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Title: Bloody Britain
Post by: Grug on March 11, 2006, 02:06:06 am
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,10117,18425668-421,00.html

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TOURISM Minister Fran Bailey heads to Britain today to seek a reversal of the ban on Australia's latest advertising campaign.
The $80 million campaign features the theme: "So where the bloody hell are you?"

Britain's Broadcast Advertising Clearance Centre has told Tourism Australia to edit out the word "bloody", but Ms Bailey is standing by the campaign.

I find that bloody amusing. :lol:

Though:
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While the campaign has been banned from commercial television, it will run in cinemas, newspapers and on the internet.

I'm curious to see what the locals have to say about that. ;)

Edit: Rofl at this mock ad (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1599600239860651728&q=where+the+bloody+hell+are+you%3F+tourism+ad) internet folk made. :lol:
Title: Re: Bloody Britain
Post by: Taristin on March 11, 2006, 02:20:36 am
That mock ad is the same voice as the "the end of the world" video.
Title: Re: Bloody Britain
Post by: Blue Lion on March 11, 2006, 02:44:51 am
Ew they have spiders, nevermind.
Title: Re: Bloody Britain
Post by: Flipside on March 11, 2006, 06:44:40 am
Bloody Bloody Bloody!!!

For God's sake, Micheal Caine made the word 'Bloody' famous in the Italian Job, if anyone doesn't like it, they can **** Off as far as I'm concerned ;)
Title: Re: Bloody Britain
Post by: aldo_14 on March 11, 2006, 06:57:59 am
Bloody 'ell.
Title: Re: Bloody Britain
Post by: Grug on March 11, 2006, 07:05:20 am
:lol:
Title: Re: Bloody Britain
Post by: Nuclear1 on March 11, 2006, 11:40:09 am
Proof that Australia is indeed awesome. Or, dare I say, bloody awesome. :lol:
Title: Re: Bloody Britain
Post by: redsniper on March 11, 2006, 01:04:19 pm
Just how bad of a swear word is 'bloody' to you Brits? I thought it was pretty mild, on par with 'damn' and the like.
Title: Re: Bloody Britain
Post by: vyper on March 11, 2006, 01:09:08 pm
Technically it's blasphemous. So thus I don't care, but others might.
Title: Re: Bloody Britain
Post by: Flipside on March 11, 2006, 01:11:37 pm
It's barely noticeable around here, 'bloody' is about on a par with 'damn', as in 'Where are my damn keys?' is no different to 'Where are my bloody keys.'

It really is a storm in a teacup.
Title: Re: Bloody Britain
Post by: redsniper on March 11, 2006, 01:18:35 pm
So it's okay to say "Where the hell are you?" but not "Where the bloody/damn hell are you?" Why can't these people worry about real problems instead? :sigh:
Title: Re: Bloody Britain
Post by: Grug on March 11, 2006, 10:18:21 pm
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,10117,18437119-31523,00.html

We're sending one of our best "ambassador's" over to persuade the BACC in an attempt to reverse the decision, an 18 year old hotty with a smile licensed to kill. :p
Title: Re: Bloody Britain
Post by: Flipside on March 11, 2006, 11:20:26 pm
Me First! Me First!!!!!
Title: Re: Bloody Britain
Post by: Grug on March 11, 2006, 11:31:44 pm
:lol:

To be "convinced" by the Australian ambassador? ROFL!
:p
Title: Re: Bloody Britain
Post by: Nuclear1 on March 11, 2006, 11:33:40 pm
If Australia uses that kind of diplomacy, I might just have to start an international incident ;7
Title: Re: Bloody Britain
Post by: Flipside on March 11, 2006, 11:51:40 pm
:lol:

To be "convinced" by the Australian ambassador? ROFL!
:p

: makes sure Sharon isn't looking :

 ;7 :pimp:
Title: Re: Bloody Britain
Post by: Grug on March 12, 2006, 12:58:36 am
:lol:

To be "convinced" by the Australian ambassador? ROFL!
:p

: makes sure Sharon isn't looking :

 ;7 :pimp:

:lol:
Ahahaha LMAO!

:p
Title: Re: Bloody Britain
Post by: aldo_14 on March 13, 2006, 06:56:29 am
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,10117,18437119-31523,00.html

We're sending one of our best "ambassador's" over to persuade the BACC in an attempt to reverse the decision, an 18 year old hotty with a smile licensed to kill. :p

Tsch.  If she'd just went a week or so earlier she could have smoothed it all over with a nice loan to Tessa Jowells' husband.
Title: Re: Bloody Britain
Post by: Grug on March 13, 2006, 08:50:44 am
But Australia is poor. :p
Title: Re: Bloody Britain
Post by: Roanoke on March 13, 2006, 12:35:21 pm
bloody colonists.
Title: Re: Bloody Britain
Post by: Grug on March 14, 2006, 02:23:58 am
bloody colonists.

