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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: adwight on January 29, 2006, 01:28:00 am
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I am the most confused guy in the world right now, seriously. I am seeing this girl right now and we had a very good and long talk about us and everything else. I asked the question, 'what do you think of me?', and she spilled her guts to me. She told me that she loved me and wanted to be with me forever. I really thought that she is the one. I told her how I felt and i really thought it was true. Yesterday she told me that this guy kissed her k? She talks to me and tells me that she is so sorry and didn't mean for it to happen and all that other bull****. I thought nothing of it, maybe something happened? He didn't know that I was going with this girl so I could live with it Then he comes and wants to hang out with her, and you think she would say no right? Wrong, she goes with him and only god knows what happens. Guys, I am confused. This sounds pathetic, but I really don't know how to handle this situation. Boy you should have seen me when she left. I completely wasted everything around me, and I thought I handled it well. I really feel like going and kicking that guys ass. But I don't know. My opinion is that girls are the most confusing things on this earth, and that I'll never figure them out. I don't know what I'm going to do. If she did anything with him, she's gone like a rock I believe. Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me.
Now, what are your thoughts on the matter?
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I advocate violence. But then I always do.
My opinion is that she's jerking you around. **** her (figuratively). Kick the guys ass on general principle, even if you're no longer pissed.
Normally I'd have better advice, but you've caught me in a very predatory mood. So - violence.
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Dude, Girls are overrated. *activates flame-retardation skin*
If she's going out with this one guy and kissing him and everything, and she comes back to you and says that she didnt mean for it to happen, and she goes out with him AGAIN, well doesn't that tell you something about her?
Seriously, one of two things needs to happen right here and now. Either Step up to the guy and "inform" him of the situation, however you see fit, wether you talk to him, or knock him out over it. I honestly have seen this happen way too many times, and all I can say is that girls like these are more trouble than they're worth. The other thing is to get rid of her - save the stress.
Ask yourself, if she says she wants to be with you yet keeps going out with this guy who kisses her and such, ask yourself if you are honestly willing to put up with this kind of wishy-washy behavior. Is it honestly worth her goofing around with other people, when you're honestly working hard to be faithful to her? If she's not going to be faithful, and go around with other guys, and NOT with YOU, where she should be in the first place, why should you put forth the energy and stress to save something that she ovbiously doesnt value.
BTW, You're in Utah? So am I. Trust me when I say that I've seen girls act like this around here. Wether you're from the north or the south, they're typically the same. Ahh.. if I were to move back to Nevada..... mm...
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I think that I am going to drop her. I'll find out after I have a nice long talk with her. Where are you at in Utah, going to college or anything?
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If this goes the way I hope it goes, this will be the funniest thing ever.....
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Good call. *Millertime*
Yah, in the south, not the deep south party college, but the other south college, and no, it's not Snow.
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Now, what are your thoughts on the matter?
I've never understood why it's the other person, and not the cheater, who gets the bad rap.
*votes move on*
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If they are still young enough to be called girls without them punching you, they are pure chaos, plain and simple.
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Back stabing, disloyal, money grubbing, manipulative, and fleeting.
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Dont ever mention the word "love" unless you have been involved (hanging out/together) with someone at least for 8 months. After that you may start thinking about love. And if your still together after a year, it might actually be love.
Those who belive in love at first sight, or just broadcast after a month of dating that the love you... Be careful with them. That usually ends up wiht nothing but heartache. Really rushing things lead you nowhere.
Another point. If you are in a relationship that you are unsure of, or slightly uncomfortable, then figure it out fast! Might be just better to go seperate ways, and try to remain friends. If you prolonge it and you are not comfortable in it, you're just making things worse.
So in other words: Never be in a relationship where either of you is unsure, or too sure about it.
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Women think with 'feelings' instead of logic. They are also self-riteous *****es who can not, under any circumstance, be wrong. The average chick has more materialistic and superficial traits than any man you will ever see. They crave money, dominance, and shoes. To hang around a female would only serve to drag you down. They aren't worth my time, and I assume not worth your time either. As an0n vouches for violence, I vouch for celebacy and true expression of the much-deserved hatred of the female creature.
