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Offline Solatar

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I am making a 14 year war campaign, and the first mission takes place in an asteroid field. To my surprise, the asteroids in the field go right through the target Aten.

Also, Its the Sol asteroid belt, so, does anybody know how ot make the desnity greater? Without making it smaller?

 

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Not without overloading the game.  In fact, this collision bug you're talking about has to do wit asteroid density that's too high already, so increasing that isn't the best idea.  If the belt is huge, then you will have problems, period.  To make the belt seem denser, either center the mission within its confines so that you should never exit it and its size would not be apparent, or make it large but very shallow if it is intended to be a background.  The collision bug may also have to do with computer specs, if you're running an older system, but then you risk the same thing on other people's PCs.  This bug isn't a code thing, it happens when the system can not fully process all of the information (too many objects on screen)

And why do you consider the Sol belt that dense?  It should not be as dense as, say, an asteroid belt out of Star Wars.  Collisions in our asteroid belt are not commonplace, and it really isn't that thick.  Imagine a roughly earth-sized body, broken up, forming a belt around the sun.  (Not that I believe in the former tenth planet idea, but the amount of material is about the same)  The area covered by the belt is so large that the dispersion of the chunks would be fairly large, and each piece would be rather far apart.
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Last edited by StratComm on 08-23-2027 at 08:34 PM

 
In actual fact, the Asteroid belt isn't as dense as you'd think. It's nothing like the asteroid belts from Star Wars and other science fiction stuff. While in the Solar asteroid belt you'd rarely see more than two asteroids in your field of view. And seeing two in your field of view isn't that common either.
All you need to do to simulate the Solar Asteroid belt is to place a couple of those asteroids from the ship list and you're done.
The probes of today have an extremely small chance of hitting an asteroid while travelling through the belt because it's not that dense. The probe would have to pick an asteroid and venture toward it to impact.
There are thousands (maybe millions) of asteroids in our belt, but because they're spread out over such a vast amount of space, it's not that dense.
Hate to break it to you. If you don't believe me, have a look on the web. Some of those ask an astronomer and ask a scientist sites give some good information.

 

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Exactly what I was trying to say Pegasus, but put better.  Well done.  I don't know why sci-fi has an obsession with hyper-dense asteroid fields, but if that much rock got that close together, gravity would eventually pull them all together into a big ball.
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good point. I always saw movies where their were all these asteroids crashing, running into things, and millions of them too. But you are correct, gravity would pull them all together. Its over 10000 meters, so its not that dense either.

 
It's ok for that big asteroid field in A New Hope, because that was the remnants of Alderan. But the other one in Star Wars (with the massive space worm) wouldn't be possibly for the reasons stated by StratComm.

 
Actually there are a few places you can find dense clusters of small objects in space... but usually it's in a ring system like Saturn has.   I think a field of ice chunks as wide as 28 earths, and only about 30 feet thick... moving at amazing speeds and constantly colliding in orbit might be even nastier than an asteroid belt in a scifi movie....

But everything is in orbit and there are few large objects (but there are a few) to clear a path and begin glomming mass together...   

Big ass rocks  clustered in the middle of deep space would be a rogue planetoid in no time. 

Unless they are full of giant space worms.... then all bets are off.

 

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Didn't spot the date before replying  :nervous:
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