[Kazashi]

Originally posted by karajorma

Wish you`d chosen 6,000 and a deimos though

I did this just for you

Deimos size comparison with 6,000 people. A much tighter fit, but if you can imagine them squashed in somewhat submarine conditions, then it could be done.

[beatspete]

Originally posted by karajorma

 A deimos would be about 1/3 the size and have just over 1/2 the people on that image.
 

It may be 1/3 the length, but think about volume, which is the important bit.  Think about the collosus cut scene.  It said the collosus could fit 20 Lucifer class ships within its hull.  But the collosus is just 3.3 (ish) times longer than the lucifer.  So volume is important.
A diemos, about 1/3 the length of an orion, 1/3 as wide, 1/3 as tall, gives you 1/27 the volume.  Where this puts the crew compliment of a diemos i dont know.  It doesnt have a fighter bay, so would have more space combared to an orion of the same size, but it wouldnt need crew to support the fighter bay.  Also i thought a diemos had newer armour platting than an orion which may change the volume up or down.

[Thor]

I am just weird or is the Orion in the size comparision different.  It looks like the hangar is on the wrong side.  Thats kind of cool, if it is, and deserves to be put in the game, Think Orion A, Orion B

[CP5670]

I think if you convert it with Cob2Pof the entire model somehow gets mirrored.

[Pegasus V]

I love those comparison images! Great work!

I was doing some research yesterday on Australian warships. Our frigate class is larger than a destroyer, however, the destroyer holds a larger crew. Perhaps on ships that are designed for war (like Corvettes in FS2, they are especially designed for war), they have a bigger crew compliment. The destroyers from FS are multi-role vessels. They can do a variety of tasks from surveilance and scientific research to offensive attacks and blockades. The fact that they're not 100% designed for war, gives them a smaller crew capacity compared to a corvette (10,000-6,000, but an Orion is several times larger than a Sobek). This is just my reasoning in my head to explain these figures.

Hey Kazashi, how long and how much effort did it take you to make those images? Do you think you could do a comparison with all the ships? Two ship I would love to see comparisons with is the Elysium and the Argo.

Cheers.

[StratComm]

6000 in a corvette still seems like sort of a stretch to me.  When I saw the deimos size thing, I got the picture in my head of (I know I'll get laughed at to no end here for this) a scene in an episode of SpongeBob Squarepants.  [Sort of] the scene:

http://www.geocities.com/cek_83/spongebobscene.html

Yeah, go ahead.  Laugh.  If it isn't obvious, the fish are anchovies.  I think 6000 people in a Deimos would look roughly like that.

I know it is mentioned somewhere (...6000 Vasudans gave their lives...) for the Sobek, but it isn't like FS2 doesn't have the odd inconsistancy.  I think the Terran ships may have better automation systems in them, allowing them to operate with a smaller crew, but 1000-2000 in a Deimos seems about right given its size.  6000 people seems like it'd be a really tight squeeze.

[Pegasus V]

Originally posted by StratComm
6000 people seems like it'd be a really tight squeeze.

Indeed. I'd think 2000 would be pushing to too. My original estimates for the corvettes was about 900-1000.

[Petrarch of the VBB]

When Koth's ship rams the colossus, does not the captain of the colossus talk about 1200 decks?!? That just seems a bit odd to me. Surely it cant have that many.

[Su-tehp]

Originally posted by Petrarch of th VBB
When Koth's ship rams the colossus, does not the captain of the colossus talk about 1200 decks?!? That just seems a bit odd to me. Surely, it cant have that many.

The Colossus is said to be able to contain 12 Lucifers in its hull (according to the cutscene). 1200 decks does seem like a stretch, but I think it might be possible.

And don't call me Shirley.

[Petrarch of the VBB]

Originally posted by Su-tehp


And don't call me Shirley.

Truly great film,

"And in lighter news, hundred of capitalists will die...."

[ShadowWolf_IH]

on a US navy submarine, the bunk is only yours half the time.  You get it for 12 hours, and the other guy gets it for the other 12.  I would hope that this would change by the year 2300, but when it comes down to it doesn't have to.  This could greatly increase the number of personnel on a ship, let's just hope that your bunk mate isn't a total dirtball, and takes a shower when he gets done with work.

[Pegasus V]

Check out my ship stats page I've finally composed:

http://www.geocities.com/alpha_quadrant_project/shipstats.html

[Kitsune]

When I was in I never recalled running into any dirtballs like that who wouldn't shower.
Because really, if someone did there'd be a protest and the guy hauled off into the shower to clean himself.
Cause there were 45 people in my berthing and we were damned if it was going to smell.

(Was GSM, sitting in an engine room for 4-6 hours a day that at 110+ degrees was horrible, I showered like twice a day on average, most times three.)

But anyways, you've got to take into account the full capacity of a ship fully staffed, what it could run at...  Then you think about how many marines they carry, do they support flag staff, extra passengers possible, pilots, hangar crew/flight ops, spacecraft support vehicles and crew...  There are a lot that separate from the normal "ship's crew" down to "who runs the ship?" and "who's extra that do other related stuff?"

2,000 total bodies on a Deimos makes sense to me.
A crew of say, 1,400 on average, up to 1,600 standard with the rest being extra bodies, marines for assault purposes or for shipboard defences in case of a raid to capture the ship (I doubt ALL NTF ships were simply 'defected crew'.)  Can support a flag staff, so that could be up to 100 or so just to guard and follow and assist a fleet admiral who's there over the captain...

Gah, rambling again...

[Pegasus V]

Huh???

[Su-tehp]

Pegasus, make that ship list as a downloadable doc file and I'll love you forever.

BTW, are you sure that the GTM Hippocrates can hold only 770 passengers? The database entry says that it is capable of giving medical aid "to thousands of patients" and is also capable of moving large numbers of refugees.

[Pegasus V]

Originally posted by Su-tehp
BTW, are you sure that the GTM Hippocrates can hold only 770 passengers? The database entry says that it is capable of giving medical aid "to thousands of patients" and is also capable of moving large numbers of refugees.

Oh yeah. I forgot about that thanks for pointing it out. But it is very small to house thousands of patients, that's probably why I set it at 770. Perhaps I can justify it by saying it can give medical aid to thousands of patients every day. That way it would give medical aid to 500 people at a time, but during the day it could aid thousands of patients. Meh. (by the way, that's my first meh)

Originally posted by Su-tehp
Pegasus, make that ship list as a downloadable doc file and I'll love you forever.

I'll see what I can do...

[Pegasus V]

Originally posted by Su-tehp
Pegasus, make that ship list as a downloadable doc file and I'll love you forever.

Here you go Su-tehp: ShipStats Word Document

If the link doesn't work, just copy and paste it into the address bar

[Su-tehp]

Ok, I got it. I'll take a look-see on this and I'll let you know if there are any issues to be resolved.

Oh, if you can make another ship comparison picture, this time of the GTM Hippocrates, that would be great. I'm trying to figure out if 2000-3000 people could fit onto the Hippocrates (I'm thinking it would be a tight fit at best).

[Petrarch of the VBB]

I cant get it to work, even if I paste it into the address bar.

[Pegasus V]

Originally posted by Petrarch of th VBB
I cant get it to work, even if I paste it into the address bar.

The web page or the .doc? The web page might not work without Excel.