Yeah, I hold a grudge. Sue me.
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Women think with 'feelings' instead of logic. They are also self-riteous *****es who can not, under any circumstance, be wrong. The average chick has more materialistic and superficial traits than any man you will ever see. They crave money, dominance, and shoes. To hang around a female would only serve to drag you down. They aren't worth my time, and I assume not worth your time either. As an0n vouches for violence, I vouch for celebacy and true expression of the much-deserved hatred of the female creature.
Yeah, I hold a grudge. Sue me.
you propably should get laid
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Don't expect a first relationship to work out.
Or the second, third, fourth, etc...
So I'm a pessimist. Sue me. :p
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The question of girls suffers from situational dependency.
That is to say - depending on the situation - they can be the best or the worst thing in the world.
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If you had posted this message about a month ago, before my girlfriend of 3 years broke up with me (ironically enough for one of my bestfriends (an0n would be proud of the ass-kicking I gave him 3 days ago) who had helped me choose an engagement ring), I would have defended girls. However, right now I'm all for just using them. In the end, when you finally commit your heart to them, they hurt you. Just use them as pleasure-toys, that's my new opinion! :hopping:
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I am the most confused guy in the world right now, seriously. I am seeing this girl right now and we had a very good and long talk about us and everything else. I asked the question, 'what do you think of me?', and she spilled her guts to me. She told me that she loved me and wanted to be with me forever. .
How old is she? She sounds young. If she's younger than 26, dont believe her if she says stuff like this. Do that, you cant be disapointed.
Ed
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Sounds like the ***** is in heat.
Steer clear of that.
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Sounds like the ***** is in heat.
Amen to that. Girls suck. You love them and they hert you. They, as said, can be the best and worst thing for you. Tho im heading into a relationship with one that i probably shouldent do.. meh il try for it. Well shes likeing this other guy more then you. Leave her. Get out while u have ur emotions intact.
KICK HIS ASS --I VOTE VIOLENCE!
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My motto is..actions speak louder than words.
My girlfriend says she cares about me, ok, fair enough, I guess I kinda believed it. But when things like her ex (who's known her since they were like...3) getting cussed out by her because he badmouthed me behind my back occur, you start to trust.
Seems like she has the words, but not the actions. The actions can exist without the words, but the other way around doesn't work.
EDIT: I've also been in this EXACT situation before too. Get the hell out. I got out...had a chance to start liking my current girlfriend, who likes me exclusively.
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Women think with 'feelings' instead of logic. They are also self-riteous *****es who can not, under any circumstance, be wrong. The average chick has more materialistic and superficial traits than any man you will ever see. They crave money, dominance, and shoes. To hang around a female would only serve to drag you down. They aren't worth my time, and I assume not worth your time either. As an0n vouches for violence, I vouch for celebacy and true expression of the much-deserved hatred of the female creature.
Yeah, I hold a grudge. Sue me.
You know, i never really understood women. If you've just met a girl, the more you are mean to them, the more you make fun of them, the more they come to you. If, on the other hand, you go the other route and compliment them anything but indirectly, watch them run. They are, as a lot, extremely selfconscious and believe in wishy-washy things like astrology and palm reading. But don't think that men are any better... we are just as bad as women, if not worse, except in different areas.
Your friend sounds like she is confused. She likes you, and enjoys the time she spends with you, but this new guy that she is seeing is probably loads of fun to be around and she doesnt want to give that up. *Shrug* Either leave her, or forbid her from ever seeing that guy again (but be prepared to leave if she ignores you). Then again, what would i know... in these matters, i am a fool.
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Not really worth the trouble if you ask me...
Been there, believed, learned my lesson....
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If she's confused, working through her troubles, whatever...then don't let it be your problem.
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I've been in a grand total of 1.5 relationships. One actual girlfriend, with one who was just leading me on and guy-crazy. However, as soon as my girlfriend called me over the phone saying specifically: "Rot in hell, asshole," I think I really gave up.
So, yeah, kick his ass. Then have a talk with her afterwards. If she seriously doesn't see you kicking his ass as a testimony to the fact that you really want her above anyone, leave her. I can't really see any better testimony than a swift, jealousy-pumped ass-kicking.