Help, help, we're being oppressed! :p
Title: Re: Bloody Britain
Post by: vyper on March 14, 2006, 08:28:45 am
Don't you have some native black people that should be saying that instead?
Title: Re: Bloody Britain
Post by: Grug on March 14, 2006, 09:10:05 am
*scoff*

LoL no.
Title: Re: Bloody Britain
Post by: vyper on March 14, 2006, 09:11:45 am
(http://www.consciencia.net/colaboradores/aborigenes.jpg)

O RLY?
Title: Re: Bloody Britain
Post by: Grug on March 14, 2006, 11:13:19 pm
They shouldn't be saying that though. :p
Not these days.
Title: Re: Bloody Britain
Post by: Mongoose on March 15, 2006, 02:35:47 am
You know what I find funny?  In this country, using "bloody" is considered more like fake profanity than anything else.  Honestly, a little kid would get in much more trouble for saying the word "damn" than "bloody" any day of the week.  I myself never realized that it's meant to be a "real" curse, something that could actually be censored; it's more of a joke word than anything else here, almost a sort of British stereotype.  And yet here we have a government actually wanting its use censored.  Then again, I also find it funny that certain shows over here mute the "God" but not the "damn" portion of "goddamn." Also, a lot of people over here would probably have a problem with an ad just saying, "Where the hell are you?"; it's not really profanity, but it does come across as somewhat crude.  Ain't cultural differences grand? :p
Title: Re: Bloody Britain
Post by: Grug on March 15, 2006, 05:55:09 am
Where is 'here' for you?
You don't have the location field filled out... >..>
Title: Re: Bloody Britain
Post by: aldo_14 on March 15, 2006, 08:40:10 am
Where is 'here' for you?
You don't have the location field filled out... >..>

US, IIRC.
Title: Re: Bloody Britain
Post by: Grug on March 15, 2006, 09:24:40 am
US, IIRC.

Ah, I see.
Well "bloody hell" is an often alternative to "holy ****" in Australia. "Bloody" isn't really used all that often except for as an adjective when other 'curse' words would seem over zealous or too rude.
I remember back in the 90's (lol sounds funny) the government used to run an ad on TV "If you drink and drive, your a bloody idiot." Which, I think in turn deteriorated the severeness of the word bloody and idiot because everyone started saying and using it.

Makes you think, if there was no censorship on TV at all, within a decade it would become very hard to shock-insult someone using conventional words. To me, they are just words. I predict the use of the word "****" to diminish eventually too, as all the kids are running around saying it now a days. Words lose their tact and shock impact after a while. I consider them extended fads.

Whether it is for the better or not I can't say. The older folk see it as offensive I think because its attached to bad connotations for them. Back in the day, if you said a curse word out loud, it would often be followed by a vigorous flogging or the cane. Parents these days are very slack compared to the older generations I believe.
Title: Re: Bloody Britain
Post by: Mongoose on March 15, 2006, 06:28:25 pm
Where is 'here' for you?
You don't have the location field filled out... >..>
Hmm...indeed I don't. :p At any rate, while I don't necessarily want curse words being thrown about all over the place, I really do think that there is some room for more openness.  Case in point: the Adult Swim block on Cartoon Network airs after 11 on a cable network, yet their own internal S&P censors some curse words.  This is especially humorous in certain episodes of Neon Genesis Evangelion, which is airing for the first time on the block right now. Without going into details, since I don't want to spoil anyone who hasn't seen it (and no one had better spoil it for me under penalty of death; I still have several episodes to go :p), several of the episodes in the latter half of the series have been very violent intense and have run fully unedited.  Unedited, that is, except for language. There's nothing quite so jarring as hearing a loud "bleep!" in the middle of something like episode 18. :p  It doesn't make any sense in the world to bleep "goddamn" or "bull****" out of something like that, and yet there's seemingly a need to do it.  The same is true for their comedy series, as well.  That's something that I'd like to see loosened up a bit.
Title: Re: Bloody Britain
Post by: Grug on March 16, 2006, 12:07:09 am
Neon Genesis is a damn fine series. :nod:
Title: Re: Bloody Britain
Post by: Blue Lion on March 16, 2006, 01:06:53 am
Nah, it was horrible  :ick:
Title: Re: Bloody Britain
Post by: Mefustae on March 16, 2006, 01:14:25 am
The series was excellent, at least, in terms of cool robot fights. The movies were also cool in that respect, but the second one was just so damn zany it made my head hurt...
Title: Re: Bloody Britain
Post by: Grug on March 16, 2006, 03:53:33 am
Yes the finale is a bit... warped. o.O
Title: Re: Bloody Britain
Post by: redsniper on March 16, 2006, 12:07:13 pm
I'm watching Evangelion for the first time as well (if you spoil anything you will go to hell) and kinda find the censor bleeps to be funny on occasion. Like when a certain someone runs out of ammo and all you hear is 'beeeeep.' Made me chuckle. Still, there are times when the bleeps get in the way, kind of ruin the mood.
Title: Re: Bloody Britain
Post by: aldo_14 on March 17, 2006, 08:40:20 pm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/4819022.stm
Title: Re: Bloody Britain
Post by: Flipside on March 17, 2006, 08:46:11 pm
LOL I'm sure it was her rational arguments and impelling rhetoric that convinced them ;)
Title: Re: Bloody Britain
Post by: Grug on March 17, 2006, 09:52:00 pm
and http://www.news.com.au/story/0,10117,18509958-2,00.html
(gah! *screams at the one on the left...*)

