Author Topic: First-ever direct image of a black hole  (Read 5896 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline Bryan See

  • Has anyone really been far as decided to use even go want to do look more like?
  • 210
  • Trying to redeem, but under Tiger Parents
    • Skype
    • Steam
    • Twitter
Re: First-ever direct image of a black hole
Can this black hole really the window to some alternate universe?
Bryan See - My FreeSpace Wiki User Page (Talk, Contributions)

Full Projects:
Shattered Stars

Campaigns:
Lost in the Mist - Cyrene vs. Psamtik
FreeSpace: Reunited

Ships:
GTS Hygeia, GTT Argo, SC Raguel

Tools:
FSO TC/Game template

I've been under attack by Tiger Parents like Jennifer Pan...

 

Offline The E

  • He's Ebeneezer Goode
  • 213
  • Nothing personal, just tech support.
    • Steam
    • Twitter
Re: First-ever direct image of a black hole
No.
If I'm just aching this can't go on
I came from chasing dreams to feel alone
There must be changes, miss to feel strong
I really need lifе to touch me
--Evergrey, Where August Mourns

 

Offline DefCynodont119

  • 210
  • Ascended GTSC-Faustus Artist
    • Steam
Re: First-ever direct image of a black hole
Quote from: Peter Hess
Once all 1,000 pounds of hard drives were filled with these 5 petabytes of raw data, they were loaded onto airplanes and flown to two centralized “correlators,” located in Massachusetts and Germany.

“The fastest way to do that is not over the internet, it’s actually to put them on planes,” said Marrone. “There’s no internet that can compete with 5 petabytes of data on a plane.”

Adding to this challenge, the scientists had to wait until summer to send the hard drives from the South Pole Telescope, as the images were captured during Antarctica’s winter.

The correlators then began the job of syncing up all the data from the telescopes with each other. This means that supercomputers took all the raw observational data collected by the telescopes and used the atomic clock information to line them all up with one another, creating a seamless record of the wavefront of light from the black hole as it reached Earth.

Full article: https://www.inverse.com/article/54833-m87-black-hole-photo-data-storage-feat


This is just bad*ss cool stuff right here.
My gift from Freespace to Cities Skylines:  http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=639891299

 

Offline Bryan See

  • Has anyone really been far as decided to use even go want to do look more like?
  • 210
  • Trying to redeem, but under Tiger Parents
    • Skype
    • Steam
    • Twitter
Re: First-ever direct image of a black hole
"Imagine a mod with the size of 5 petabytes of assets, textures and models. I doubt FSO, Knossos and HLP will handle it."

So how did these 5 petabytes of data can't be handled on the Internet? I wonder these limitations of over the Internet and cloud computing in general.
Bryan See - My FreeSpace Wiki User Page (Talk, Contributions)

Full Projects:
Shattered Stars

Campaigns:
Lost in the Mist - Cyrene vs. Psamtik
FreeSpace: Reunited

Ships:
GTS Hygeia, GTT Argo, SC Raguel

Tools:
FSO TC/Game template

I've been under attack by Tiger Parents like Jennifer Pan...

 

Offline The E

  • He's Ebeneezer Goode
  • 213
  • Nothing personal, just tech support.
    • Steam
    • Twitter
Re: First-ever direct image of a black hole
So how did these 5 petabytes of data can't be handled on the Internet? I wonder these limitations of over the Internet and cloud computing in general.

If you had read the articles about this project, you'd have seen that the data for this project wasn't handled over the internet. They just transported the storage media from the observatories to the University.
If I'm just aching this can't go on
I came from chasing dreams to feel alone
There must be changes, miss to feel strong
I really need lifе to touch me
--Evergrey, Where August Mourns

 

Offline Colonol Dekker

  • HLP is my mistress
  • Moderator
  • 213
  • Aken Tigh Dekker- you've probably heard me
    • My old squad sub-domain
Re: First-ever direct image of a black hole
And there is no connection to mortal engines either.   Any mention of it will result in threadsplit and lock.
Campaigns I've added my distinctiveness to-
- Blue Planet: Battle Captains
-Battle of Neptune
-Between the Ashes 2
-Blue planet: Age of Aquarius
-FOTG?
-Inferno R1
-Ribos: The aftermath / -Retreat from Deneb
-Sol: A History
-TBP EACW teaser
-Earth Brakiri war
-TBP Fortune Hunters (I think?)
-TBP Relic
-Trancsend (Possibly?)
-Uncharted Territory
-Vassagos Dirge
-War Machine
(Others lost to the mists of time and no discernible audit trail)

Your friendly Orestes tactical controller.

