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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: Agent_Koopa on February 28, 2007, 08:43:39 pm
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At first, it was just the Mac being more "hip" than the PC, and the PC being a stuffy old nerd, occasionally with some computer gags. Now, the ads have taken a more aggressive turn, making John Hodgman, as PC, execute poorly-thought out plans to upstage Mac. Now PC is an idiotic jerk who tries to steal Mac's place, all the while admitting that Mac is much cooler and much more popular and much more useful than he is. In the most recent ad, PC is accompanied by a bodyguard who meets any incoming or outgoing statement with an "Allow or Cancel?" PC quickly explains that it's an annoying feature of Windows Vista that either bombards him with messages or leaves him totally unprotected. Maybe it's just me, but I find this insulting. Apple is calling my computer a jerk idiot who can be used only for business purposes, and even then doesn't work properly. Granted, these are their ads, but I can't stand them. Anyone else feel the same?
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I HATE THEM ALL!!!
Yeah... you're not the only one
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I have to admit the whole Apple vs PC thing seems to have become very elitist. If you're a PC user the trend seems to be that you're looked down upon as inferior for not having discovered the greatness that is a Mac.
Well bugger that.
I'm perfectly happy with my PC, it does what I want and doesn't crash. The whole elitist culture of the Mac is a real turn off.
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A company producing ads that imply their primary competitor is ****e?! The nerve! We should take this straight to the President of Television!! :rolleyes:
I like the ads. They're lighthearted and don't take themselves seriously, and they're a hell of a lot more entertaining that most ads nowadays. Don't like 'em? Quit your *****ing and just change the channel.
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I dont get the whole thing about Macs being seperate from PCs. PC = Personal Computer, is a Mac not an inferior PC with parts that you cant even upgrade?
They assume all "PCs" run windows, when in fact a growing number of people, even those not within the nerd community, are embracing Linux. If Apple were as trendy as they claim, they would realize this.
Thing is, they couldent sell it any other way. The only real claim they have is the lack of viruses out there for macs. But even that can be turned around, like their OS isnt even used enough for hackers to bother developing viruses for it. (IMO, the Mac OS is so frusturating, its like the whole thing is a virus in itself)
my 2 cents. :nervous:
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They were okay in the beginning but now have gone too far. There are many flaws with Apple's ads. Let's go into them:
1. Webcam installed in Macbooks - okay, PCs do too....
2. Macintosh doesn't have the annoying "Allow or Cancel" option - umm, no, they don't, but they do have just as annoying messages (i.e. when using Final Cut Express my friends and I got a "general error"....umm, how do I fix a "general error"???)
3. Macintosh has IBook - yea, it has IBook so? PCs have just as usable a program as IBook, and can create a photobook just as easy...
4. Macintosh has IBook - yea, it has IBook so? PCs have just as usable a program as IBook, and can create a photobook just as easy...
5. Macintosh has IBook - yea, it has IBook so? PCs have just as usable a program as IBook, and can create a photobook just as easy... (notice a pattern in the ads?)
6. Macintosh... gave PC .... a photoalbum - Umm, I'd rather have the C++ book that PC had....oh right, Mac can't use it.... darn...wait, who are these ads promoting?
I'm rather annoyed at the Mac ads.why doesn't Microsoft do similar ads
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I'm quite annoyed at the Mac ads as well. What got me was the whole camera thing - OMG MAC HAS PLUG IN PLAY PC NEEDS DRIVERS LOLZ!111. Um, yea, Mac? PC has had plug and play for quite awhile, you don't need to install drivers for that sort of stuff anymore. When was it first implemented? Like 1995? 97? Earlier, even?
And I don't get why Mac users are so crazy over the damn things. It's the whole brand name bit, it's like the computing version of Abercrombie. I've only known one Mac user to intelligently defend using the damn thing, and he's like a freaking genius and uses it for working on web programming and whatnot.
