[Bobboau]

Why the **** won't this horrible thing die? oh, that's right , because money and politics selects for the most power hungry sociopaths in the country.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/10/28/evil-internet-bill-cispa-is-back-from-the-dead-now-cleverly-titled-cisa.html

https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2015/10/eff-disappointed-cisa-passes-senate

(note the date on this one, this is a old fight)
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2417993,00.asp

If you are a US citizen, here is the last line of defense that might still have an effect. find your representative and tell them what the ****?!?
I did why haven't you? why do you hate freedom and democracy and enjoy punching poor defenseless bald eagles? if you don't you would have found your representative and made it clear you do not approve of this sort of thing. all the cool kids are doing it.

[est1895]

Hi Bobboau.

I agree and to not speak is to speak.

That's my two cents.

[Bobboau]

Three years ago a CISPA, a fatally flawed Bill died in the senate. Today they give you a nearly identical bill that is going to severely damage privacy online if passed and help no one. You have a chance to stop this bill from passing and when you get that chance you need to say NO if you want my vote in 2016. I will take note of this vote and support the candidate who helps protect my rights to privacy. If this will be you or Ms Hayworth is up to you when you cast your vote on the horrid abomination that is CISA.

what was everyone else's message to their representative?

[Turambar]

Sorry, the local Comcast office has way more speech than me.

[Bobboau]

especially when you don't talk.

[Bobboau]

could you at least take five seconds to sign a toothless symbolic online petition? or is your symbolic act to express how cool you are because you don't care?

https://www.change.org/p/protect-internet-privacy-stop-cisa

[Turambar]

It's not a symbolic act, and those petitions are pretty meaningless, I just don't think i can convince Orrin Hatch and Mia Love to vote against Republican party values.

[Bobboau]

You have expended aproximatly the same amount of effort trying to justify doing nothing as it would have taken to have sent an angry bit of rabble to your representitive, who can not orin btw because he is a senator and this thing has already passed the senate. It's in the house now, which is the branch of Congress more easily swaied by public backlash.

It costs you nothing just do a little so as not to be complicit with it.

[Klaustrophobia]

I'd be more inclined to sign the petition if it did not demand PII from me to do so.  There's just no reason they need my address.  I'll try the representative route.

[Bobboau]

They want your address for the same reason this bill is getting pushed through, there has been a concerted effort to turn the internet into a police state for the last few years.

The representitive route is astronomically the better route.

[Luis Dias]

I'm not an US citizen but I full support you guys. Stay strong. Stay free.

[Hellstryker]

Signed the petition with a few words, will contact one of my representatives soon. If anyone wants any inspiration, this was my petition.

I am signing this petition because I do not believe big media interests, my ISP, and my government (without express consent of the people who elected them) should have more say over my privacy or rights in any form than I do. CISA serves only as yet another tool to put power into the hands of big business and take it away from the American people.

We have spoken on all this bill's predecessors in the past and have been adamant in our decision. We do not want CISA, it's policies, or the policies of the myriad of similar bills (SOPA, CISPA, PIPA, ACTA, etc) that came before it in any way, shape, or form.

- [REDACTED], independent videogame developer and creator of 'intellectual property'.

[karajorma]

You guys might want to say that if this law reappears yet again in another couple of years you're going to automatically vote out anyone who voted for it without sending them a warning this time.

Cause it's beginning to get stupid now.

[Cyborg17]

I think the problem is that the kind of people that make for successful politicians are generally not very knowledgable about anything at all except how to be charasmatic.  It's a real problem.

[AtomicClucker]

Already yelled at my rep/senator to not drink the koolaid.

So why did it pass? Well, a combo of recent high profile hacks, Ashley Madison and the players involved - the majority of BigTech opposes it - however, the supporters are traditional institutions like banks, retailers, fast food etc. If enough scream like SOPA/PIPA is raised, then politicians will listen. The problem? Traditional firms want the government to fix things - applying the logic of sledgehammer to peanuts.

I personally hope disagreements within the House and Senate, plus big players like Ron Wyden knock sense into people and normal squabbling cripples the bill.

Understand the playing field, understand the chess pieces in play. Our senators still don't know how the Internet works and the NSA sees it as a golden opportunity to engage in mass surveillance. I think the vital context looked over IS the big push from big retailers and banks. The NSA knows it can craft this into a surveillance bill in all but name, but what gave the "push" from our legislative bodies was a combination of these factors.

[Dragon]

Didn't we predict that sort of thing last time it came up? They waited for the outcry to die down, then tried again with what is essentially the same thing under a different name. Not the first time and not the last, I'm afraid. Just because its been thrown out once doesn't mean that its advocates will give up. This is why detractors need to remain vigilant and do not shut up about it. That sort of thing always comes back, and it will as long as the old senators are not replaced with ones who do know how internet works. I'm afraid that process will take a while, so we may be fighting clueless internet legislation for quite a while...

I think the problem is that the kind of people that make for successful politicians are generally not very knowledgable about anything at all except how to be charasmatic.  It's a real problem.

My gripe with every large democracy ever. If the skillset required to get elected overlapped with skillset needed to actually run a county a bit more, we'd be much better off. Indeed, it seems that the majority of politicians today is good at getting elected and not all that much else. Add to it the fact that in order to enter the competition you have to be power hungry to some degree (otherwise, why bother running at all?) and you'll find out that democracy will more often than not leave the country ruled by someone neither psychologically fit nor really qualified for it. Look at it that way, and it'll explain a lot about the world in general. Really, the US is the most functional democracy I know of (or second most, depending how the Swiss are doing at the time).