Secret bomb God.
That one time I got permabanned and got to read who was being bitxhy about me :p....
GO GO DEKKER RANGERSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
President of the Scooby Doo Model Appreciation Society
The only good Zod is a dead Zod
NEWGROUNDS COMEDY GOLD, UPDATED DAILY
http://badges.steamprofile.com/profile/default/steam/76561198011784807.png

 
Re: First-ever direct image of a black hole
On a more general note, it's amazing how fast telescope technology is advancing these days; something like this was considered impossible just 10 years ago IIRC.

 

Offline DefCynodont119

  • 210
  • Ascended GTSC-Faustus Artist
    • Steam
Re: First-ever direct image of a black hole
On a more general note, it's amazing how fast telescope technology is advancing these days; something like this was considered impossible just 10 years ago IIRC.

One of the reasons I can't wait for James-Webb to be launched!

Seriously, the delays are driving me nuts. . . .
My gift from Freespace to Cities Skylines:  http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=639891299

 
Re: First-ever direct image of a black hole

There is widespread attention about the first-ever direct image of a black hole and its shadow, taken by the ground-based Event Horizon Telescope (EHT).

Now the real question becomes: What is inside the black hole?

 

Offline General Battuta

  • Poe's Law In Action
  • 214
  • i wonder when my postcount will exceed my iq
Re: First-ever direct image of a black hole
Now the real question becomes: What is inside the black hole?

Quality username/post combo

 

Offline Luis Dias

  • 211
Re: First-ever direct image of a black hole
Five petabytes of data isn't enough for Luis.  Too many holes to fill in.  (You know, besides the one being observed.)

[insert obvious obviousness about quality not being about quantity]

I mean, it's not as if the end result isn't a bitmap with less than 100kb of data, upsized on photoshopped with nearest neighbor filter or smth.

But my point was different, I won't repeat myself. Those who are bent to misunderstand me won't profit from such effort.

It's not as if we hadn't had conclusive evidence of black holes before,

We, uh, hadn't. Look it up. Previous observational evidence proved, I believe, the existence of various ultra-compact objects bounded by a sphere less than about 1.5 times the Schwarzschild radius, but this is the first time observations have been able to directly probe the event horizon.
Don't mind Luis, I can't recall the last time I've seen him be positive about anything. :)

He's on my ignore list, so if you hadn't quoted him it wouldn't even have crossed my mind in the first place ;). His point is just pedantic to the extreme, all predictions about the nature of BHs had been confirmed multiple times from multiple angles, astrophysicists have been studying supermassive black holes for a lot of decades now, no one has seriously doubted their existence for eons now.

 
Re: First-ever direct image of a black hole
He's on my ignore list, so if you hadn't quoted him it wouldn't even have crossed my mind in the first place ;).

he was telling me to ignore you, idiot
The good Christian should beware of mathematicians, and all those who make empty prophecies. The danger already exists that the mathematicians have made a covenant with the devil to darken the spirit and to confine man in the bonds of Hell.

 

Offline Colonol Dekker

  • HLP is my mistress
  • Moderator
  • 213
  • Aken Tigh Dekker- you've probably heard me
    • My old squad sub-domain
Re: First-ever direct image of a black hole
Everyone be nice.
Campaigns I've added my distinctiveness to-
- Blue Planet: Battle Captains
-Battle of Neptune
-Between the Ashes 2
-Blue planet: Age of Aquarius
-FOTG?
-Inferno R1
-Ribos: The aftermath / -Retreat from Deneb
-Sol: A History
-TBP EACW teaser
-Earth Brakiri war
-TBP Fortune Hunters (I think?)
-TBP Relic
-Trancsend (Possibly?)
-Uncharted Territory
-Vassagos Dirge
-War Machine
(Others lost to the mists of time and no discernible audit trail)

Your friendly Orestes tactical controller.

