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Which beam looks better?

Left
13 (34.2%)
Right
16 (42.1%)
Both/neither
9 (23.7%)

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Voting closed: September 12, 2002, 06:45:44 am

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Offline Sandwich

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on: September 12, 2002, 06:44:53 am
Which beam do you like better? I used two different methods to make them in Photoshop, and depending on which one you like, I'll write up a nice detailed tutorial for it sometime soon.

Note that I don't want you answering one or the other because you like it's color better - I'm talking about the end result, the final look, the Worke DeMagnifique... err... ok, I'll stop. :p
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Offline Ashrak

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Reply #1 on: September 12, 2002, 06:53:16 am
if i could see i would tell :)

EDIT: i cant see the pic :(
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Reply #2 on: September 12, 2002, 07:11:12 am
Hard decision. Maybe the right one. :)
 

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Reply #3 on: September 12, 2002, 07:33:03 am
left :nod:
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Reply #4 on: September 12, 2002, 07:44:19 am
left, it looks more......err... beamy :p
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Reply #5 on: September 12, 2002, 08:42:38 am
They're both too conical and need more sharpness to them.
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Reply #6 on: September 12, 2002, 08:49:03 am
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Originally posted by an0n
They're both too conical and need more sharpness to them.


I know what you mean by conical, but the effect I was duplicating was an anti-fighter beam narrowly missing the observer/camera.
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Reply #7 on: September 12, 2002, 09:16:08 am
I'd like left one more, but:
-Where beam starts, it's too narrow compared to "muzzle" effect.
-Where beam ends it's too wide. Looks more like anti-cap ship beam.

So:
Left one has better effect(s) but right one's size is better.
Go figure. ;)
 

Offline Corhellion

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Reply #8 on: September 12, 2002, 09:21:29 am
RRrrrrrrright

looks better IMO, the left one....looks unfinished in a way *sneezes* I'm at home from school *cheers* and I'm sick.

So there's my oppinion

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Reply #9 on: September 12, 2002, 09:42:10 am
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Originally posted by Mr. Fury
I'd like left one more, but:
-Where beam starts, it's too narrow compared to "muzzle" effect.
-Where beam ends it's too wide. Looks more like anti-cap ship beam.

So:
Left one has better effect(s) but right one's size is better.
Go figure. ;)


Like I said ( :rolleyes: ), there's a lot of perspective at work there. Just imagine an Aeolus firing at and barely missing the camera, m'kay?
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Reply #10 on: September 12, 2002, 10:03:47 am
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Originally posted by Sandwich


Like I said ( :rolleyes: ), there's a lot of perspective at work there. Just imagine an Aeolus firing at and barely missing the camera, m'kay?


Right one is only better, because its much thicker when it fires, other one is too thin.
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Reply #11 on: September 12, 2002, 10:13:04 am
If only you'd done it properly and used MAX. You could've just change the FOV and made everyone happy.
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Reply #12 on: September 12, 2002, 10:49:01 am
Personally, I hink it's easier to do it in TS5 and have it ook right, because it is in proper perspective, rather than speculating on if it's pointing right...
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Reply #13 on: September 12, 2002, 05:28:27 pm
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Originally posted by Raa Tor'h
Personally, I hink it's easier to do it in TS5 and have it ook right, because it is in proper perspective, rather than speculating on if it's pointing right...


You wanna do a nice detailed tutorial on how to do beams in TS5? 'Cause I for one would love to know how. :D
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Reply #14 on: September 12, 2002, 05:32:09 pm
The poll won't let me vote right now, but I say left. It's got screen...SERIOUSLY! ;)
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Reply #15 on: September 12, 2002, 05:59:08 pm
I clicked Left, but then clicked both/Neither instead of the submit button, so I actually meant left, whatever... they're good :yes:
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Reply #16 on: September 12, 2002, 05:59:39 pm
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The poll won't let me vote right now, but I say left. It's got screen...SERIOUSLY! ;)


Both do...

:p

But on the left, I believe he used a small gradient on the beam's gaussian blur to clear up the beginning of the beam :p
 

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Reply #17 on: September 12, 2002, 06:20:18 pm
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Both do...

:p

But on the left, I believe he used a small gradient on the beam's gaussian blur to clear up the beginning of the beam :p
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Reply #18 on: September 12, 2002, 07:55:03 pm
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Both do...

:p

But on the left, I believe he used a small gradient on the beam's gaussian blur to clear up the beginning of the beam :p


No, actually, on the left one, it was a triangular selection guassian blurred and filled with a color, then another, slightly smaller triangular section blurred a bit less and filled with white, and finally a thin triangular section with no blur and filled with white.

On the right was a bit more complex... ;)
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Reply #19 on: September 13, 2002, 12:58:17 am
I don't like the pointiness of the origin of the left beam. They would also look better if you resized the muzzle glow to be proportional to the width of the beam.
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