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Have we all become fossils?
It seems that all of a sudden, the veterans of the FreeSpace community are begining to drop off. Many FS fans have left, ready to leave or thinking of leaving. I know FS is about 5 years old now, but I thought the Freespace community was strong. We now have the source code project, but even that can't hold us together.
Could it be because all of the user campaigns take so long to make, due to RL interferance?

The Freespace community is slowly shedding away. Unless we get the dreaded FS3, there will only be Shrike and Venom left in two years time...

I know that I will leave the day I buy Freelancer.

The reason I'm writing this is that I've noticed that the forums (particularly the General Freespace and Freespace Modding forums) are drying up. It seems like hardly anyone is talking anymore. Raise your hand if you have an active involvement with Freespace.

[I raise my hand]

 

Offline WMCoolmon

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Have we all become fossils?
A couple ideas I've had...
One, have another project going along at the same time as the FSSCP (Or just have a team as part of the project) that redoes all the FS2 media that is not available for free and releases it on the web. This would mainly be for the 'base' FS2 elements, ie the interface and allow the user campaigns to make the meat of the game.
Two, the Babylon project does the above, since it's already done a lot of interface-replacement and has a number of high-quality ship designs planned, and is the most well-known campaign in the FS community
-C

 

Offline TheVirtu

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Have we all become fossils?
Well, heres my theory...

When Freespace 1 and 2 came out, the majority of people that bought these were young, you know...maybe 10-20 range. Now that we've gone five years in, the younger players are getting older, thus having more advanced things todo to complicate their past ways of computer-RL balance. This usually means having to adujust to it by cutting the gaming/online factor down.

I am currently thirteen years of age, I have about another perhaps 2-4 years before real life really starts to interfere with my being online. This is basically a way of life...usually people around 16-26 are really busy at some point, may it be school, college, going for their first job, going out on their own, etc.

It really isnt because of the game itself in most factors, its the age group that is entering an important time.
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Offline Shrike

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Re: Have we all become fossils?
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Originally posted by Pegasus V
I know that I will leave the day I buy Freelancer.
You, sir, suck!

I know that there's a good chance I'll ride the community down in flames.... or leave for other things. :devil:
WE ARE HARD LIGHT PRODUCTIONS. YOU WILL LOWER YOUR FIREWALLS AND SURRENDER YOUR KEYBOARDS. WE WILL ADD YOUR INTELLECTUAL AND VERNACULAR DISTINCTIVENESS TO OUR OWN. YOUR FORUMS WILL ADAPT TO SERVICE US. RESISTANCE IS FUTILE.

 

Offline TheVirtu

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Re: Re: Have we all become fossils?
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Originally posted by Shrike
You, sir, suck!

I know that there's a good chance I'll ride the community down in flames.... or leave for other things. :devil:


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Offline Kellan

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Re: Re: Re: Have we all become fossils?
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Originally posted by TheVirtu


NEWS FLASH!
Admin Shrike leaves HLP to pursue his career of streaking at sports matches throughout North America.


Don't leave me with that image. Please :sigh:

 

Offline Nico

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Re: Have we all become fossils?
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Originally posted by Pegasus V
Unless we get the dreaded FS3, there will only be Shrike and Venom left in two years time...
 


sorry to disapoint you, but I might follow the trend too some day...
Things are dead on my campaign for now, I know it's hollydays, my PC still isn't back at 100% ( no internet, no 3dsmax ), but still, I begin to be fed up with how things are going, this might not end as I wished...
That said, it doesn't mean i'll leave the community anyway, coz even if freespace dies ( it is bond to die anyway ), HLP will most likely go on with something else.
SCREW CANON!

 

Offline Dark_4ce

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Have we all become fossils?
I'm probably gonna stick around to very end, and speak to myself, laugh at my own jokes, argue, post pictures, ban myself and then get angry and toss my computer out of the window and discover the wonders of the outside world (IE my kitchen and livingroom)! :D
I have returned... Again...

