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The GTVA Colossus is never explicitly given a ship type in game, so what do you think it is closest to?

Juggernaut
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Superdestroyer
17 (18.1%)
Super Capital Ship
13 (13.8%)
Destroyer
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Warship
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Offline Androgeos Exeunt

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What Ship Type is the GTVA Colossus?
Hey, all. Quite recently, there has been a small conflict on FSWiki because it is never explicitly stated in the game that the GTVA Colossus is a juggernaut, nor does it really classify as either a superdestroyer (the Colossus is twelve times the size of the Lucifer), or a destroyer (the Colossus has five times the firepower of an Orion). Super capital ship might apply, because the Colossus has the -supercap flag in its ship table (but so does the Sathanas), and Alpha 3 called it a massive warship in The Sixth Wonder (although anything of cruiser size or larger is also called a warship).

So the question is: Given that the GTVA Colossus is never explicitly given a ship type in the game, what do you think it is closest to?
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Re: What Ship Type is the GTVA Colossus?
It's definitely not a warship; we know that much.  :rolleyes:

 

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Re: What Ship Type is the GTVA Colossus?
Personally, I regard it as a juggernaut, even though 'GTJ Colossus' sounds weird to me.

However, since there is only one canonically, it is a 'flagship' and yet does not need a class designation, strictly. (Hence, 'GTVA Colossus')

 

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Re: What Ship Type is the GTVA Colossus?
It's a colossus.  :nervous:

 

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Re: What Ship Type is the GTVA Colossus?
Juggernaut.

The Hecate has **** firepower compared to a Ravana and its still a destroyer because of its size and HP.
Therefore...
Even though the Colly has less firepower than the Sath, they have the same HP, and same size therefore same class.
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Re: What Ship Type is the GTVA Colossus?
Does it have less firepower or is the firepower just not all forward like the Sath?  Off to look at the tables........
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Re: What Ship Type is the GTVA Colossus?
SATH
BFRED = 4756 sustained dps x 4
LRED = 1359 sustained dps x 1
TOTAL = 20383

COLLY
BGREEN = 776 sustained dps x 6
TERSLASH = 321 sustained dps x 7
TOTAL = 6903

(this is just pure anti-cap beam, didn't calculate all the puny turrets)

Ok that's quite a big gap, but the colly can ramp up its beams to BFGreen.
Both will do the same thing to destroyers - that is, chew them up beyond measure.
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Re: What Ship Type is the GTVA Colossus?
I would say super destroyer but that is just my opinion.

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Re: What Ship Type is the GTVA Colossus?
Wiki should just say "none stated", the only mention is the "TSoup" in FRED, and God only knows what that was meant to mean.  Its obviously larger than a destroyer or superdestroyer, and its size is similar to that of a Juggernaut.  Having said that, Juggernaut always struck me as a specific designation of the Sathanas - references to "A Shivan Juggernaut" rather than actually mentioning its actual class, perhaps it was a personal thing.
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Re: What Ship Type is the GTVA Colossus?
Terran Soup
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I recall some of its textures being called TSoupTileXX or something too...
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Offline eliex

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Re: What Ship Type is the GTVA Colossus?
I'll say juggernaut class, and in addition to the points that Droid has made, the Colossus has comparable size to the Sathanas too.

 

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Re: What Ship Type is the GTVA Colossus?
Maybe Campbell won the contract to make it. 


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Re: What Ship Type is the GTVA Colossus?
It was probably an in-joke or something, I think Soup = Sup.

 

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Re: What Ship Type is the GTVA Colossus?
Its designation is GTVA...which quite obviously stands for Galactic Terran-Vasudan Awesomesauce.  QED.

 

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Re: What Ship Type is the GTVA Colossus?
It's the Terran/Vasudan Navy's version of 'our reproductive mechanisms are bigger than your reproductive mechanisms'

 
Re: What Ship Type is the GTVA Colossus?
It's "the Colossus". It doesn't need a designation.

 
Re: What Ship Type is the GTVA Colossus?
i think it s fit more flagship than else as it's a quite unique ship type in the gtva fleet...
it would have a class when a second ship similar to the colossus would be built.
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Re: What Ship Type is the GTVA Colossus?
Looks like "Juggernaut" is winning.

If this is the designation that we'll be using in the Wiki, its non-canonicity should be made explicit in a way.
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Re: What Ship Type is the GTVA Colossus?
I personally agree with the idea that the Colossus is a flagship.

The Sath and the Collie aren't the same type of ship.  The Sath is a straightforward steamroller, and the Juggernaught term fits it well.

The Collie is more of a symbol and seems to me to be very much a one-off.
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