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Offline Fineus

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on: August 17, 2002, 04:15:46 am
Ok, so here's the weird thing.

I recently recieved my brand shiny new GF4Ti4600 from MSI, and it's everything I hoped it would be, and a little more... here's why.

When setting it up for my installed games (Freespace, Descent 3, UT and a couple of others) I ran the "detect available graphics platforms" thing as normal... D3D, Check. OGL, Check. 3DFX... Check.

3DFX? Ok, since when did the nVidia line start running in 3DFX as well? Of course I try to run Freespace and UT in 3DFX to see what happens and both games crash so I switch back to D3D and all is good again, but why would 3DFX show up on that list?

Could Voodoo be returning to haunt me? Even after removing the hardware and formatting the drive...
 

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Reply #1 on: August 17, 2002, 04:17:51 am
Calling a card 'Voodoo' just has to be asking for bad juju....
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Reply #2 on: August 17, 2002, 04:20:01 am
Thunder: :wtf:

Shrike: I have to agree.... ;)
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"The very essence of tolerance rests on the fact that we have to be intolerant of intolerance. Stretching right back to Kant, through the Frankfurt School and up to today, liberalism means that we can do anything we like as long as we don't hurt others. This means that if we are tolerant of others' intolerance - especially when that intolerance is a call for genocide - then all we are doing is allowing that intolerance to flourish, and allowing the violence that will spring from that intolerance to continue unabated." - Bren Carlill
 

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Reply #3 on: August 17, 2002, 04:23:52 am
:wtf: Hmm, I have no idea. NVidia cards do not support Glide, though. Maybe it's something, but it shouldn't matter too much. Have you deleted all the registers or formatted the computer after Voodoo?
 
Edit: Hmm, you did format... :wtf: Strange. :p
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Reply #4 on: August 17, 2002, 04:26:55 am
I said I had :)

That's what's so weird, there should be no trace of the device on the system, and yet it picks up my card as supporting 3DFX Glide... I'm scared. I think perhaps the only possible reason is that the latest detonator drivers are preparing for the next line of nVidia cards which (IIRC) do support 3DFX...
 

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Reply #5 on: August 17, 2002, 05:12:22 am
Probably just a detection bug.
 

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Reply #6 on: August 17, 2002, 05:15:18 am
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... I'm scared



*waits for the "Hold me..." part*


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"The very essence of tolerance rests on the fact that we have to be intolerant of intolerance. Stretching right back to Kant, through the Frankfurt School and up to today, liberalism means that we can do anything we like as long as we don't hurt others. This means that if we are tolerant of others' intolerance - especially when that intolerance is a call for genocide - then all we are doing is allowing that intolerance to flourish, and allowing the violence that will spring from that intolerance to continue unabated." - Bren Carlill
 

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Reply #7 on: August 17, 2002, 05:20:57 am
Blue Lion always says that. :lol:
 

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Reply #8 on: August 17, 2002, 06:08:01 am
...Hold me!
 

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Reply #9 on: August 17, 2002, 06:27:58 am
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...Hold me!


:nervous:


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"...The quintessential quality of our age is that of dreams coming true. Just think of it. For centuries we have dreamt of flying; recently we made that come true: we have always hankered for speed; now we have speeds greater than we can stand: we wanted to speak to far parts of the Earth; we can: we wanted to explore the sea bottom; we have: and so  on, and so on: and, too, we wanted the power to smash our enemies utterly; we have it. If we had truly wanted peace, we should have had that as well. But true peace has never been one of the genuine dreams - we have got little further than preaching against war in order to appease our consciences. The truly wishful dreams, the many-minded dreams are now irresistible - they become facts." - 'The Outward Urge' by John Wyndham

"The very essence of tolerance rests on the fact that we have to be intolerant of intolerance. Stretching right back to Kant, through the Frankfurt School and up to today, liberalism means that we can do anything we like as long as we don't hurt others. This means that if we are tolerant of others' intolerance - especially when that intolerance is a call for genocide - then all we are doing is allowing that intolerance to flourish, and allowing the violence that will spring from that intolerance to continue unabated." - Bren Carlill
 

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Reply #10 on: August 17, 2002, 06:42:14 am
Right. :blah:
 

 
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Reply #11 on: August 17, 2002, 06:52:37 am
Stop pimping all over the place or I'll null your post count and give you a really stupid title :p
 

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Reply #12 on: August 17, 2002, 06:55:40 am
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Stop pimping all over the place or I'll null your post count and give you a really stupid title :p

 
:nervous: Scary... hold me!
 
But at least I have been noticed now. Now go and join.
 
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Reply #13 on: August 17, 2002, 06:58:13 am
Dude, NW is HLP hosted - they're allowed to pimp themselves to a certain extent ;)
 

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Reply #14 on: August 17, 2002, 07:00:22 am
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Dude, NW is HLP hosted - they're allowed to pimp themselves to a certain extent ;)

 
I know... :nod: But still when they always p1mped it some people got angry, including admins. :p
 

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Reply #15 on: August 17, 2002, 07:00:57 am
I agree whit Tbone here:D

If you want to p1mp Archspace, then bump my thread;)
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Reply #16 on: August 17, 2002, 07:18:03 am
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All of you. You will join Archspace. First, make an account here, and then, proceed to here.


:wtf: Is it just me, or are both of those links absolutely identical??? :wtf:
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"The very essence of tolerance rests on the fact that we have to be intolerant of intolerance. Stretching right back to Kant, through the Frankfurt School and up to today, liberalism means that we can do anything we like as long as we don't hurt others. This means that if we are tolerant of others' intolerance - especially when that intolerance is a call for genocide - then all we are doing is allowing that intolerance to flourish, and allowing the violence that will spring from that intolerance to continue unabated." - Bren Carlill
 

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Reply #17 on: August 17, 2002, 07:20:02 am
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Dude, NW is HLP hosted - they're allowed to pimp themselves to a certain extent ;)


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Reply #18 on: August 17, 2002, 07:31:38 am
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:wtf: Is it just me, or are both of those links absolutely identical??? :wtf:



Nope it's not just you, they are both the same.
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Reply #19 on: August 17, 2002, 08:38:04 am
To get to the question at hand, have you check to see if there are any glide**.dll files on your computer, which might've found their way there after a format? Emulators for example?

Looking through the latest detonators I acquired (30.30's), I wasn't able to find any support for the NV30 in them, nor any extra files that would spark off an alert to a program looking for 3Dfx support. With the 3Dfx thing, I think that some people are getting confused between former 3dfx employees working on the NV30 and having influence on the design, and 3Dfx technologies bring incorporated directly.
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