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well guys i broke up with her yesterday and things are so much better. i already have another girl that im working on and ill let you guys know how that goes, and i think this one will go better.
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well guys i broke up with her yesterday and things are so much better. i already have another girl that im working on and ill let you guys know how that goes, and i think this one will go better.
:yes:
Addendum:
Females aren't complex. Simple in exactly the same way as males, just in a different way. Once you get enough experience and are able to grasp the concept, things should come easy.
Practice makes perfect. In the end? Heh. It's worth it if you know what you're doing.
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Eh. Never had much luck with girls. Never was really interested in dating either. It was kind of bred into me over time during 7th to 12th grade. Think about it. You think the average junior or senior high girl would date someone in special ed?
There was one I knew about 3 years back, but she was more ****ed up than I am socially, and never got herself together. Less than a year ago, her adopted brother got arrested, and then she ran away from home before finishing high school and said she would be heading down to D.C. that was the last time I saw her and probably never will again. Such is life.
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Im not too experienced with girls, but from what I know (im almost 16, which shows how little I know) The nicer you are to them, the nicer they are to you... By nice, i dont me complement every action, none of that oh wow ur so hott suck up moves... they dont work...
Just be nice, modest, and caring, unless she prefers different...
In your case, Adweight, it sounds like shes dumping slowly.... get out before the flames get higher....
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Im not too experienced with girls, but from what I know (im almost 16, which shows how little I know) The nicer you are to them, the nicer they are to you... By nice, i dont me complement every action, none of that oh wow ur so hott suck up moves... they dont work...
Just be nice, modest, and caring, unless she prefers different...
In your case, Adweight, it sounds like shes dumping slowly.... get out before the flames get higher....
i already dumped her... and i got the whole im so sorry take me back speech. all i had to say was fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me. she shut up after that.
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Getting women is easy. It's just a combination of confidence and humor.
You can, of course, be evil and devious like me just to **** with people - but I'm very fatalistic.
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Im not too experienced with girls, but from what I know (im almost 16, which shows how little I know) The nicer you are to them, the nicer they are to you... By nice, i dont me complement every action, none of that oh wow ur so hott suck up moves... they dont work...
Just be nice, modest, and caring, unless she prefers different...
In your case, Adweight, it sounds like shes dumping slowly.... get out before the flames get higher....
i already dumped her... and i got the whole im so sorry take me back speech. all i had to say was fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me. she shut up after that.
smart move!
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Always look out for #1. Er.. Yourself. I would have to say that women would be attracted to men who are confident about themselves, over men who are confident in others before themselves. If you show that your confidence relies upon the woman you're trying to go with, she'll take advantage of you for sure. Since a lot of girls also appear to be selfish, be selfish yourself! Give and take, and if she's unwilling to give, then to hell with it.
But I have to disagree with using them for pleasure. That's just so wrong on so many levels with me, that it disgusts me. No one should do it, yet a lot of people do. Go figure.
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I'd find the guy and say that he's a bastard for moving in on your girl and you're going to make him pay for trying to take her from you....
...by letting him keep her. :D
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Girls.
Possible options: Attractive, available, mentally stable
Pick two.
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I'll take the first two and an ice-axe.
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Girls.
Possible options: Attractive, available, mentally stable
Pick two.
Bash.org FTW
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hey, good call adwight. i applaud you. she sounds like a real ***** at heart. better luck next time, but seriously, dun go into 'ooh i love you thing', and dun believe anyone who tells you that unless you have like a year's experience with them to back it up.
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Love can be quicker then that...I learned that the hard way. I had the exact same "You haven't known her long enough, don't say that," attitude. So I didn't say it, and the universe went "Hahaha, screw you!", she left, and I ended up with six months of depression.
Whoops.
This particular problem has never happened to me, however. This probably has something to do with my personality preferences (quiet, gentle...unfortunately a dying species), and probably something to do with the fact that I make it clear where I stand on the subject going in.