:lol:
Aussie ambassador's FTW! :p ROFLs!

In other news the Australian 'ambassador' has possibly been kidnapped by the British public... :p

Ahh, that's hilarious, but it was the right thing to do. :p :D

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The BACC currently lists "bloody" as its 27th ranked most offensive word, behind "crap" and just ahead of "God".

Other words on the BACC's current banned list include bastard (6th), bollocks (8th), bugger (21st), sodding (24th) and Jesus Christ (25th).

LoL behind crap? What's so offensive about crap?
I'm mostly surprised at bullocks though. :lol:
Title: Re: Bloody Britain
Post by: Mefustae on March 17, 2006, 10:52:46 pm
Hmmm... does saying 'Bull-crap' make 'Crap' more offensive?
Title: Re: Bloody Britain
Post by: karajorma on March 18, 2006, 03:37:03 am
Maybe we should try having more 18 year ambassadors. Might be able to clear up all the worlds problems by next Tuesday :D
Title: Re: Bloody Britain
Post by: aldo_14 on March 18, 2006, 08:41:42 am
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The BACC currently lists "bloody" as its 27th ranked most offensive word, behind "crap" and just ahead of "God".

Other words on the BACC's current banned list include bastard (6th), bollocks (8th), bugger (21st), sodding (24th) and Jesus Christ (25th).

LoL behind crap? What's so offensive about crap?
I'm mostly surprised at bullocks though. :lol:

Now there's a list I can make use of!  In fact, here it is (http://www.asa.org.uk/NR/rdonlyres/1EAEACA7-8322-4C86-AAC2-4261551F57FE/0/ASA_Delete_Expletives_Dec_2000.pdf).

and the top 10 (er, 28) is;
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1/ ****
2/ Mother****er (c)Samuel L. Jackson, forever
3/ ****
4/ Wanker
5/ Nigger (wait, less offensive than 'Wanker'?)
6/ Bastard
7/ Prick
8/ Bollocks
9/ Arsehole
10/ Paki (see 5)
11/ Shag (shag?!  It's a type of cormorant, you fools!)
12/ Whore
13/ Twat
14/ Piss off (:wtf:)
15/ Spastic (apparently telling people to piss off is more offensive than having a go at the disabled)
16/ Slag (-120 places for Haghill)
17/ ****
18/ Dickhead
19/ Pissed off (:wtf: x 2)
20/ Arse (pff.  A great word, and without the animal-body part ambiguity of 'ass')
21/ Bugger
22/ Balls (um......really, I'd use the wtf smily if it wasn't tired out by now)
23/ Jew (yep, you heard it here first - some people are actually offended at the name of a religion)
24/ Sodding (as in sodding wet?)
25/ Jesus Christ (see 23, I guess)
26/ Crap
27/ Bloody (yay!)
28/ God

Shockingly, the next page goes on to explain that old people are more likely to be offended by words like '****' or religious epiphets.  Well, **** me sideways and call me Dale, I'd never ever have guessed that!

Interestingly, older people are less likely to be offended by the likes of spastic or nigger.

From which we can all deduce that these types of surveys are a) pointless in 97.25% of occasions and b) effective in identifying at least 5% of moany bastards who should really learn the world has changed.

Oh, and it's bollocks, bytheway, not bullocks.

Maybe we should try having more 18 year ambassadors. Might be able to clear up all the worlds problems by next Tuesday :D

Let's send Charlotte Church* to North Korea!

Not as an ambassador or anything, of course.

*yes, I know it's not quite the right age group
Title: Re: Bloody Britain
Post by: karajorma on March 18, 2006, 09:04:39 am
Lets send Paris Hilton to the moon. Without a spacesuit. Or oxygen.
Title: Re: Bloody Britain
Post by: Zuljin on March 18, 2006, 02:23:44 pm
Lets send Paris Hilton to the moon. Without a spacesuit. Or oxygen.

