[penguin]

Originally posted by Sandwich


LOL - just look for Cosby's The Dentist MP3 on Kazaa...

I've heard that one before, it is funny.

Part of the reason I shudder was that I was at the dentist just last week getting some old fillings replaced -- they were probably older than most people on this board ...

[Sandwich]

Originally posted by penguin
We all know about the errors in the FS2 intro...

We do?

[StratComm]

I can think of four:
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• The manticore fires its lasers WAY too fast, and in cyclical rather than linked mode.  Can't be done, and was never FS canon.
• The beam shot by the Lucy through the Orion came out of the side, later called the lateral cannon - I can't remember the superdestroyer having beams anywhere but on its forward arms in FS1.
• The devastation of Deneb; the shivans were said to be ignoring control of the planets they came across, rather focusing on control of individual jump nodes (FS1 Briefing), so the biosphere of the planet should be relatively intact.  The destruction of the Vasuda Prime biosphere came as a surprise, and that would have been after Deneb.
• There is a Hades destroyer crashed on the surface of the planet.
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That Hades really bothers me more than anything else.

[CP5670]

That Hades really bothers me more than anything else.

Same here; that is the main thing that one can tell is blatantly wrong at first glance. Did Volition make the movies themselves or hire another company to do them?

[aldo_14]

Originally posted by StratComm
I can think of four:
[list=1]

• The manticore fires its lasers WAY too fast, and in cyclical rather than linked mode.  Can't be done, and was never FS canon.
• The beam shot by the Lucy through the Orion came out of the side, later called the lateral cannon - I can't remember the superdestroyer having beams anywhere but on its forward arms in FS1.
• The devastation of Deneb; the shivans were said to be ignoring control of the planets they came across, rather focusing on control of individual jump nodes (FS1 Briefing), so the biosphere of the planet should be relatively intact.  The destruction of the Vasuda Prime biosphere came as a surprise, and that would have been after Deneb.
• There is a Hades destroyer crashed on the surface of the planet.
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That Hades really bothers me more than anything else. [/B]

The Herc the camera follows has the wrong colour of light on its bottom 'strut' :d

I think :V: allowed themselves artistic licence.... the beam looks better from that side, IMO, and the Hades could just be a wry in-joke - you know, like the Space 2001 'pod' that crops up in Star Wars Ep.1, or the Independence War alien model in godzilla.... that sort of thing.

Anyways, do we actually know that Deneb was razed by the Shivans?  It could just be a desert region that was shown.... or the crashing destroyers' explosion could have created that devastation, as well as scattering the bodies of its crewmembers.

[ShadowWolf_IH]

it wasn't the ship that caused all the em, it was the collapsiing of the node that did it.

[Galemp]

Have we decided yet what the name of that Orion was?

[Anaz]

lets just call it bob...

[Sandwich]

Originally posted by Analazon
lets just call it bob...

Why would they have given it a Shivan name??

[Anaz]

but I thought that bob was vasudan...

[Sandwich]

Originally posted by Analazon
but I thought that bob was vasudan...

*mutters*

Bob the Shivan....

Bob the Vasudan....

*speaks up*

Huh! I guess you're right!

[Hippo]

Originally posted by Pegasus V


Maybe the GTVA digitally reconstructed what they believed to happen.

THat would also explain why an Ursa is outrunnng a lucy, which exits subspace at >514 mps...

[Hippo]

Originally posted by GalacticEmperor


OK, here's a question; what would happen if a ship tried to enter the Delta Serpentis-Sol node, from the D.S. side?

And how could the GTVA be absolutely sure the Lucy was destroyed? Last Terran Command heard Alpha-Beta-Gamma-Delta wings jumped out after the Lucifer and none were heard from again.

Although the bastions comm was damaged, they could talk to the pilots in subspace, so whats the chance that a pilot didn't sing with joy once 5 reactors were down?

[Akrovah]

Originally posted by GalacticEmperor
Have we decided yet what the name of that Orion was?

Originally posted by aldo14
That Hades really bothers me more than anything else.

Ok, these may be dumb questions, but does anyone remember what systems the Galetae and Hades were destroyed in? It's been a long time since i played TGW or ST.  MY point being that maybe these were the hades and orion in the FS2 intro.

The beam cannon on the side of the lucifer is kinda annoying though. As for the bodys and the destruction on the planet, they may be left over from the T-V War?

EDIT: Didn't get the quote comment right

[Corhellion]

Originally posted by GalacticEmperor
Have we decided yet what the name of that Orion was?

Hmmmm...dunno, but it's NOT THE GALATEA. GTD Galatea was destroyed COMPLETELY.

 I should go back and look at...OH, nvm *goes to VPview* *Remembers he uninstalled FS1*

*curses*

Originally posted by aldo14
That Hades really bothers me more than anything else.

Hades was destroyed shortly after the GTI Johtenhiem was taken out, in the Delta Serpentis System...I think...

And in Clash of The Titans, in FS1, there is supposed to be a cruiser in that mission as well...the GTC Warrior I think it was called, check it if you don't believe me! (It would've helped out the Bastion )

Can't think of anything else...OH WAIT! back to the FS1 intro, there was Hercs at Riviera station, WAY before they were introduced, am I right?

Cor

[aldo_14]

 I didn't say that....

Wasn;t it the 'Legion' that was destroyed in the FS1 intro?  I'm not sure it really matters, though - they probably couldn't have a good intro without an Orion being blown up

NB - about where the Lucifer fires it's beams from..... one of the cbanims from FS1 (cb_****vore.ani or thereabouts) shows a peculiar pronged section on that area of the lucifer.... so maybe that was intended to be the main beam for the render model.  Of course, it could be that the Lucifer has a set of side beams for razing planets, and the superlaser was only used to destroy enemy capital ships.

[Akrovah]

Originally posted by Corhellion


Hmmmm...dunno, but it's NOT THE GALATEA. GTD Galatea was destroyed COMPLETELY.

Well, i realize that ingame the Galatea was destroyed completely, thats just the way the engine works, but that does not make it completely acurate. With all the Cap Ships destroyed, i really doubt that every ship would be completely annihalated.

[Galemp]

Originally posted by Corhellion

OH WAIT! back to the FS1 intro, there was Hercs at Riviera station, WAY before they were introduced, am I right?
 

Actually the intro shows Hercs and Medusas as well as Apollos in that mission. Just because you didn't get to FLY them until Episode II doesn't mean they didn't EXIST. Example: Herc IIs and Artemis bombers were around when you started the FS2 campaign, but you weren't authorized to fly them.

[Akrovah]

Ok, i did some reasearch using FRED. I think the Orion in the FS2 intro is the Galatea. The mission before the Galatea is destroyed you destroyed the Demon class crusier Eva in the Deneb system, and it is a carry-over mission into the destruction of the Galatea. I really think this shows that the Orion is in fact the Galatea. It would also make the most sense for the intro of FS2 to show that other than some other unknown Orion.


EDIT: as for the hades, i still am not sure about that.

[Corhellion]

Search this has already been discussed, and almost everyone has agreed that the Orion in the FS2 Intro, IS NOT THE GALATEA, there were many OTHER Orions in Deneb at that time, the Minnow for example, and there was also a Typhon in the intro, and we didn't see any when the Galatea was taken down.

As for that hades...wheres Daveb when you need him!

Cor