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First sign of a useless relationship right there N, the need for the "I love you" and the timing for it (especially in the early stages). If you can't tell instinctively by observing actions and opinions on the context, you probably aren't ready for the whole thing in the first place. And that ties into what icespeed said: "year's experience" aka "frame of ****ing reference" is pretty much a requirement for anything that isn't a dice shoot or short of insane.
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Six months of time knowing her isn't long enough for you? Actually I knew her for longer, more then two years, but for only six months did I know her by name; the rest of the time it was simply that I saw her around often. If that's not enough for you, too damn bad. Things don't happen when you're ready, they happen when they're ready. Very few of us are blessed with the ability to make reality adapt to us. We have to adapt to reality.
It would probably have been doomed in the long run, I grant that. I stacked the odds against myself by ending up with someone who had some emotional issues and needed a lot of reassurance. Odds are good I would have managed a Massive ScrewupTM at some later point if I hadn't then. But maybe not. Or maybe I would have had the opportunity or the brains to do effective damage control when I did finally make a Massive ScrewupTM. As it was, I didn't. (I probably did have the opportunity...but not the intelligence.)
A lesson learned, then. Pick up, move on, once you're able.
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Girls.
Possible options: Attractive, available, mentally stable
Pick two.
this is the most true thing i have ever read on this board, ever
last time was the first one and the last one
oh boy
now im lookin for a new one
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"The female of the species is without a doubt utterly incapable of honesty, integrity, or fidelity" - Thufir Hawat
"To draw a man I simply picture a woman and remove reason and accountability." - As Good As It Gets
"Don't ever talk to a girl who says she just has a 'friend''" - Biz Markie
You're being played like a bass guitar, no matter what she says. Kick that to the curb.
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gosh you guys make it sound like its not fun
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I do not know if you have received any comments from any girl, but I can tell you what I think. I think she has no right to tell you one thing and then do the other, especially she 'poured' her heart out and told you how much she loved you. If I were you I will not waste my time and emotions on people like her because you will always end up being the one who get hurt.
Speaking about what girls are like, I agree that a lot of us are pretty confusing sometimes and I often wonder why many girls acted that way. Anyhow, I am proud of myself not being so complicated because I have been told enough times from people about how cool I am :)
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Women think with 'feelings' instead of logic. They are also self-riteous *****es who can not, under any circumstance, be wrong. The average chick has more materialistic and superficial traits than any man you will ever see. They crave money, dominance, and shoes. To hang around a female would only serve to drag you down. They aren't worth my time, and I assume not worth your time either. As an0n vouches for violence, I vouch for celebacy and true expression of the much-deserved hatred of the female creature.
Yeah, I hold a grudge. Sue me.
I guess you're an unlucky dude with girls. I know it's hard to find a good girl but that doesn't mean that good girls don't exist.
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Finding good girls is easy. Any monkey can sniff out bad character traits in other people - but when a guy sees a pretty face, he adopts the Avalanche Principle.
All those little pebbles of stupidity and evil are easy enough to shrug off as they trickle onto you from above, but eventually you'll be left suffocating under a pile of rocks.
Besides, good girls are no fun. If you don't end the relationship tied to a bed having candle-wax dripped onto your genitals, screaming in pain and begging for your life while she cries and cackles insanely about how you weren't "just ordering a pizza" and that she "saw you talking to that girl", then what's the point?
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When I said good girls, I meant easy going girls. I don't think it's that easy to hook up with a easy going girl and yet normal. On top of that, who says good girls can't be fun? Sometimes people could be so wrong about that fact :)
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Not me. I have a gift for seeing the inner-evil in people.
Takes the fun out of a lot of things. So I make up for it by nurturing and manipulating it to comedic effect.
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Girls.
Possible options: Attractive, available, mentally stable
Pick two.
Woah, freaky. Years ago I made up a little personal law I called "The Three UNs": Any woman you meet will be either unattractive, uninterested, or unavailable.
And then the Three UNs Corollary: Any woman who is attractive, interested, and available... you will meet approximately one week before one or both of you has to permanently leave the area.
"To draw a man I simply picture a woman and remove reason and accountability." - As Good As It Gets
Umm, no. The actual quote is, "I think of a man, and I take away reason and accountability".
