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Offline aldo_14

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Or just general sunlight if its a scottish tank.  Going by this summer, it wouldnt be used to any more sun light or heat than that prodeced by a small light bulb. :D


But anyway, we arent supposed to tell people that. :shaking:


Summer?  Is that, like, the rainy season?  Or the monsoon season?   In the event of a war, the first Scots' troops sent out to battle would be a battalion of Buckfast wielding neds, anyways.  Shir.

 

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...a scottish tank...


Not trying to be a Scott-basher or anything, but does that exist? I've never heard of one before.
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Not trying to be a Scot-basher or anything, but does that exist? I've never heard of one before.


Well, Maryhill police vans probably count.... :D

There are / were a few ironworks around the Clyde that make military equipment - mainly naval ships (for what's lef tof the Scots shipbuilding industry... i think only Kvaerner(?) Govan is really left nowadays).  And I think the Challenger was at least partly manufactured up here, too.  And there's the Marconi works, who do some of the avionics used in get fighters (and are going bust fairly rapidly :( )

 

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And there's the Marconi works...



They make those noodles, no? :wink:
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ha, the brits are the best, first the SAS now super tank armor.

i think the only draw back of the force field is that the electricity has noware to flow, i think the clocest we will ever get is this electric armor and some tort of lightening gun (static gun) which could nock out incoming missiles, as fast as... erm.. lightening
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Originally posted by aldo_14


Summer?  Is that, like, the rainy season?  Or the monsoon season?   In the event of a war, the first Scots' troops sent out to battle would be a battalion of Buckfast wielding neds, anyways.  Shir.


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Actually I think that honour goes to Thermo-nuclear weaponry. It's the best thing for killing everything/anything.
On the basis of energy released, nukes are far less efficient than a tank gun at killing tanks...... and are in many cases tactically inadvised.
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For the same reason a high tension power line doesn't destroy itself.... it'd designed to not be destroyed. ;)

The metal jet from a HEAT warhead causes a short circuit between the two layers of armor.  No significant effects outside the armor system.

And this is why the tank is still the best way of destroying other tanks..... it uses a gun instead of a missile.


It might stop a HEAT round and some other types of artillary or ordance. Still this armour is designed against annoying RPG weapons etc, tanks arent a problem, cos they are easier to spot and shoot :p
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It might stop a HEAT round and some other types of artillary or ordance. Still this armour is designed against annoying RPG weapons etc, tanks arent a problem, cos they are easier to spot and shoot :p
No actually, tanks are the problem.... because they don't need to use HEAT rounds to destroy enemy tanks.
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Bah - both of you, shut up! You're agreeing with each other and yet you continue to argue? :p ;)

The armor was developed to counter small-to-medium sized shaped-charge warheads, not tank shells or direct artillery fire. Basically, it's effective against anything that penetrates the tank armor using finesse as opposed to brute force.

*wonders if Israel will aquire the tech* ;7
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No actually, tanks are the problem.... because they don't need to use HEAT rounds to destroy enemy tanks.


No, but they do need HEAT:s against APC:s. If you use a sub-caliber round(or whatever it is in english, the armour piercing "dart"), it's possible that it only makes 2 neat holes on both sides of the APC without causing any considerable damage.
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On the basis of energy released, nukes are far less efficient than a tank gun at killing tanks...... and are in many cases tactically inadvised.


It eliminates the tank all the same, though. :D

 

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No, but they do need HEAT:s against APC:s. If you use a sub-caliber round(or whatever it is in english, the armour piercing "dart"), it's possible that it only makes 2 neat holes on both sides of the APC without causing any considerable damage.
Depends on how thick the armor is, but you've probably got internal spalling as well.... granted not as effective as a HEAT round most likely.

And HEAT rounds are by no means 'finesse'.  lol
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Bah - both of you, shut up! You're agreeing with each other and yet you continue to argue? :p ;)

The armor was developed to counter small-to-medium sized shaped-charge warheads, not tank shells or direct artillery fire. Basically, it's effective against anything that penetrates the tank armor using finesse as opposed to brute force.

*wonders if Israel will aquire the tech* ;7


Of course we will share the tech with you... in exchange for blowing up a few middle eastern countries! ;)


Combine this with the chameleon (sp?) project and whooo... things are gonna get interesting.
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Combine this with the chameleon (sp?) project...


Quiet! Don't you know that's part of The Plan™?? ;)
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No, but they do need HEAT:s against APC:s. If you use a sub-caliber round(or whatever it is in english, the armour piercing "dart"), it's possible that it only makes 2 neat holes on both sides of the APC without causing any considerable damage.


mmh, bullets that goes freely through an APC, isn't that bad for the "P" part of APC? :p
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That's the next step of military evolution I think.

Next thing you know, all military ground vehicles will have this ability.

But it sounds knid of farmiliar.

"Polarize the hull"

Rings a bell?:D

 

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"Polarize the hull"

Rings a bell?:D


:lol: Now that I think of it... :nod:

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But it sounds knid of farmiliar.

"Polarize the hull"

Rings a bell?:D


Sorry bro - I beat ya to the punch this time:

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Heh - I was wondering if that is an example of one of the few things that man has invented that hasn't been predicted by sci-fi yet. But then I realized that sci-fi had it covered already: "Polarize the hull plating," anyone? :D


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