I'll vote for that.

As for that list.. thats completely insane, there really isn't any point in rating words on a scale of whats most offensive anyway. Words are just that, words. They'll have different meanings to different people. But as a side note, british curse words are really the best there is  :D
Title: Re: Bloody Britain
Post by: Grug on March 18, 2006, 09:53:57 pm
LoLs.
Hehe, **** is probably one of the more offensive words here too, yet its used quite often with standard bloke talk at the pub. :p

Sure thing... Dale... :nervous:

I'll have to partially disagree there Zuljin, what other country can claim dingleberry, mug head, backwards, cud chomper, and other such splendid and original words as taunts. :p

Agreed on the Paris Hilton suggestion. ;)
Title: Re: Bloody Britain
Post by: Flipside on March 18, 2006, 10:51:00 pm
It's funny, since theres probably not one person in the entire country that doesn't use at least three words from that list per day. Except possibly Jew, I have never, in my entire life heard someone say 'Oh Jew!' or 'You know what you are, you're a complete Jew!'. I can't for the life of me figure out what it's doing in that list!
Title: Re: Bloody Britain
Post by: StratComm on March 18, 2006, 11:01:44 pm
Completeness, I guess.  What gets me is that somehow, "piss" makes the list twice.  Is it specific uses of "piss" that this organization claims to be offensive, or was the survey written by demented three-headed monkeys?  Because I'm banking on the latter.
Title: Re: Bloody Britain
Post by: Grug on March 19, 2006, 12:41:01 am
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm....

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,10117,18522931-29277,00.html

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THE face of Australia's latest tourism campaign will appear topless in a new men's magazine.

...
"We've been deluged by calls from our readers demanding we feature her on our cover," Merrill said.

Advertisement:
"Well, here she bloody well is."

I think that issue of the magazine may be quite popular... :p
Title: Re: Bloody Britain
Post by: karajorma on March 19, 2006, 12:14:21 pm
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The editor of Zoo Weekly Paul Merrill said he was thrilled to have "scooped the world" with the shots of Bingle, which were taken six months ago when she was unknown.

Bingle will appear on the front cover of the magazine and features in a shoot wearing five different bikinis.

She is topless in one shot but her breasts are not visible.


*cough*Shameless cash in*cough*
Title: Re: Bloody Britain
Post by: Polpolion on March 19, 2006, 01:18:31 pm
I remember at summer camp one year, one of the counselers was British or something like that. I had this gigantic bleeding cut, and I said " Aww man, this cut is so bloody," and he got all pissed off at me.

Also, why is 'bloody' such a bad word? Does it mean something other than 'coated with blood'? Can someone enlighten me, please?

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What gets me is that somehow, "piss" makes the list twice

There ya' go.         
Title: Re: Bloody Britain
Post by: aldo_14 on March 19, 2006, 04:33:38 pm
It's funny, since theres probably not one person in the entire country that doesn't use at least three words from that list per day. Except possibly Jew, I have never, in my entire life heard someone say 'Oh Jew!' or 'You know what you are, you're a complete Jew!'. I can't for the life of me figure out what it's doing in that list!

I, er, actually have heard someone do that at secondary school.  Not me, I hasten to add, but some wee twat who with all justice is now working as a binman.
Title: Re: Bloody Britain
Post by: redsniper on March 19, 2006, 07:47:59 pm
Yeah, calling something Jewish can be an insult at my high school. But then again, my school's mostly populated by hicks. :blah:
Title: Re: Bloody Britain
Post by: Grug on March 19, 2006, 08:01:08 pm
You could probably find CounterStrike kids saying **** like that. >..>
Title: Re: Bloody Britain
Post by: Mongoose on March 20, 2006, 07:36:05 am
I love how "bloody" is behind "crap" (so does this make Zenigata from Lupin the 3rd a profane person? :p) and just ahead of "God."  Hmm, so apparently, the word used to describe what many people consider an omnipotent benevolent being is right up there with schoolyard insults.  Makes you wonder... :p
Title: Re: Bloody Britain
Post by: Singh on March 20, 2006, 09:22:44 am
I dont know which to laugh louder at: the comments in this thread about the news articles, or the news article itself.

Always good to have a dashing good bit of humour at the brit's expense, though :p
Title: Re: Bloody Britain
Post by: aldo_14 on March 20, 2006, 04:33:49 pm
I love how "bloody" is behind "crap" (so does this make Zenigata from Lupin the 3rd a profane person? :p) and just ahead of "God."  Hmm, so apparently, the word used to describe what many people consider an omnipotent benevolent being is right up there with schoolyard insults.  Makes you wonder... :p

You have to take it in the possible context, though; some people (i.e. nutcases) find 'oh my God' or soforth to be blasphemous and thus offensive.