But the thing is, anything a Mac can do, a PC can do better. It's the whole "in" thing to carry around an all white plastic notebook that looks like a flattened pill that's really pushing the Mac.
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I have to admit the whole Apple vs PC thing seems to have become very elitist. If you're a PC user the trend seems to be that you're looked down upon as inferior for not having discovered the greatness that is a Mac.
Well bugger that.
I'm perfectly happy with my PC, it does what I want and doesn't crash. The whole elitist culture of the Mac is a real turn off.
Exactly. (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6553260189868317794&q=Why+Macs+Suck)
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Those ads are just Apple trying to be "hip", which just serves to show for all the world to see the huge chip on their shoulder. The fact that Microsoft is ignoring them effectively says "You're so insignificant, you don't even warrant our attention or the paltry effort it would take to squash you". Five percent market share? Awww, isn't that precious.
Mac can give me a call when they start making two-button mice and maximizable windows, or when their products don't require me to sell all of my possessions to pay for a piece of shiny white plastic. Oh, and when they start supporting more than 4 games.
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The only ways your PC can crash are:
1) something about your drivers/hardware compatibility is screwy (This usually doesn't happen unless you build your own computer or modify it yourself) or 2) your an idiot (i.e. installing seven antivirus programs and running them all at the same time)
Other than the "I don't know how to modify my computer" complaint, crashing is the only argument that the mac lovers I know have against windows. Everything else I haven't heard.
EDIT: Just randomly... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3plSps6DJDo)
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The only ways your PC can crash are:
1) something about your drivers/hardware compatibility is screwy (This usually doesn't happen unless you build your own computer or modify it yourself) or 2) your an idiot (i.e. installing seven antivirus programs and running them all at the same time)
...and running an unstable program, and getting electronically attacked, and getting a nasty virus, and incurring physical damage to your rig by any number means, and getting dodgy hardware or software, and not being a tech-oriented person and subsequently cocking something up, and... well, you see where i'm going with this.
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Whereas Mac you don't have to worry about those problems, because Apple controls everything that goes in your machine, and they don't let you upgrade it - if you want to get a better Mac you have to buy a whole system. It's basically like installing Linux on the PS3, like that one article said (except the Mac is probably much less powerful).
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The only ways your PC can crash are:
1) something about your drivers/hardware compatibility is screwy (This usually doesn't happen unless you build your own computer or modify it yourself) or 2) your an idiot (i.e. installing seven antivirus programs and running them all at the same time)
...and running an unstable program understandable... , and getting electronically attacked If you were smart you would have the proper protection, and getting a nasty virus same thing same deal, and incurring physical damage to your rig by any number meansthats kind of idiotic, and getting dodgy hardware or softwarethats something about hardware compatibility, and not being a tech-oriented person and subsequently cocking something up thats being an idiot(even people who aren't computer savvy know how to not kill their computer), and... well, you see where i'm going with this.
All your doing is naming the subcategories of the ones I listed ::) (bar one)
EDIT: Hmm... I seemed to have turned this thread into the very thing that it was making fun of. Not good.
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EDIT: Hmm... I seemed to have turned this thread into the very thing that it was making fun of. Not good.
Don't you ever touch my topics again! :D
I just don't understand why design ethics must take precedence over ability.
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I just don't understand why design ethics must take precedence over ability.
People are stupid. They don't know how to do stuff on a computer, so they just go for the one that looks the snazziest.
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I had a Mac once... then I threw it out because I couldn't find any use for it.
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Macs have their place. Personally, I prefer Macs in the studio because they are more or less silent, and run very cheaply compared to a PC of equivalent speed, handy when you may need to leave the computers on 24/7.
Admittedly, there are silent setups for PC, but I tend to find Macs' support of music generation in general is superior to PCs.
I suppose it's the right tool for the right job syndrome. I like my PC, it's easy to use, despite common rumour, there's very few problems with the system that haven't been a result of my own tweaking or nosying about, I'd say more crashes are caused by my video drivers than by my operating system these days, and the PC will run my games quite happily.
