[DefCynodont119]

So I'm trying to extract the SAAA and S-AAA-Weak in complete, MVP, single, standalone table form- IE: The weapons in their full table state with all the MVP edits already put in. no separate tbm's.  kind of like how BtA does things.

I know I could just open up the retail table file and dig for the 2 or 3 Mvp tbm's that edit those weapons and merge them manually. . .
Adding and Overwriting code line by line. . .
with tons of room for me to make errors. . .     (I know about the Wiki, but it can still be tedious to go though and not misplace things)

but. . . :/

I'm just wondering if there is an easier way to do this? FRED has the TBL view button that shows the combined tbl and tbm edits for a selected ship, but there is no option like this for weapons as far as I know.

Any advice would be helpful. Thank you.

[Nightmare]

Sadly, there's no other way. You could ask if the MVPs could change their TBM structure (as AFAIK, nobody ever used only parts of them, aside high-res stuff) to make it easier to mod... but that's probably it.

[0rph3u5]

The MediaVPs .tbms don't add functionality* so they are safe to disregard anyway. Personally I wouldn't bother updating my special issue versions of FS2 weapons if it wasn't breaking visual cohesion.

* (the only edge case being beams overpentrating targets at low hull value)

[Nightmare]

Well getting consistent, improved graphics is actually the point behind DefCynodonts question I presume...

[X3N0-Life-Form]

* (the only edge case being beams overpentrating targets at low hull value)

Actually, I'm pretty sure that beam overpenetration is a retail thing, the MVPs only added the flamy bits that come out alongside the beam on the other side.

[Nightmare]

It's indeed present since retail, but MVPs also added damage types so it doesn't happen random anymore.

[DefCynodont119]

aww man, thanks anyway.  Strange that there is no workaround tho. .

[Nightmare]

This is FS, what do you expect?

[Galemp]

FRED has the TBL view button that shows the combined tbl and tbm edits for a selected ship, but there is no option like this for weapons as far as I know.

That would be a nice feature request for FRED: an "export TBM" button that spits out one text file with all the consolidated data for that item.

[General Battuta]

* (the only edge case being beams overpentrating targets at low hull value)

Actually, I'm pretty sure that beam overpenetration is a retail thing, the MVPs only added the flamy bits that come out alongside the beam on the other side.

Also added that happening at hull percents >0. And it was actually a BP feature that was instantly donated to the MVPs!

[Nightmare]

It happens quite random, in particular with large beams piercing through small cruisers. Sometimes it doesn't pierce, sometimes it does but no fire spew even with armor and damage type specified.