP, I was referring to the average, I don't see what a few outliers has to do with anything,

Okay, I'd like you to estimate the probability that GenDisc will ever, at any one point in time, be filled with anti-semetic threads. Mods, feel free to give your guess as well.

echo chambers are boring and I can handle people saying things I don't like.

I was being sarcastic by implying that wanting to avoid antisemitism in my online discussion would make me guilty of seeking an echo chamber. Sailed right over your head. Unless you agree with that sentiment.

[Bobboau]

I figured you were using that as a reclaimed pejorative to refer to 'safe spaces' or something to that effect.

[Mr. Vega]

Nope, just wondering how far the bar was being lowered.

[Hobbie]

/b/ and /v/ are both filled with whiny teenagers, hence the cesspool. It's a far cry from the 'terror' that it was five years ago, ever since Moot stopped actually participating/caring.

Go to /tg/. That board has created entire tabletop game systems and written enough story content to fill several novels.

[Mr. Vega]

/b/ and /v/ are both filled with whiny teenagers, hence the cesspool. Go to /tg/. That board has created entire tabletop game systems and written enough story content to fill several novels.

Go to /tg/. That board has created entire tabletop game systems and written enough story content to fill several novels.

Did Katawa Shoujo get spawned off there?

[Bobboau]

no, that's from /a/

[Hobbie]

/b/ and /v/ are both filled with whiny teenagers, hence the cesspool. Go to /tg/. That board has created entire tabletop game systems and written enough story content to fill several novels.

Go to /tg/. That board has created entire tabletop game systems and written enough story content to fill several novels.

Did Katawa Shoujo get spawned off there?

No, that was a scattered bunch of independent 4chan users, plus other sites like Reddit and Tumblr. (EDIT: Yea, mostly /a/ from 4chan as well)

/tg/ are the ones that managed to create a tabletop version of Neon Genesis Evangelion using the Dark Heresy ruleset.

[Bobboau]

and to be clear we are talking about this game. (leery about where you are going with this...)

[Mr. Vega]

and to be clear we are talking about this game. (leery about where you are going with this...)

I'm not going anywhere with it. Just curious.

[Polpolion]

4chan is one of the moral dumps of the internet. Getting rid of it will only move the trash around. I have no problems with the anonymity and frankness of the website but largely laissez-faire moderation does not really help the content.

[Bobboau]

I'm not going anywhere with it. Just curious.

ok, well, like you (I assume) I have never and have no desire to play that game, but it's more due to the fact that the visual novel and romance/dating sim genre has no interest for me (although I may break down and play Saya no Uta one of these days). I have heard literally nothing but praise for that game, which surprised me as I was expecting it to be nothing more than an idiotic fetish piece. so if you have a negative impression of it, it's possible you prejudged it. because it's from 4chan. leading back to the theme of our dialog, maybe there is more to 4chan than you think there is.

[Mr. Vega]

I'm not going anywhere with it. Just curious.

ok, well, like you (I assume) I have never and have no desire to play that game, but it's more due to the fact that the visual novel and romance/dating sim genre has no interest for me (although I may break down and play Saya no Uta one of these days). I have heard literally nothing but praise for that game, which surprised me as I was expecting it to be nothing more than an idiotic fetish piece. so if you have a negative impression of it, it's possible you prejudged it. because it's from 4chan. leading back to the theme of our dialog, maybe there is more to 4chan than you think there is.

That post had more jumping to conclusions than Super Mario World.

[Bobboau]

more like going way out on a limb

[MP-Ryan]

I'm curious, have you ever gone there?

Yes.

4chan - and the fact that it hosts /b/ in the first place - is a cesspool.  It is, in fact, the greatest argument in favour of anti-anonymity measures and censorship on the Internet.  Fortunately, those of us who fight for civil liberties don't use one example as a case for draconian measures, but it certainly is tempting some days.

8chan is, of course, even worse, not that anyone really thought that was possible until someone managed to go and do it.

[AdmiralRalwood]

It should be noted that most of the Katawa Shoujo team aren't even channers. From their FAQ:

Q: Are you all Anonymous posters from 4chan?
A: No. Several of us browse 4chan occasionally, and we might post even more occasionally, but that's it.

That said, it doesn't change the fact that it all originated from a 4chan post, and I recommend the game to anyone that hasn't played it yet, even/especially if you've never played a dating sim before.

[MP-Ryan]

It should be noted that most of the Katawa Shoujo team aren't even channers. From their FAQ:

Q: Are you all Anonymous posters from 4chan?
A: No. Several of us browse 4chan occasionally, and we might post even more occasionally, but that's it.

That said, it doesn't change the fact that it all originated from a 4chan post, and I recommend the game to anyone that hasn't played it yet, even/especially if you've never played a dating sim before.

I have no interest in playing the game ("relationship sim" = bleh, anime = more bleh), but I did some searching about it after your post and it seems to have been fairly positively received.  Then I Googled some of YouTube clips of its "gameplay."

Yeah. I will not be installing that.  And this further entrenches my view of content spawned on/from 4chan. Pass.