In a way, this is Mac biting back for the PC's slow rumble into what has traditionally been a 'Mac' market, Music, CAD etc, but it's an inevitable thing to happen, with home production on the rise, people don't want to buy a different computer to make music or graphics on, and since the PC is the most commonly available, and the most flexible from a family point of view, it gets chosen.
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well i still think this ad pretty much sums it up...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrpS9m2VF1c
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These ads aren't designed to convert PC users; they're designed to keep Mac users.
And swipe the basic PC user.
Really, Apple is digging their own grave. If their market share increases, we're suddenly going to see Macs getting viruses and malware, crashes due to misconfiguration, and a host of other issues, not the least of which being Mac users discovering they're stuck with the hardware Apple gave them.
I would actually buy a mac notebook if I had some spare cash, but I'd never give up a PC platform. It's much more versatile for an experienced computer user.
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If this is how some of you react to a company trying to sell its product, then you really need to get high or something. They're commercials, not Consumer Reports articles. Make some peace with the universe, man.
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It's all personal preference.
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They've been quite annoying since the start. Some have made me want to vomit, while others just have made me turn a little green inside.
What I'm really gonna laugh at though is the whole Cisco Systems vs. Apple over the iPhone name. I give props to Cisco for defending a product that they've had named and copyrighted. I hope Cisco wins, forcing Apple to name thier new phone something really stupid like the "iTalk". "iSpeak". "iCom". (ooh.. look out 3Com)
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What I'm really gonna laugh at though is the whole Cisco Systems vs. Apple over the iPhone name. I give props to Cisco for defending a product that they've had named and copyrighted. I hope Cisco wins, forcing Apple to name thier new phone something really stupid like the "iTalk". "iSpeak". "iCom". (ooh.. look out 3Com)
They settled (http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,44566.msg929124.html#msg929124) that a while ago.
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I only like the really old Macs from the early 90s or so. They used to have superior graphics and audio compared to equivalent DOS machines back then and also had a substantial selection of games. That certainly can't be said anymore though.
1) something about your drivers/hardware compatibility is screwy (This usually doesn't happen unless you build your own computer or modify it yourself) or 2) your an idiot (i.e. installing seven antivirus programs and running them all at the same time)
Actually, it's more likely if you don't build it yourself. :p Many premade systems from the major OEMs skimp heavily on cooling, which is probably the biggest factor in the random crashes you get on many of those machines.
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i actually find them quite amusing. considering the fact that the difference between macs and pcs theese days is practically nil. the only real thing i have against macs is i cant build one. im more a do it yourselfer and ive probibly built more computers than anyone on this board. from a software perspective ive heard nothiong but praise for osx and its probibly a step up from windows. but thin again sence almost everything is x86, operating systems are really up to personal preferance. use wha you like.
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From my personal experience, when Macs crash they go all the way and you get a screenfull of code, an annoying sound over the speakers, and no control. When a PC crashes, you get a CTD.
Now, which is easier to deal with?
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If this is how some of you react to a company trying to sell its product, then you really need to get high or something. They're commercials, not Consumer Reports articles. Make some peace with the universe, man.
Ahh, but Mac is the only company I can think of that calls me an idiot for not owning their product.
If they took the approach "we have all these fantastic selling point, here they are!" then that'd be fine. But they just have to throw the whole "by the way, you own a PC? you have, do and always will suck untill you buy one of our Macs".
Little wonder then, that I have no patience for them.
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...Or their mindless drones that say the same thing to every PC user. I swear, Mac is like a religion - every Mac user I talk to tries to convince me of how awesome their Mac is and how dumb I am for using a PC and how I should convert and yadda-yadda-yadda.
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god bless ian.
