[Bobboau]

article about what I'm talking about

Original Gawker garbage: https://archive.is/EUkg0

TL;DR
Gawker outed Conde Nast CFO as gay because why not? In the process acted as the payload for blackmail.

[Grizzly]

Anyone who thinks that it's journalism to help a blackmailer deserves to be taken down a few notches.

EDIT: I fully concede to scotty's fix

[Scotty]

Anyone who thinks that it's journalism to help a blackmailer deserves to be taken down a few notches.

FTFY

[AdmiralRalwood]

"If it's true, publish" is basically the opposite of responsible journalism.

[Flipside]

The correct phrase is 'publish and be damned', which is referring to relevant stories that can only be verified to a certain level.

Basically, the theory is that it is better to get into trouble for posting semi-verifiable concerns that, for example, the Tax Minister is siphoning funds, than not post those concerns and find out at a later date that he was.

But the phrase 'public interest' plays a very large role in that decision. criminal behaviour is one thing, but sexual infidelity is another. The UK went through this with footballers, and it got such a running joke that British Newspapers have been quietly dialling back the number of 'Football Affair' stories they make prominent.

[Luis Dias]

A few updates. Apparently, Gawker took down the piece, but there's a firestorm in the workers union because apparently the decision was made not by the staff but by the higher ups, and they feel they were wronged by that decision: http://politburo.gawker.com/a-statement-from-the-gawker-media-editorial-staff-1718649722

Also, I've been hearing rumours that the whole fiasco was a trap and that Gawker took the bait. But this is very unconfirmed hush hush rumour talk.

[Bobboau]

well after the hulk hogan thing didn't they loose their lawsuit insurance?
man I can only hope they go out of business. One less misery peddler in the world.

[Ghostavo]

Gawker's self-righteous hypocrisy about what they consider publishable material is baffling.

Almost makes me wish one of the competing media companies would start doing similar articles on Gawker's staff to see how they liked when their private life was publicly exposed, to allow for a "frank and lively debate" as they like to call it.

[Luis Dias]

Milo Yannooossmth made a piece on the "ten worst guys" in Gawker. But I won't llnk it here because I know people hate that guy too. Ain't the media filled with lovable people?

[Bobboau]

well, you'd be surprised how quick people can turn around on these things, enemy of my enemy, or the reverse of that.
On that subject I do happen to know of a group of people who have been organizing a dedicated effort to run Gawker specifically out of business for about a year now, but they are a bunch of baby seal clubbers.

[Grizzly]

Milo Yannooossmth made a piece on the "ten worst guys" in Gawker. But I won't llnk it here because I know people hate that guy too. Ain't the media filled with lovable people?

Well, yeah, he has done everything that Gawker is being criticized for so...
But, well, Gawker or Breitbart aren't "The Media". They are just small loudmouth segments of "the media". It's not like they are hard to shut out.

[Phantom Hoover]

Yeah, The Media respects boundaries like private voicemail accounts

[Grizzly]

Yeah, The Media respects boundaries like private voicemail accounts

Keep calm and buy the Gaurdian.

[Phantom Hoover]

true, they manage to stay relatively decent through the bold strategy of constantly haemorrhaging money

[Luis Dias]

People still take the guardian seriously in 2015?

[Bobboau]

anyone who is in the process of buying ink by the tanker truck is someone you would be well advised to take seriously.

[Grizzly]

People still take the guardian seriously in 2015?

You say that after bringing up Milo, who writes **** like this (NSFW), as somehow a good thing? As opposed to the Gaurdian, which is such a sterling example of stalwart journalism that it wins awards and that David Cameron orders break ins to see what they have on him (Snowden works with the Guardian)? If you are going to make that comparison, you're picking a live vulcano as your hill to die on.

[The E]

I think you misunderstood Luis. He doesn't actually like that Milo guy, he's just following a movement that has declared him "good" for some reason. His comment was more about two idiots (well, one idiot and an organization apparently staffed with idiots) fighting it out.

[Luis Dias]

There's a typical response of besieged groups wherein the standards they have towards their "allies" decline the more you feel besieged. Back in the atheist wars, everyone said "Well, PZ Myers might be an asshole, but he's *our* asshole". Well, look at how that turned out. Quite the lesson for me. No, assholes be assholes, even if they are dropping quite the truthbombs that others fail to drop (one could theorize, successfully, that one does need to be an asshole to say the truthbombs when they are unfashionable). I do read him from time to time because in the midst of all the jackassery, he does have content. And in TV, he's actually quite behaved, sharp, well spoken and to the point. It helps that in those venues, he's been the one with the truth on his side.

[The E]

Is it truth, or things you find agreeable?