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"To draw a man I simply picture a woman and remove reason and accountability." - As Good As It Gets
Zylon already corrected it, but he didn't put it into context with the question which is rather important.
The scene was about a woman asking Jack's character about his writing and it went like this:
"How do you write women so well?"
"I think of a man. Then I take away reason and accountability."
Which is very very true as far as I'm concerned when it is applied to a majority of the general population.
When I said good girls, I meant easy going girls. I don't think it's that easy to hook up with a easy going girl and yet normal. On top of that, who says good girls can't be fun? Sometimes people could be so wrong about that fact :)
Quality is hard to find, which is exactly why there aren't that many "good girls" around. This is a principle that also moves with the times and periods of life in general as far as I can tell anyway.
That aside, all the candle wax on my genitals doesn't change the fact that after the session I still have to live with myself and my choices. Just not worth it when it comes down to it. As far as seeing the evil in people goes, that's the easy part. The hard part is seeing and judging the good in them. And finding someone with the latter without the former who is balanced, is... **** hard.
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Funny what I learned today. The guy that she cheated with, pretty much wants nothing to do with her anymore. So she's pretty much screwed herself, with me and then with him, and she's trying to crawl back and I have to keep blowing her off. It's kind of funny what happened, maybe she'll learn her lesson.
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I advocate the Bitter Man's Revenge.
Basically fake a load of emotions and get her to sexual degrade herself for your entertainment.
And take pictures. And post them on NW.
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Agreed, but don't cave. Don't start feeling sorry for her and eventually take her back. She's a head-case.
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Best to ignore and move on.
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Simple fact, if she planned to be loyal, whe would have been so from the start. I'm sure you saw other women who you thought 'Well... hello' whilst you were seeing her, but resisted the urge out of respect. If she cannot treat you with that same respect, which she's already proved, then move on and forget it. Speaking from experience, forgiveness in these circumstances is just a free ticket for another spin on the roundabout.
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And roundabouts are a barrel of ****ing laughs till you fall off again.
Just be thankful someone is willing to let you put your penis inside them and keep her as a spare till you find someone better.
Join the ****ing Dark Side!
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You know that the people who let you put your penis inside them can also give you a nice variety of diseases as a complementary gift as well - maybe not in this context, but it's something to be mindful of.
Especially of the worst gift of all (if it wasn't your intention).
Babies.
You don't need diseases to make your life hell. Just nature is good enough.
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You don't need diseases to make your life hell. Just nature is good enough.
:lol:
Still, very true.
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An0n eats babies, though, so he kills two birds with one stone.
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She wouldn't let him. She'd just want his money.
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I like babies. Babies like me.
They're about the only things I'm actually nice to.
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I like babies. Babies like me.
They're about the only things I'm actually nice to.
are they the only things that are nice to you too
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I like babies. Babies like me.
They're about the only things I'm actually nice to.
Is that so you can harvest and cook them when they're toddlers?
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Well, he needs to get DNA from somewhere, how else is he going to create a genetic superwarrior and then clone it repeatedly?
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Simple fact, if she planned to be loyal, whe would have been so from the start. I'm sure you saw other women who you thought 'Well... hello' whilst you were seeing her, but resisted the urge out of respect. If she cannot treat you with that same respect, which she's already proved, then move on and forget it. Speaking from experience, forgiveness in these circumstances is just a free ticket for another spin on the roundabout.
thats exactly how i feel about it. she's done, i aint even thinking about going back. im working it pretty good with the new lady now, we'll see what goes down.
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Heh, I'd had the same problem right now, a friend of my, that i'm trying to get into a relationship with her, but she back stab me for the sec time....while only she hangs out with me and she sleeps with other guys..and that really pisses me off. Well for now i'm gonna wait (now you guys think that may not be the wises thing to do) until she figures out what she done and hopefully she'll come back to me.
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I hate to burst your bubble, but that probably won't happen. I bet that she doesnt really see you in a 'sexual' way.
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Well, he needs to get DNA from somewhere, how else is he going to create a genetic superwarrior and then clone it repeatedly?