(http://www.threepanelsoul.com/comics/006.gif)
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The truth is that Mac and PC are very nearly identical in most areas; the average user could happily use one or the other without suffering either way. What turns me off, and what actually makes me anti-Mac as opposed to simply indifferent, is exactly what Thunder said: the whole elitist mentality. That, and I find Jobs personally unlikeable, so the thought to putting money in his pocket repulses me.
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The truth is that Mac and PC are very nearly identical in most areas; the average user could happily use one or the other without suffering either way. What turns me off, and what actually makes me anti-Mac as opposed to simply indifferent, is exactly what Thunder said: the whole elitist mentality. That, and I find Jobs personally unlikeable, so the thought to putting money in his pocket repulses me.
these days, a PC can do just as much as a mac, if not more, sheer versatility, variety, and overall price weighs heavily in favor of the clunky ol' PC, not to mention that one, glorious thing, CHOICE.
a Mac, barring the PC-looking G series (to a degree), have little or no upgrade paths, can be overly expensive, a nightmare to service, and when it comes to upgrade, you have to replace the whole damn thing.
Mac's look good, but in reality, that's about it.
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In my last job I got a serious crash course in Mac usage (excuse the pun) from literally nothing to having to fix font issues and networking setups on the first day. From my point of view it was a fairly horrific time but I got a lot of experience out of it.
What I discovered was that when Macs, in use primarily by graphic designers, architects, etc, run into a problem, its a SERIOUS problem. I swear to God. I know plenty of people who swear by them and I believe that there must be some point to what they're saying because alot of them are practically geniuses in their field, but despite everything I hear about Macs being more robust, I just can't see it. Maybe it's because the users know even less of what they're doing on a Mac compared to a PC but when they hit a problem nearly 50% of the time the solution was either a repair or complete reinstall of the OS which was generally Panther 10.4 at the time.
I can accept that Windows gradually (or sometimes suddenly) builds up problems and errors but in general it keeps on ticking for some time. Mac OSX just seemed to be a disaster.
Didn't know that about the lack of hardware upgradability. Most I ever had to do on em were memory upgrades or hard drive swap outs. HDs seemed to fail alot too.
Oh and even though in Ireland, the closest thing I seen to the adds is the spoof one posted earlier, I can say I didn't like it before I realised it was a joke.
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they also completely fail to mention that pcs have a massive bang for your buck factor. i can build the pc equivelant of any mac for less than half the price.
i used macs for graphics design work in highschool. i remember loosing my work every other day because of an error. if macs taught me anything it was to save, save, and save again, and again, and again, and again. thinking back, i also remember they never did come with enough memory. i routinely got not enough memory errors.
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In my last job I got a serious crash course in Mac usage (excuse the pun) from literally nothing to having to fix font issues and networking setups on the first day. From my point of view it was a fairly horrific time but I got a lot of experience out of it.
What I discovered was that when Macs, in use primarily by graphic designers, architects, etc, run into a problem, its a SERIOUS problem. I swear to God. I know plenty of people who swear by them and I believe that there must be some point to what they're saying because alot of them are practically geniuses in their field, but despite everything I hear about Macs being more robust, I just can't see it. Maybe it's because the users know even less of what they're doing on a Mac compared to a PC but when they hit a problem nearly 50% of the time the solution was either a repair or complete reinstall of the OS which was generally Panther 10.4 at the time.
I can accept that Windows gradually (or sometimes suddenly) builds up problems and errors but in general it keeps on ticking for some time. Mac OSX just seemed to be a disaster.
Didn't know that about the lack of hardware upgradability. Most I ever had to do on em were memory upgrades or hard drive swap outs. HDs seemed to fail alot too.
Oh and even though in Ireland, the closest thing I seen to the adds is the spoof one posted earlier, I can say I didn't like it before I realised it was a joke.
if you want robust, my system's it, winxp home, sp2 system, initial install was back in... 2004 i think, it's still running, and i've had no Bsod's or hard reboots from it. It's served me well for a long time, and until i get entirely new hardware, it'll stay in use for a long time.
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god bless ian.
