[Pegasus V]

Has anyone ever assemled a list of the crew compliments of the various FS ships?

Well I have. Mixing canon facts (from ship descriptions), and estimates based on the size of the vessel, I have got a good idea of the crew compliments and max capacity of all the Freespace1/2 ships (excluding Shivan). I've also assembled the fighter/bomber compliment.

Based on this examination, I've got a rough estimate of the amount of civilians that you were trying to save at the end of FreeSpace2. It's just over 8,000. Yes that's right, that's all! There were more people on military ships in the area. Still, it's all good.

Some canon facts: The Hecate has a crew of about 10,000, while the Colossus has a crew of over 30,000. The Hermes escape pod can hold 20 people. You'd need 500 escape pods to completely evacuate a Hecate destroyer, but that would ne downright nutty.
Some non-canon facts: Due to its small size the Vasudan Isis transport can only hold about 30 people. If configured as a personel transport, the Ra escape pod can hold about the same compliment as an Isis. The Terran's Argo transport, on the other hand, can hold up to 550 people. At over 2 kilometres, an Orion destroyer has a crew compliment of 8,000. Occording to Allied Command, if all systems are set on automatic an Orion destroyer can be operated by a skeleton crew of 250 for at least a week. But it would struggle if taken into combat.

-edit- Got rid of the mile thingo... I live in Australia, I only know metric.

[Kitsune]

I'd love to get a copy of that myself, but is there any way you can have it as a word .doc format instead of excel?

Not everyone uses spreadsheets.

Thankee.

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It's mentioned that although the escape pods are on board every GTVA vessel.  However they do not have enough for everyone to escape on.

Hell, at least in the navy they have life jackets for everyone on a ship.  (And with inflatable rafts, a good number of people don't even have to stay in the water.)

[Pegasus V]

Originally posted by Kitsune
I'd love to get a copy of that myself as a word .doc.
Thankee.

No probs, I'll see what I can do.

Originally posted by Kitsune
It's mentioned that although the escape pods are on board every GTVA vessel.  However they do not have enough for everyone to escape on. Hell, at least in the navy they have life jackets for everyone on a ship.  (And with inflatable rafts, a good number of people don't even have to stay in the water.)

Captain: All hands abandon ship!
Officer: Ah, but sir...
Captain: I said abandon ship.
* Pop * :doh:

[Knight Templar]

hey can u count me in too? for the word doc.

email = [email protected]

[Pegasus V]

Originally posted by Knight Templar
hey can u count me in too? for the word doc.

No worries. , I might just make it into a webpage.
I'll report here when it's up on www.geocities.com/alpha_quadrant_project/concept.html

By the way, I've just started updating the nodemap. The factual details are in the white and the blue is Freespace canon (but I'll have to research for that first). I've temporarily completed the bottom half of the map.
www.geocities.com/alpha_quadrant_project/nodemap.html

[Hippo]

http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,8606.0.html

[LtNarol]

1 mile is something like 1.7 kilometers, the Orion is 2023 meters in length i believe, that makes it about 1.15 miles long...as for the pods, well...heh

[Pegasus V]

Originally posted by LtNarol
1 mile is something like 1.7 kilometers, the Orion is 2023 meters in length i believe, that makes it about 1.15 miles long...as for the pods, well...heh

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[StratComm]

Pegasus, your node map is missing Epsilon Pegasi.  It's there, but not labeled.  Should be the other system connecting to Capella.

[Pegasus V]

Originally posted by StratComm
Pegasus, your node map is missing Epsilon Pegasi.  It's there, but not labeled.  Should be the other system connecting to Capella.

Thankyou StratComm. I haven't got around to fixing that yet. It is now fixed, along with the nebula links, etc.

[Hippo]

1mi=1.609344km

[Pegasus V]

While there has been some controversy with the Argo (I believe it would be 550), the Elysium has pretty much been solved now. The Elysium can hold at least 200 people. It was in a mission debreifing, so it is canon.

[CP5670]

That sounds fine, but 200 seems quite high considering the ship's size. (although it is still possible) It might be like the Sobek thing, where the number was severely overstated, but this doesn't look nearly as bad. (our basis for this stuff is 10k for the destroyers, so it can be compared with that)

Also, if you want to know where some of the ship's components are, try taking a closer look at the command briefing animations. (especially the FS1 and ST ones) Several of them contain diagrams that indicate and label the ship components; I was looking at the Hades one yeaterday and found out some interesting stuff about the various parts of the ship.

