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Offline Sandwich

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New missile weapon question
on: July 25, 2001, 06:07:00 pm
I was messing around with a new missile based on the TBL data of the Tempest. Anyway, after much trial and error I got it to work in-game, but there was one problem: I couldn't mount it on any fighters or bombers in the weapons loadout screen. It appeared just fine, but everything said "The GTF Myrmidon is unable to carry blah blah...". I am currently able to test it in-game only by switching to it using the cheat codes.

Now, I know what you're thinking: What a newbie question.... But yes, I have added the name of the weapon to the Allowed SBanks list in the SHIPS.TBL. No go. Any ideas?

Also, what is the difference between the weapons that have the "@" sign in front of their names and those without it?

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Offline 'Captain' Nick Brown

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New missile weapon question
Reply #1 on: July 25, 2001, 06:28:00 pm
Yeah, that's what I would like to know... What are all those @'s, etc.

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Offline Joey_21

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Reply #2 on: July 25, 2001, 06:45:00 pm
I had a problem with getting the Stilettos to be armed on a fighter/bomber without cheats but it still wouldn't work.  
 

Offline Nico

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Reply #3 on: July 26, 2001, 06:43:00 am
sometimes it happens to me. what I do?
I open the mission in fred and save it again... coz off course fred kept the last allowed loadout you set up for your ship as a custom loadout  
Well, not sure it will work for you (maybe a very different pb), but it does for me so I suppose it's worth trying that
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Offline Stryke 9

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Reply #4 on: July 26, 2001, 03:00:00 pm
Look at the ships.tbl files. There's a part that controls what weapons a ship can load. Change it. (I've been staring at that damned .tbl file too long, I learned something about it! rrrrgh...)
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Reply #5 on: July 26, 2001, 03:01:00 pm
Oops. You did that. then do what the other guy said, and make sure you typed it right.

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Offline Taristin

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Reply #6 on: July 26, 2001, 04:27:00 pm
 
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Originally posted by Stryke 9:
Look at the ships.tbl files. There's a part that controls what weapons a ship can load. Change it. (I've been staring at that damned .tbl file too long, I learned something about it! rrrrgh...)

Yep. this is what has to be done.
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Reply #7 on: July 26, 2001, 05:25:00 pm
 
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Originally posted by sandwich:
...But yes, I have added the name of the weapon to the Allowed SBanks list in the SHIPS.TBL. No go....

  It's sad when one has to quote oneself... *sigh*



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"The very essence of tolerance rests on the fact that we have to be intolerant of intolerance. Stretching right back to Kant, through the Frankfurt School and up to today, liberalism means that we can do anything we like as long as we don't hurt others. This means that if we are tolerant of others' intolerance - especially when that intolerance is a call for genocide - then all we are doing is allowing that intolerance to flourish, and allowing the violence that will spring from that intolerance to continue unabated." - Bren Carlill
 

Offline Kitsune

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Reply #8 on: July 27, 2001, 05:41:00 am
How about 'player_allowed'?

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Offline Setekh

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Reply #9 on: July 27, 2001, 05:55:00 am
 
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Originally posted by Raa Tor'h:
Yep. this is what has to be done.

The thread! Read it!  

Kitsune has a good point, try and add 'player_allowed'...
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Reply #10 on: July 27, 2001, 12:04:00 pm
True, that is a good point. However, I forgot to mention that I had already had that.  
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"The very essence of tolerance rests on the fact that we have to be intolerant of intolerance. Stretching right back to Kant, through the Frankfurt School and up to today, liberalism means that we can do anything we like as long as we don't hurt others. This means that if we are tolerant of others' intolerance - especially when that intolerance is a call for genocide - then all we are doing is allowing that intolerance to flourish, and allowing the violence that will spring from that intolerance to continue unabated." - Bren Carlill
 

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Reply #11 on: July 27, 2001, 01:57:00 pm
Never mind - I figured out the problem.   I had a SHIPS.TBL in the fs2\data\ directory, and it was the one being used by the game and by FRED2. I guess the game never even saw the one in the \tables\ dir...    @Me

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"...The quintessential quality of our age is that of dreams coming true. Just think of it. For centuries we have dreamt of flying; recently we made that come true: we have always hankered for speed; now we have speeds greater than we can stand: we wanted to speak to far parts of the Earth; we can: we wanted to explore the sea bottom; we have: and so  on, and so on: and, too, we wanted the power to smash our enemies utterly; we have it. If we had truly wanted peace, we should have had that as well. But true peace has never been one of the genuine dreams - we have got little further than preaching against war in order to appease our consciences. The truly wishful dreams, the many-minded dreams are now irresistible - they become facts." - 'The Outward Urge' by John Wyndham

"The very essence of tolerance rests on the fact that we have to be intolerant of intolerance. Stretching right back to Kant, through the Frankfurt School and up to today, liberalism means that we can do anything we like as long as we don't hurt others. This means that if we are tolerant of others' intolerance - especially when that intolerance is a call for genocide - then all we are doing is allowing that intolerance to flourish, and allowing the violence that will spring from that intolerance to continue unabated." - Bren Carlill
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