I thought he was harvesting body parts for that?
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Depth Charge, step back for a moment and take a look at what you're chasing: A girl that will dump you as easily as the last guy.
I hate to break it to you but the harder you try the less interested she'll become. You're just another guy that'll worship her and let her get away with whatever she wants.
adwight, I applaud your handling of your situation. You really did the best thing you could though I'd hold off on hitting the guy, it'll just let her know that you though her important enough to hit someone else over. The worst thing you can do to her is to blow her off like she means nothing at all to you.
Women like her want attention, that'll really hit her where it hurts.
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Depth Charge, step back for a moment and take a look at what you're chasing: A girl that will dump you as easily as the last guy.
I hate to break it to you but the harder you try the less interested she'll become. You're just another guy that'll worship her and let her get away with whatever she wants.
adwight, I applaud your handling of your situation. You really did the best thing you could though I'd hold off on hitting the guy, it'll just let her know that you though her important enough to hit someone else over. The worst thing you can do to her is to blow her off like she means nothing at all to you.
Women like her want attention, that'll really hit her where it hurts.
I still talk to her and stuff like that, I try to be her friend, but she is trying to crawl back and I just have to drop it. I'm not the kind of person to completely turn my back on her, I'm just keeping the love interest down.
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Bloody women...haven't had much luck. Seems to be a trend around here. Something about us smart ones eh? You'd think I was socially inept or incapable with the luck that I've had...but I don't think I'm there. I get just as drunk as everyone else does at the parties...so....WTF?
Ahh I don't understand...I try and its depressing so I try not to and thats depressing so girls are in general depressing. Or so it seems...
adwight: Your particular case is fairly clear cut. Some girls are like the one you know...and if you're interested in stable, potentially long term, or at least pleasant in the slightest you'll avoid this one. But if you're into the "love for the moment" sort of thing like so many are then hey...go for it or whatever but don't invest emotionally. Me I can' t do that...too slow to switch gears....so its not my scene.
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i got a cool girl coming by friday for galactica night and we'll see how things go for that
if not, then i guess i keep looking here
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You met a girl through Battlestar Galactica?
I'm just going to step outside and see if money is growing on trees.
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Don't be sarcastic.
She's probably fat.
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I didn't mean to imply that I didn't believe it; only that it was a miraculous occurrence.
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Not if she's fat.
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Indeed.
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C'z y' just know she's gonna be.
Well, either fat or so horrifically beautiful it just doesn't seem fair. In which case she's probably only interested in his cable subscription.
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C'z y' just know she's gonna be.
Well, either fat or so horrifically beautiful it just doesn't seem fair. In which case she's probably only interested in his cable subscription.
anon, i'm going to kindly ask you to stfu, she is actually not fat nor is she ugly, i know her, she's an old friend from high school, quite attractive. and there are more female galactica fans than you might think, they just hide.
honestly i think ive had enough bad luck over the past several months (or past life, depending on what kind of scope, 5 girlfriends, and not one that cared about me a shred) to justify something good happenning
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I love Sci-fi and absolutely like Battlestar Galactica. I think a lot of smart geeks are likeable, and many women just don't know what they are missing ;)
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Suggested Reading:
"Should We Stay Together."
Dr. Jefry Larson.
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Suggested listening.
Smack my ***** up - Prodigy.
:p
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C'z y' just know she's gonna be.
Well, either fat or so horrifically beautiful it just doesn't seem fair. In which case she's probably only interested in his cable subscription.
anon, i'm going to kindly ask you to stfu, she is actually not fat nor is she ugly, i know her, she's an old friend from high school, quite attractive. and there are more female galactica fans than you might think, they just hide.
honestly i think ive had enough bad luck over the past several months (or past life, depending on what kind of scope, 5 girlfriends, and not one that cared about me a shred) to justify something good happenning
Probably better to just ignore an0n in these circumstances...just a thought.
I wish you good luck with restoring your luck. Me...luck departed a long time ago. Life just keeps kicking me in the ass. Probably my own fault somehow.
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I know a good-looking, female Galactica fan.
And girls are good. And not all that hard to get with really.
*has a date for Saturday night*