Hell, at least in the navy they have life jackets for everyone on a ship. (And with inflatable rafts, a good number of people don't even have to stay in the water.)

Yes, but in space you would need to completely load a ship down with escape pods to accomodate everyone. Think of it...a destroyer has reached critical status and is about to go down, and suddenly a huge exodus of 500 escape pods rush out and run all over the place.

[Pegasus V]

Originally posted by CP5670
That sounds fine, but 200 seems quite high considering the ship's size. (although it is still possible) It might be like the Sobek thing, where the number was severely overstated, but this doesn't look nearly as bad. (our basis for this stuff is 10k for the destroyers, so it can be compared with that)

I does seem overstated doesn't it? Both the Elysiums and the Sobeks. I originally estimated the Elysium's maximum capacity would be about 120. And the Sobek's to be about 900, certainly not 6,000.

I was looking at the Hades one yeaterday and found out some interesting stuff about the various parts of the ship.

Yeah? Like what?

Yes, but in space you would need to completely load a ship down with escape pods to accomodate everyone. Think of it...a destroyer has reached critical status and is about to go down, and suddenly a huge exodus of 500 escape pods rush out and run all over the place.

I didn't want to mention Star Trek in here, but the Enterprise-E is covered with escape pods. They certainly have enough for the entire crew (I think the standard crew count is 1,000). Watch Star Trek III: First Contact - They have a huge exodus of escape pods that run all over the place.

[Su-tehp]

Originally posted by aldo_14
Orion  = 10,000 (SM1-10 - "Don't be absurd Koth! You are sacrificing 10 thousand lives for nothing")

Yeah, I remember this, too. Pegasus, the crew complement of an Orion is 10,000, not 8,000. When the Colossus blasts Koth's Orion flagship in the original campaign, the above statement gets said. So it is canon.

Just my two cents.

[Kazashi]

With the ongoing discussion concerning ship sizes, I just thought I'd throw a quick, and relatively dirty, something together to remind people of the size comparisons between people and ships:

Click for image

Note that the ship is to scale, a full 2km+ long. That bunch of squares next to it is 10,000 people (average height of 1.8m, 100 people per little square standing about 85cm apart left-right, 1.6m front-back) also to scale. Now imagine them spread out throughout the Orion, even accounting for void spaces....

[Hippo]

Originally posted by Pegasus V

I didn't want to mention Star Trek in here, but the Enterprise-E is covered with escape pods. They certainly have enough for the entire crew (I think the standard crew count is 1,000). Watch Star Trek III: First Contact - They have a huge exodus of escape pods that run all over the place.

I counted them, and got atleast 42, but they can have so many cause they form part of the outer hull on the dish section...

[LtNarol]

Originally posted by CP5670
Yes, but in space you would need to completely load a ship down with escape pods to accomodate everyone. Think of it...a destroyer has reached critical status and is about to go down, and suddenly a huge exodus of 500 escape pods rush out and run all over the place.

...well, I hope you don't mind defending some 60 pods I have set up to show up when the H.....a certain ship in my campaign goes down

[karajorma]

Originally posted by Kazashi
With the ongoing discussion concerning ship sizes, I just thought I'd throw a quick, and relatively dirty, something together to remind people of the size comparisons between people and ships:

Click for image

Note that the ship is to scale, a full 2km+ long. That bunch of squares next to it is 10,000 people (average height of 1.8m, 100 people per little square standing about 85cm apart left-right, 1.6m front-back) also to scale. Now imagine them spread out throughout the Orion, even accounting for void spaces....

Well they say that a picture is worth a thousend words. Wish you`d chosen 6,000 and a deimos though A deimos would be about 1/3 the size and have just over 1/2 the people on that image.
 Of course this simple explaination doesn`t take into account the space taken up by crew quarters, mess halls etc but it does show that 8,000 people wcould fit onto an Orion

[CP5670]

That is an interesting image. Although it should also be kept in mind that only about 10-15% of the ship's total volume is delegated to crew spaces. (recall the colossus cutscene)

Yeah? Like what?

Let's see:

Command Center
ATAK B04 Defense Cannon
Main Research and Life Facilities
RTECH-0982 Xenon-Zarium Proto Engines
Advanced Info-R Array
ZCore Stabilization System
SH-TECH ETC191
X-Z Tech Combustion Chambers
Direction Output Conductor
Verification DB Controls
EM Lock Supports
Tri-Van Outtake Valves

The animation gives the locations of all these things. Lots of information in these; I think I might compile a list of these components.