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Offline jr2

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Re: Someone with Windows 7 Professional x64, I need a favour...
Oops. Sorry, just assumed it would work as you have a valid license; didn't think to check which site you'd tried.

 

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Re: Someone with Windows 7 Professional x64, I need a favour...
*LINK REMOVED*

Technically, this is piracy as no one here is authorized to redistribute MS software.

Please don't do that again, k, thanxs

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The phuck?
Not piracy. The iso's have always been worthless without a key (microsoft made it that way). Microsoft was even having them up for download. We don't need to know why microsoft yanked the downloads (probably because windows 7 entered extended support and to get more people encouraged to get up with the newer versions; and microsoft has a history of keeping the things that customers really like as temporary...my likely theory). It doesn't even matter if you download a windows iso with yourself not having a key; it's still not piracy. It's only piracy if you if you circumvent the key requirement.

Get an *REMOVED* If you disagree with me about downloading untouched pure windows isos, then you're wrong.
« Last Edit: February 26, 2015, 10:17:43 pm by rev_posix »
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Re: Someone with Windows 7 Professional x64, I need a favour...
Not piracy. The iso's have always been worthless without a key (microsoft made it that way). Microsoft was even having them up for download. We don't need to know why microsoft yanked the downloads (probably because windows 7 entered extended support and to get more people encouraged to get up with the newer versions; and microsoft has a history of keeping the things that customers really like as temporary...my likely theory). It doesn't even matter if you download a windows iso with yourself not having a key; it's still not piracy. It's only piracy if you if you circumvent the key requirement.

Get an *REMOVED* If you disagree with me about downloading untouched pure windows isos, then you're wrong.
Cite?

Unless you can point to a web site that absolutely states that it's perfectly legal for someone who is not authorized to offer ISO's of Microsoft's software for download, we have to go with past experience and legal president that they consider it piracy (or at the very least a violation of the EULA that can get one in a bit of legal trouble).  The only official way to get them in the past was the Digital River site or whatever MSDN used.  What you linked to appeared to not be one, therefore I removed it.

Note that the web pages that have those old links to Digital River are almost all universally titled how to legally download an ISO?

Disagree all you like and debate it in good faith, but as I stated, unless you can provide a link from a Microsoft site that says it's OK, we have to go with what I originally posted.

No more links to download sites that are not Microsoft or officially allowed by Microsoft.
« Last Edit: February 26, 2015, 10:44:37 pm by rev_posix »
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Re: Someone with Windows 7 Professional x64, I need a favour...
My point is microsoft is wrong to call it piracy since it isn't, the treating of a physical and iso copy of windows without keys as gold (they're designed for limited use without a key, how is this gold?), and damn them for trying to make people feel criminalized when all they did was lose their installation disc. I doubt i'm going to find anywhere that will cite where it states that it's perfectly legal, because that would be good for the sheeple and not company profits.

Yes i understand following microsofts bull**** saying you can only get copies from an authorized dealer just to keep people potentially safe from retard litigation. However, if you download an untouched windows iso anywhere, what is exactly illegal for something that is harmless as this? This certainly is not illegal, lawyers and other higher ups have probably convinced enough people it is that maybe this is law somewhere. It shouldn't even be considered bad in the EULA. It's all about nickel and diming to make you think you have to buy a replacement when a disc is lost and criminalizing something so basic to computer use (getting a hold of a backup copy if you have lost your own). This isn't the first time a company or in some cases and industry takes to handing out mistruths for gain (my favorite is the purported illegalities of second sale (which is legal)).

I did take note to the fact that i didn't link to anything from an official microsoft authorized download (i guess you didn't take my note that i was quite well obviously pre-noted, not trying to be an asshole, i thought i presented myself previously in such a tone good willed obvious defiance). That copy i linked to works fine. Downloaded it before for fixing a customers windows 7 pc. I recommend just googling and getting a copy if people have lost their disc and just need to reinstall, or perhaps just copying a friends disc if that's closer by for it to be faster. I got into pc  for a while, and I get into pc again when the need arises for someone without a disc.
Every pilot's goal is to rise up in the ranks and go beyond their purpose to a place of command on a very big ship. Like the colossus; to baseball bat everyone.

SMBFD

I won't use google for you.

An0n sucks my Jesus ring.

 

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Re: Someone with Windows 7 Professional x64, I need a favour...
No, the point is that no one here is authorized to redistribute Microsoft software and/or IP.

From https://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/windows/xp/all/proddocs/en-us/lic_what_is_piracy.mspx :

"Software piracy is the unauthorized copying, reproduction, use, or manufacture of software products."

Debate on if they are right or not to call it that is a separate topic.

Frankly, I don't care what side of the fence one sits on, this is what their enforcement groups use as their definition, and being that HLP is physically housed in the US, we have to adhere to it.

For the record, I don't consider myself 'above the law' in regards to HLP, I'm a proponent of open source, and most of my infrastructure at home is open source stuff (Linux, FreeBSD).  But with that admin tag on my profile name over on the side comes the responsibility to do what I can to make sure the relevant laws and such are not broken within the confines of HLP, regardless if others or myself agree with them.

As this thread has run it's course in regards to the original topic and is venturing into opinion and possibility emotionally charged waters, this thread is now locked.
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"Although generally it is considered a no no to disagree with a mod since it's pretty much equivalent to kicking an unpaid janitor in the nuts while he's busy cleaning up somebody elses vomit and then telling them how bad they are at cleaning it up cause you can smell it down the hall." - Dennis, Home Improvement Moderator @ DSL Reports

"wow, some people are thick and clearly can't think for themselves - the solution is to remove warning labels from poisons."