(http://www.threepanelsoul.com/comics/006.gif)
Oh, so this is Matt + Ian's new project?
Lol @ the comic btw :D
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Getting obnoxious?
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Getting obnoxious?
The man speaks the truth.
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god bless ian.
(http://www.threepanelsoul.com/comics/006.gif)
Oh, so this is Matt + Ian's new project?
Lol @ the comic btw :D
http://www.threepanelsoul.com
pretty much.
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yeah two of Mac's biggest selling points is
a) not as many issues as PCs (more 'robust')
b) not near as many viruses.
well i remember it being proved again and again that the reason there are less viruses for Macs is NOT because they're "more secure" than a PC, but because when someone writes a virus, they generally want to affect 95% of computers in the world... not the 3% share... an article i read a while back where they did an attack on a mac osx server and windows 2003 server, and everyone who was involved was surprised (and horrified to some extent) just how 'open' the osx server was. no viruses are not the result of more secure systems. and as was mentioned by someone in this thread, the more MACs that are sold, the better chance of a good virus coming out for them. same thing goes with 'robust'. the more machines you sell, the bigger chance they'll break.
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yeah two of Mac's biggest selling points is
a) not as many issues as PCs (more 'robust')
b) not near as many viruses.
well i remember it being proved again and again that the reason there are less viruses for Macs is NOT because they're "more secure" than a PC, but because when someone writes a virus, they generally want to affect 95% of computers in the world... not the 3% share... an article i read a while back where they did an attack on a mac osx server and windows 2003 server, and everyone who was involved was surprised (and horrified to some extent) just how 'open' the osx server was. no viruses are not the result of more secure systems. and as was mentioned by someone in this thread, the more MACs that are sold, the better chance of a good virus coming out for them. same thing goes with 'robust'. the more machines you sell, the bigger chance they'll break.
"when you build a better computer, they'll build a better idiot"
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Ahh, but Mac is the only company I can think of that calls me an idiot for not owning their product.
If they took the approach "we have all these fantastic selling point, here they are!" then that'd be fine. But they just have to throw the whole "by the way, you own a PC? you have, do and always will suck untill you buy one of our Macs".
Little wonder then, that I have no patience for them.
Are you kidding? I've lost count of the number of car commercials that do the exact same thing. Making you feel like an idiot for buying someone else's product has become a standard advertising tactic, as far as I can see.
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What? All the car ads I see imply that somehow you'll go on sunset drives through scenic deserted roads, or that as soon as you step into the car, hot women will want to have sexual relations with your person and/or car.
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Getting obnoxious?
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The fact is that Mac, if they continue on their current course will continue to dominate a tiny percent of the market, that tiny percent will consider everyone else as 'sheep', the large percentage of the market will think of Mac owners as 'Elitist'.
Thing is Microsoft's advertising far surpasses Macs, why is this?
Because Mac are saying 'If you're clever, you'll buy a Mac.'
MS are saying 'If you just want to be able to use a computer, buy a PC.'
Let's face it, a good 90% of computers in the world aren't being pushed to within 10% of their full abilities most of the time. People just want to be able to switch on and go, there always seems to be some fiddling around with drivers on a Mac before you start using things like Midi ports or Firewire. In the case of Midi ports, you seem to have to set them up every time you turn on the damn computer.
Experienced users can find MS's autoconfigure routines a pain in the arse, I'll freely admit, it drives me up the wall on occasion, but for a newer user, or someone who is working to a time limit, you want to do as little set-up as possible and just dive on in. MS usually wins hands down in that department.
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Getting obnoxious?
Someone hit aldo, he's skipping.
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Getting obnox......OW!
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What? All the car ads I see imply that somehow you'll go on sunset drives through scenic deserted roads, or that as soon as you step into the car, hot women will want to have sexual relations with your person and/or car.
That's one genre of car commercial. There's also the genre where two people have different cars, and through some stilted comparison of their features, the owner of the competitor's car comes to the disappointing yet comical realization that he/she has unknowingly settled for a lesser value. It's not just cars-- you can see it all over the place.
