[mjn.mixael]

Anyone been using Win 10? I'm not sure if I want to upgrade my creative rig just yet. I'm worried about it breaking older apps like 3ds Max 2010, or Adobe Suite CS5. Anyone have any experience here?

[jr2]

Dual-boot it until you're certain it will work? 

Heck, or just plain upgrade; 10 has an uninstall option so that should be fine; if it doesn't work, uninstall it.

I'd go dual-boot, though, that's what I'm doing now.

[The E]

Dual-boot it until you're certain it will work? 

Heck, or just plain upgrade; 10 has an uninstall option so that should be fine; if it doesn't work, uninstall it.

I'd go dual-boot, though, that's what I'm doing now.

Because dual-booting is easy and not being able to use productivity software for a day won't cost anything.

That said, there shouldn't be anything in Win 10 that breaks those programs; If they work under 8, they should be fine under 10.

[Fury]

Eww, dual-booting is an annoyance I would not wish upon anyone.

This is what Autodesk has to say about OS compatibility in regards to Windows 8 and 8.1:
http://knowledge.autodesk.com/support/autocad/troubleshooting/caas/sfdcarticles/sfdcarticles/Windows-8-Support-for-Autodesk-products.html

Autodesk product versions of 2010 and earlier are no longer supported and are not included in considerations of Windows 8 compatibility.

So who knows, maybe it works, maybe it doesn't. Googling didn't reveal a definite answer to whether 2010 products work properly under Win8 or not. But I found few references to problems under Win8, so that does not bode well.

http://www.polycount.com/forum/showthread.php?t=116625
http://isiforums.net/f/showthread.php/11913-3ds-Max-2010-bug-in-Windows-8
http://forums.3dtotal.com/showthread.php?t=114217
http://forums.revora.net/topic/87613-3ds-max-8-and-windows-8/

And this is what Adobe says:
https://helpx.adobe.com/x-productkb/global/windows-8-1-compatability.html

Adobe Photoshop® CS5, CS4, and CS3 were also tested with Windows 8.1 and there are currently no known major issues.

Looks like Adobe products should be good to go on Windows 10.

Also, if you have the Windows 10 upgrade notification icon in your task bar, use it to determine compatibility of hardware and software. Although any compatibility list MS might have gathered will never reliably cover all software, driver and hardware combinations.
http://www.zdnet.com/article/will-your-pc-run-windows-10-use-this-well-hidden-compatibility-checker-to-find-out/

[jr2]

How about using Win 10 in a VirtualBox to test program compatibility before upgrading?

[Fury]

3ds Max requires GPU hardware acceleration. so Virtualbox probably does not work and even if it does, it may give different experience from real hardware.

[karajorma]

Eww, dual-booting is an annoyance I would not wish upon anyone.

Me neither. I've never understood why anyone holds up dual-booting as a good thing. All that it generally means for me is that I have to stop anything that is downloading (via browser, usenet or torrents), close all my programs, wait 2 minutes to shutdown and start up again in the new OS. Shutdown again cause I got distracted and let the OS I was using boot back up. Boot the correct OS. Open the program with compatibility problems. Go through the same bull**** if I then have to use the main OS again.

My free time is important to me. Reinstalling an OS, installing an OS for dual-boot or doing any kind of VitualBox testing is going to take the better part of an entire day before I have everything working the way I'd want. It's just simply not worth it. Which is why I've repeatedly said I'll wait 10 months before instaling Windows 10 so that I can let other people deal with the bull**** of having things break first.

[Fury]

Windows 10 Pro includes Hyper-V, it is quite slick and easy way to run virtual machines. To use it you need x86-64 CPU with Intel VT or AMD-V support, which are supported by all remotely modern CPUs. So that is one way to get old software to run, but I don't know whether it is usable solution for 3ds Max for the same reason as VirtualBox mentioned earlier.

I've been running Windows 10 Pro for several months now, including Hyper-V virtual machine where I installed another Windows 10 Pro for vpn purposes. Works well.

http://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/2087-hyper-v-virtualization-setup-use-windows-10-a.html

[Gray]

Running 3Ds Max in a VM is possible to a degree, but i wouldn't recommend it to anyone.
The viewports in Max, basically your working area, require GPU Hardware and drivers to display the content.

In a VM, only the UI is displayed, which makes it about as useful as a car without the engine.

[mjn.mixael]

I'm currently on Win 7... so hmm. Perhaps I'll go with my alternate plan and build a new rig. Then I can transfer my productivity over bit by bit without losing a day.

[Luis Dias]

So new to the world, and yet already producing memes!



.... I think I'll wait a bit until they sort it all out.

[Mongoose]

To be fair you could slap a Windows 95 skin on that message box and still have it be completely accurate.

[Luis Dias]

I had never seen a "Something Happened" error. Might have missed it! Anyways, it's an hilarious one.

[jr2]

...Yeah, I've never seen that error either.

Worth a mention, however:  Win 10 definitely saves your old install (puts everything in \Windows.old) so that you can revert it if necessary.  This is reliable in my experience (when Win 10 has a new build, it upgrades and leaves the old build in \Windows.old ... since I have 10 installed on a rather small partition, if I didn't clean up the temp files before it auto-upgraded, the upgrade would fail, and automatically roll back.  This happened at least 7 times, probably more like a dozen.  Zero issues rolling back.)


As well, you can have Win 10 take an image backup of your current install.  So there's that.

[Luis Dias]

Hm. I have a recent setup, and I did buy a SSD disk for my windows partition. However, it is small, it's a paltry 128 GB (I just keep windows and work programs in there). I will have to see if I have enough disk space to do all these shenanigans. If Win10 saves \Windows.old in that drive and *that's it*, I'll be somewhat annoyed.

[jr2]

\Windows.old contains:

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Microsoft Windows [Version 10.0.10240]
(c) 2015 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

C:\Users\Joshua>dir c:\windows.old
 Volume in drive C is Win 10
 Volume Serial Number is 3630-0785

 Directory of c:\windows.old

07/28/2015  21:10    <DIR>          .
07/28/2015  21:10    <DIR>          ..
05/14/2015  05:15    <DIR>          PerfLogs
07/28/2015  17:28    <DIR>          Program Files
07/28/2015  17:28    <DIR>          Program Files (x86)
07/28/2015  21:10    <DIR>          Recovery
07/28/2015  20:50    <DIR>          Users
07/28/2015  17:34    <DIR>          WINDOWS
               0 File(s)              0 bytes
               8 Dir(s)   6,548,574,208 bytes free

C:\Users\Joshua>

[Scourge of Ages]

So new to the world, and yet already producing memes!

FTFY

[MP-Ryan]

So, has anyone here gotten the rollout yet?

I, sadly, have not

[Mongoose]

I just got Win 7 last week, so I'm gonna wait a good several months before I even think about whether to upgrade.  Let the early adopters find all the kinks in it.

[Luis Dias]

It saves windows.old under \users? With all the previous programs as well? ****ing hell. Jesus F Christ.