 

Offline TheVirtu

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Have we all become fossils?
HLP will go on much longer than the FS Series...none of us would really be able to abandon the forums since we've been here so long :(
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Offline Kellan

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Have we all become fossils?
Surely you'll have no need to abandon HLP when Freelancer comes out - HLP is covering it, after all. Plus there's Homeworld 2 and all the other lovely space-based shenanigans we could want.

 

Offline Fineus

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Have we all become fossils?
Yep, I'm damned if I'm actually leaving this totally. The truth is that when FS and FS2 came out I had so much more time on my hands than I do now, things change and as people grow up their situations change. It's sad but it's true - but I'm not leaving yet ;)

 

Offline TheVirtu

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Have we all become fossils?
This brings a quote I made up from another game.

We are warriors of the battlefield, fighting a war that ended long ago, yet we do not believe that the war has ended, so we keep on fighting![/i]

It was something like that
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Former Webmaster of i82.co.uk - Shut Down 2/12/03
"If HLP wants your developing, they'll promote you to Senior Engineer, now shutup and focus!" - Shi
Think of the Coke machines! What did they ever do to you![/b]

 
Have we all become fossils?
I know that if I leave FS, there's no way I'll leave the HLP boards. Especially since HLP will be involving Freelancer as well.

Another thing I was trying to bring up is whether people should still create campaigns that won't be released until next year. By then, everyone would have probably uninstalled any FS related content.

The light is coming! :nervous: The end is in sight! :shaking:
« Last Edit: August 14, 2002, 02:57:25 am by 326 »

 

Offline Dark_4ce

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Have we all become fossils?
YEAH! HLP Will rise again like a Phoenix out of its ashes!!!

When those promised games hit the shelves that is...
I have returned... Again...

 
Have we all become fossils?
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Originally posted by Dark_4ce
YEAH! HLP Will rise again like a Phoenix out of its ashes!!!

When those promised games hit the shelves that is...


I wasn't referring to the HLP community - I think it's still strong. Just the FS community.

 

Offline Shrike

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Re: Re: Re: Have we all become fossils?
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Originally posted by TheVirtu
NEWS FLASH!
Admin Shrike leaves HLP to pursue his career of streaking at sports matches throughout North America.
Nah, you got it wrong.  The career is bondage model, not streaker.

Get it right next time.
WE ARE HARD LIGHT PRODUCTIONS. YOU WILL LOWER YOUR FIREWALLS AND SURRENDER YOUR KEYBOARDS. WE WILL ADD YOUR INTELLECTUAL AND VERNACULAR DISTINCTIVENESS TO OUR OWN. YOUR FORUMS WILL ADAPT TO SERVICE US. RESISTANCE IS FUTILE.

 

Offline icespeed

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Have we all become fossils?
_bondage model_??? eh... should I ask, why? or is that a really bad question to ask?
$quot;Let your light shine before men...$quot;
Matthew 5:16

When I graduate, I'm going to be a doctor, and people are going to come to me looking for treatment and prescription drugs, and I'm going to give it to them. Is anyone scared yet?

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Offline Sandwich

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Have we all become fossils?
*shakes head*


Shrike, Shrike, Shrike.... *sigh*


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Offline Shrike

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Quote
Originally posted by icespeed
_bondage model_??? eh... should I ask, why? or is that a really bad question to ask?
Why?  Why not?
WE ARE HARD LIGHT PRODUCTIONS. YOU WILL LOWER YOUR FIREWALLS AND SURRENDER YOUR KEYBOARDS. WE WILL ADD YOUR INTELLECTUAL AND VERNACULAR DISTINCTIVENESS TO OUR OWN. YOUR FORUMS WILL ADAPT TO SERVICE US. RESISTANCE IS FUTILE.

 

Offline icespeed

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i dunno. if you're going to go for that type of thing, aren't there better ... career... er, thingies? whatever the word is. i can't think of it at the moment.
$quot;Let your light shine before men...$quot;
Matthew 5:16

When I graduate, I'm going to be a doctor, and people are going to come to me looking for treatment and prescription drugs, and I'm going to give it to them. Is anyone scared yet?

$quot;If you confess with your mouth, 'Jesus is Lord', and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.$quot; Romans 10:9