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The worst side of macs: You can't fully play FS2 on them
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actually you can.
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Yea, for a relatively long time now, no? :p
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hot women will want to have sexual relations with your person and/or car.
Does that explain the great Tesco fuel crisis, then?
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or that as soon as you step into the car, hot women will want to have sexual relations with your person and/or car.
That commercial was surprisingly direct. >_>
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What? All the car ads I see imply that somehow you'll go on sunset drives through scenic deserted roads, or that as soon as you step into the car, hot women will want to have sexual relations with your person and/or car.
Or that you're unamerican if you don't buy their products.
Not mentioning any Chevy names at all.
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Macs once had a niche amongst the graphical community, now, they don't..
of course a lot of mac users reconcile themselves to be the 'top shelf' type, dispite most PC's being able to outperform most macs.
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Or that you're unamerican if you don't buy their products.
Not mentioning any Chevy names at all.
Ugh...if I hear that song one more time, I'm going to find John Mellencamp and force him to listen to himself for days on end.
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Or that you're unamerican if you don't buy their products.
well that's fine by me, i can be as unamerican as i'd like! :p
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Now I'll admit to recently getting one of the new Mac Books because it looks nice and does have, in its own bizzare way, right mouse clicking.
The first thing I did? Deleted the MacOS partition.
Biggest problem I had? The insistence that I needed a disk of XP with Service Pack 2 to install the OS as opposed to simply letting me use XP. Similarly the mac "boot camp" software which is so "easy to use" didn't send me the drivers so I had to download drivers from my main computer and send them over. Effectively they seemed to purposefully try to make the install as difficult as possible (let alone all of the bull**** on the website for this procedure screaming that "The PC world is dangerous... let us take all of your burdens... hallowed are the Ori...").
Now it's a fully working XP machine, and could use Vista if I ever had to. The only downside to it is the Intel video card, but at least it's honest about being crap instead of the mobile Nvidia or Radeon cards. I can play less resource intensive games such as FreeSpace, WoW, Galciv, and Sword of the Stars perfectly on it when I'm bored.
But the whole "PC v.s. Mac" thing is bull****. They *are* PCs, same hardware now. The only difference is the OS which while pretty is a piece of ****. The only reason there aren't that many Mac viruses is because... not too many users and real targets (unshaven college kids and yuppies don't count) don't use them.
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Actually the reason why virii/worms were not a big problem in Apple's history is because the CPU (IBM Power architecture) did not execute overflow from the page stack or buffer, which was the primary way virii and worms would be programmed. Now that Apple uses Intel CPUs, all bets are off. It is likely that there will be a (relative) surge of virii that affect Macintosh systems, and it will instill a much needed sobering experience.
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I do find myself almost wishing that virus creators would target Apple to make that point - that their machines are no more secure than anyone elses. I've no problem with companies making claims about their products if those claims hold water, but if the only arguement is "nobody has proven us wrong yet" - that's just not good enough.
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I do find myself almost wishing that virus creators would target Apple to make that point
Could the SCP coding team take a break for a while and work on this instead? :drevil: :P
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I think you lot should quit arguing.... you sound like a bunch of old ladies playing bingo.
Honestly, Mac and Windows are just operating systems.... you're acting like you're at war.
Yeah, I got a Mac.... I also got a Windows machine too.
I see the Pros and Cons of both, and I don't like one more than the other.
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The argument is more about Apple's and mac's attitude towards people who don't use their product, than anything else.
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Someone from one of the Linux distro development groups should get some cash together and run an ad: Linux walks in and shoots both Mac and PC, closing with the line "Got Root?".
Sorry, I'm ill today.
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I do find myself almost wishing that virus creators would target Apple to make that point...
I seem to remember them doing just that about a year ago... someone made a couple of (harmless) worms for the Mac OS, just to prove they could.
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Well my 2 cents.