Secret bomb God.
That one time I got permabanned and got to read who was being bitxhy about me :p....
GO GO DEKKER RANGERSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
President of the Scooby Doo Model Appreciation Society
The only good Zod is a dead Zod
NEWGROUNDS COMEDY GOLD, UPDATED DAILY
http://badges.steamprofile.com/profile/default/steam/76561198011784807.png

 
Re: First-ever direct image of a black hole
but luis has me ignored so if i call him a badger-molesting cuckold guilty of a litany of financial crimes what's the actual harm...?
The good Christian should beware of mathematicians, and all those who make empty prophecies. The danger already exists that the mathematicians have made a covenant with the devil to darken the spirit and to confine man in the bonds of Hell.

 

Offline Colonol Dekker

  • HLP is my mistress
  • Moderator
  • 213
  • Aken Tigh Dekker- you've probably heard me
    • My old squad sub-domain
Re: First-ever direct image of a black hole
Good point well presented.
Campaigns I've added my distinctiveness to-
- Blue Planet: Battle Captains
-Battle of Neptune
-Between the Ashes 2
-Blue planet: Age of Aquarius
-FOTG?
-Inferno R1
-Ribos: The aftermath / -Retreat from Deneb
-Sol: A History
-TBP EACW teaser
-Earth Brakiri war
-TBP Fortune Hunters (I think?)
-TBP Relic
-Trancsend (Possibly?)
-Uncharted Territory
-Vassagos Dirge
-War Machine
(Others lost to the mists of time and no discernible audit trail)

Your friendly Orestes tactical controller.

Secret bomb God.
That one time I got permabanned and got to read who was being bitxhy about me :p....
GO GO DEKKER RANGERSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
President of the Scooby Doo Model Appreciation Society
The only good Zod is a dead Zod
NEWGROUNDS COMEDY GOLD, UPDATED DAILY
http://badges.steamprofile.com/profile/default/steam/76561198011784807.png

 

Offline General Battuta

  • Poe's Law In Action
  • 214
  • i wonder when my postcount will exceed my iq
Re: First-ever direct image of a black hole
We were doing black hole math yesterday to figure something out for a story, and discovered that very small black holes (on the order of millions or billions of tons, nothing you'd ever see up there in the sky) are actually insanely luminous, not from accretion disc or polar jet behavior but just from Hawking radiation (!). A hole in the <1 billion ton range will radiate more than one gigawatt! You'd be vaporized by its light before you could get close enough to get sucked in!

 

Offline General Battuta

  • Poe's Law In Action
  • 214
  • i wonder when my postcount will exceed my iq
Re: First-ever direct image of a black hole
Interestingly this also means that if you put in the energy to crush a given mass down to a black hole, then collect the hole's radiant energy for the rest of its lifetime, you'll actually come out ahead! Pure matter to energy conversion! It just takes ****ing forever.

 
Re: First-ever direct image of a black hole
Is it actually only a GW? It is not that much on a cosmic scale.

 

Offline Colonol Dekker

  • HLP is my mistress
  • Moderator
  • 213
  • Aken Tigh Dekker- you've probably heard me
    • My old squad sub-domain
Re: First-ever direct image of a black hole
.28 shy of time travel though ;)
Campaigns I've added my distinctiveness to-
- Blue Planet: Battle Captains
-Battle of Neptune
-Between the Ashes 2
-Blue planet: Age of Aquarius
-FOTG?
-Inferno R1
-Ribos: The aftermath / -Retreat from Deneb
-Sol: A History
-TBP EACW teaser
-Earth Brakiri war
-TBP Fortune Hunters (I think?)
-TBP Relic
-Trancsend (Possibly?)
-Uncharted Territory
-Vassagos Dirge
-War Machine
(Others lost to the mists of time and no discernible audit trail)

Your friendly Orestes tactical controller.

Secret bomb God.
That one time I got permabanned and got to read who was being bitxhy about me :p....
GO GO DEKKER RANGERSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
President of the Scooby Doo Model Appreciation Society
The only good Zod is a dead Zod
NEWGROUNDS COMEDY GOLD, UPDATED DAILY
http://badges.steamprofile.com/profile/default/steam/76561198011784807.png

 
Re: First-ever direct image of a black hole
Well, I've always said black holes were cool, but now I think I need to switch to saying black holes are shiny.

Incidentally, I've also been doing black hole math lately (using a million ton (tonne?) black hole), and now I wonder how many other around the world have been doing that following the release of Messier 87's picture. Black hole math is fun ! You can actually see spaghettification just from calculating things like the gravitational force and watch thing get wacky as you get within 5 meters of the point mass, or figure out how many centimeters away you'll need a rocket engine to pull away.