My father has been a professional photographer for like 20+ years, and has 2 macs in his studio, and 3 PC's. Never on the PC's have he had any issues opening and editing his customers photos no matter the format. However on the Macs that supposed to never crash, fail, give errors, and is absolutely perfect out the box as Apple states. He had over 1500, (yes one thousand five hundred) customer photos experience file association issues, and flat out disappear in an instant from the All Perfect Mac. This has happened several times (one of the types of tech issues apple don't tell you about). So in a nutshell, my dad won't abandon PC's because of these repeated issues. So Steve Jobs take note. It's not a lot of fun when your paycheck depends on your equipment working properly, customers are screaming, and your Apple products keep coming up short on its claims.
He still had to buy retail software apps for the Macs to do his work even though apple says they have all the software you'll ever need already built in. Apple = Racket
I've used the macs, and don't get me wrong I do like them quite a bit, but besides having a flashy OS, there is not really anything I see that a Mac can do that a PC can't. I have a Mac Fanboy that works with me in the IT department that brings his Macbook in and tries to convince me to give up my PC's (i have several that are all home built) and buy a MAC on a near daily basis. The more i use his and my fathers Mac's the more I see that they don't fit my user profile. The few professional mac users out there that use it for work or projects are the minute few who really do anything substantial with their computers, where the majority of mac fanboy bandwagon users swho scream and holler PC's suck while jumping up and down like mad toddlers, are not doing much with their machines other than downloading porn, editing myspace pages (the two places alot of the viruses are coming from these days anyway), and creating youtube videos. Whoop Dee Doo! For those reasons, I'm going to go pay triple the cost for a Mac! (just kidding dudes)
All jokes and ribs aside, I just can't justify buying a proprietary un-upgradable computer product to play and mod video games and surf the net which is all i do while on the home PC's where what I have now does that just fine without having to be a slave to Steve Jobs. :pimp:
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Someone from one of the Linux distro development groups should get some cash together and run an ad: Linux walks in and shoots both Mac and PC, closing with the line "Got Root?".
Sorry, I'm ill today.
http://tv.truenuff.com/mac/gaming.php
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mac and windows: "dude shut the **** up!"
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Whenever I get into arguments about PCs and Macs here, the only argument the Mac side seems to have is "I just like it,"
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(I'm not on the mac side)
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I have to admit the whole Apple vs PC thing seems to have become very elitist. If you're a PC user the trend seems to be that you're looked down upon as inferior for not having discovered the greatness that is a Mac.
Well bugger that.
I'm perfectly happy with my PC, it does what I want and doesn't crash. The whole elitist culture of the Mac is a real turn off.
Exactly. (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6553260189868317794&q=Why+Macs+Suck)
This can only be summed up like this: ****in-A, man. Besides arent MACs inferior anyways?(MY poor brother has to work with them at his work...)
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Someone from one of the Linux distro development groups should get some cash together and run an ad: Linux walks in and shoots both Mac and PC, closing with the line "Got Root?".
Then another one would walk in with another gun. And then, another one... third... fourth... eighth...16th...32,64,128,256 and more Linux Distros, all partially incompatible with at least some part of themselves, indicated by missing hands, legs etc. replaced by clumsy and hacky-looking implants that do the job (or not), all with some kind of gun, and then they start fighting each other off, and in the end the scent of fresh blood draws Microsoft to the scene, it re-animates the perished PC by inserting a parasite into it, making it a Flood-like, cloggering zombie-like mutilated remnant of it's original self, tripping all the way spewing error messages everywhere but just refusing to die. :rolleyes:
...I think I need to re-install Windows at some point near future. It's getting unpredictably crashy again. I guess it's that time of the year (when I installed it last year)...
I also think that I need to pirate the operating system they use on the space shuttle orbiter's main computers. At least it would be stable.
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It would also do absolutely nothing useful, nor work with any of your hardware. Sounds like a fat chick.
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Or Linux at it's worst...